What decision to take here w AK NL600/FR

This is fullring, I do not play it much but always play it if I have fewer than 9 tables. I do not know sideshowbooob at all except that he plays 5/10 and sometimes 10/25. I did not have stats at the moment but if you wish I can look it up, I am guessing him to be a slightly laggy without being crazy(that being when I played him 6max). I def played this a bit clueless but even when I look back at the hand I have a problem trying to know what to do. Thanks for help already, you can help me on any street
Submitted by : Oddeye

Hand #52603668-369 at Eva (No Limit Hold'em)
Started at 26/Apr/08 23:56:53
z8eldred is at seat 0 with $587.15
barfly131 is at seat 1 with $144
oddeye is at seat 2 with $762.50
NOXUCOW is at seat 3 with $582.80
Sideshowbobbb is at seat 4 with $1329.50
cncmas is at seat 5 with $1519.60
PFLLC is at seat 6 with $1303.50
ChipLeider is at seat 7 with $629.80
HoldEmVin is at seat 8 with $768.50
d7d7d is at seat 9 with $591
The button is at seat 0
barfly131 posts the small blind of $3
oddeye posts the big blind of $6
z8eldred : -- --

Holecards
barfly131: -- --
oddeye :
NOXUCOW: -- --
Sideshowbobbb: -- --
cncmas : -- --
PFLLC: -- --
ChipLeider: -- --
HoldEmVin: -- --
d7d7d : -- --

NOXUCOW folds
Sideshowbobbb calls
cncmas folds
PFLLC folds
ChipLeider folds
HoldEmVin folds
d7d7d folds
z8eldred folds
barfly131 folds
oddeye raises to $28.50
Sideshowbobbb calls

Flop (Pot : $60)

   
oddeye bets $45
Sideshowbobbb raises to $109.50
oddeye calls

Turn (Pot : $279.00)

   
oddeye checks
Sideshowbobbb bets $195
oddeye calls

River (Pot : $669.00)

   
oddeye checks
Sideshowbobbb bets $669
oddeye folds
Sideshowbobbb is returned $669 (uncalled)

Summary
$3 is raked from a pot of $669
$.50 jackpot contribution is raked
Sideshowbobbb wins $665.50

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The fact that it's FR doesn't matter that much, because it's bvb.

Most standard line would be to 4bet flop. You can flat, but I guess his 3bet range would have to be heavily polarized to bluffs/nuts(hands better than your).

Turn and river pretty standard stuff as played.

it's not SB vs BB. villain limped utg+1.

I don't like 4betting flop or shoving turn unless your opponent is pretty bad.

Folding turn is an option, and usually fold river.

My bad, him limp calling changes things (heavily polarizes his range a to hands that beat you or bluffs).

If you feel that a turn bet is coming almost always when you call the flop you might consider folding there. Sounds ridiculously weak, I know, but a very good player opened my eyes about spots like these (he commented on my hand in a pretty similar spot).

These spots are very nasty, they're so tough to play oop.

this looks good (or fold flop) bc you have Ac. without Ac i fold turn or fold flop

but i mean think about it. people don't bluffraise this kinda flop very much anyway. maybe with a good semibluff, but against a range of good semibluffs and monsters, you don't look good at all with AK. so seriously your mind should be made up on the flop. either his range is huge and full of crappy overplayed made hands (like AT), or his range is ultra tight and full of hands that have you destroyed. start with this analysis and it becomes pretty easy - either fold the flop or plan to play a big pot.

what you do if a club hits the river?

Also it seems like he played every street except river really fast (also rather fast), so after reading your article he probably didn't have any straight on river.

Strato if river hits I think open shove? I think he would check behind almost all hands without club/weak club.

On April 27 2008 18:35 Oddeye wrote: Also it seems like he played every street except river really fast (also rather fast), so after reading your article he probably didn't have any straight on river. Strato if river hits I think open shove? I think he would check behind almost all hands without club/weak club.

i'd check a river club. if he checks behind, you didn't really miss much value. if he has an underflush, checking river is best way to get value though imo.

well actually I think placing a blocking bet will get you value from worst, I think he could call low flushes and maybe tilt and call with none? I expect him to check behind with a low flush/none quite often.

People who limp UTG then call usually don't semi-bluff raise their draws. I think you can find a fold on the flop :-P