Do you valuebet here?

On April 23 2008 14:35 Skoal wrote: the answer to your question lies in another question do you ever float that turn with a hand you're bluffing with on the river

eh, if opponent is retarded spewmonkey then does this even matter?

opp is prob retarded spewmonkey anyway. i think this is a super standard vbet, esp after seeing the other 2 hands you posted

I think check is standard but I like the bet here.

vs good opposition i think its usually bad

probably check since your never bluffing

hes a dumb hu sng player though so hes probably calling really thin so maybe vs him you should bet anyways

and dont u play like 35/26 and are ridiculously aggro? i think u can easily get away with a vbet here

Meh, very dependent on history. I really have to know I'm tilting the shit out of someone to make a value bet here.

You're gonna get check-raised a decent amount i think which is another problem.

some intresting replys in this thread.

Totally standard to valuebet here imo.

He might even look you up with A-high. I don't think it's sick at all, totally standard.

On April 23 2008 20:24 MuckingUrMom wrote: You're gonna get check-raised a decent amount i think which is another problem.

By what? who ever check raises here? Does he really expect me to even bet the river often? If he had like TT+ he would surely just go for 3barrels of value cause he'd be scared I check behind a pocket pair 7x or pocket below below 7? And lots of people even say they check back 88 or 99 here so I don't see why he would ever c/r for value here and c/r as a bluff seems dumb so???

On April 23 2008 15:26 [vital]Myth wrote: Show nested quote + On April 23 2008 14:35 Skoal wrote: the answer to your question lies in another question do you ever float that turn with a hand you're bluffing with on the river eh, if opponent is retarded spewmonkey then does this even matter? opp is prob retarded spewmonkey anyway. i think this is a super standard vbet, esp after seeing the other 2 hands you posted

Yea those hands were like 20 minutes later though so can't totally base this hand on those, but it does show that I was getting to him and knew he was gonna break and fuck up at some point

On April 23 2008 15:26 [vital]Myth wrote: Show nested quote + On April 23 2008 14:35 Skoal wrote: the answer to your question lies in another question do you ever float that turn with a hand you're bluffing with on the river eh, if opponent is retarded spewmonkey then does this even matter? opp is prob retarded spewmonkey anyway. i think this is a super standard vbet, esp after seeing the other 2 hands you posted

Judging by his stats he's not a retarded spewmonkey, he was like 20/15/2 and was almost letting me run over him for the first hour of the session.

HU I would always bet here obv, but in a ring game vs an UTG raiser, I'm not sure.... t_t

he might check raise you all in with a loose utg raise with 34s !

100% vbet. Im not sure if we should bet the worst hands in our range as a bluff (floated AK/AQ) or the 7x as a split-bluff though.

And its obv a small bet (like 1/2 pot) and we obv snap call shove.

Edit: Hmm, after some thinking about it, it really depends on our hand range here. In some cases we probably just check it down happily.

i wouldn't over think it, we almost always have the best hand so we should bet

ooooooooooh is actually a personal friend of mine. He used to be very lag, but recently tightened up his game, keeping pots small oop. I don't want to say too much about him but i'll can reasonably say that he will call you with a lot here.

results?

I bet like 323 and he folded after thinking for like 5-10 seconds. Later he said he had AK and was clearly thinking about calling

On April 23 2008 23:41 Twisted wrote: Totally standard to valuebet here imo. He might even look you up with A-high. I don't think it's sick at all, totally standard.

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