NL600 KK Preflop kinda deep with weird action

Submitted by : JonnyCosMo

POKERSTARS GAME #16902803459: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($3/$6) - 2008/04/21 - 21:49:20 (ET)
Table 'Irma' 6-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: thelou23 ($1226.35 in chips)
Seat 2: rOdey37 ($606 in chips)
Seat 3: urcatchingup ($660 in chips)
Seat 4: plghh ($609 in chips)
Seat 5: JonnyCosMo ($1476.70 in chips)
Seat 6: bfl4me ($817.05 in chips)
plghh: posts small blind $3
JonnyCosMo : posts big blind $6

Holecards
Dealt to JonnyCosMo
bfl4me: raises $18 to $24
thelou23: calls $24
rOdey37: folds
urcatchingup: folds
plghh: calls $21
JonnyCosMo : raises $64 to $88
bfl4me: raises $729.05 to $817.05 and is all-in
thelou23: raises $409.30 to $1226.35 and is all-in
plghh: folds
JonnyCosMo said, "rofl wat?"

I call and don't feel to terrible about it

learn how to fold newb

On April 22 2008 15:30 JonnyCosMo wrote: I would have squeezed 99 and snap called for value and have been very comfortable with the results.

then won't thelou be re-shoving with a much wider range than usual?

surely QQ+ and AK

this seems like a standard cosmo wahhhhh/i run bad post

just fold

no way i'd call in a million years. you only have 88$ invested. there are FAR better spots than this one.

with no history with delou how can you call? does he even notice what you guys are doing? i.e. does he 4bet when you guys do your raise-3bet dance?

I assume people are playing their own cards until they show me otherwise.

wtf

oh wowwwwwwwwwww, i suck at reading hh's

i just now noticed that lou flatted the original raise pf, i guess his re-shove does look a lot scarier now

but i can still see lou playing AK and possibly QQ this way if he thinks that you or any others left to act are going to squeeze light

double post

i think that you're ahead a lot of the time here (maybe 75%+), however i'm not sure its EV+ with hte dollars involved if the table is particularly soft in any way.

i'd probably let this go. assigning them some reasonable ranges (99+, AQ AK) you're only at best around 55% to win...

baby 3bet is really ugly, make a pot sized 3bet.. esp w/ these stacks.

On April 22 2008 16:37 nolan wrote: i'd probably let this go. assigning them some reasonable ranges (99+, AQ AK) you're only at best around 55% to win...

uhm you realize that would be a massively +EV call and folding would be a major blunder?

On April 22 2008 16:49 taqtiX wrote: baby 3bet is really ugly, make a pot sized 3bet.. esp w/ these stacks. Show nested quote + On April 22 2008 16:37 nolan wrote: i'd probably let this go. assigning them some reasonable ranges (99+, AQ AK) you're only at best around 55% to win... uhm you realize that would be a massively +EV call and folding would be a major blunder?

On April 22 2008 15:55 Day[9] wrote: just fold no way i'd call in a million years. you only have 88$ invested. there are FAR better spots than this one.

why would you want to look for better spots when you can put your money in with very decent equity against their range?

bfl4me has AK and thelou23 has AA every time

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But seriously though...I think thelou's flat and then reshove this deep would probably scare the shit out of me. Its not like hes trying to isolate the "shortstack" whos all in with JJ or something. He doesnt have to give you credit for a monster because it looks like you could be squeezing I guess, but still I think hes not showing up with QQ here too much bec he has to put bl4me on at least AK right?

But after being scared about the flat/reshove I tell myself bfl4me has AK and thelou has QQ and I'll hold for the monster pot.

extremely easy fold

would be closer with 100bb, std fold for 200bb

thelou's line is the same as a limp/reraise line, which is AA like .. 95% of the time, and deepstacked makes it a much easier decision

100bb i am never folding
this deep if thelou has a clue you can find a fold here, probably not cause KK = AA preflop =