Snap off bluff?

I've seen this villain around before, he knows how to play omaha. Multitables like me. He knows me too, knows I won't calldown light.

On the turn he is repping straight. I obv call to fill up, or snap off a bluff on river (is this bad logic?).

When he shoves river, I know he isn't doing this with a straight. Did he semibluff turn w/ flush draw, or continuing a bluff?

Submitted by : thundza

Full Tilt Poker Game #6113744652: Table Bowles (6 max) - $0.25/$0.50 - Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 20:19:22 ET - 2008/04/20
Seat 1: mindyboston ($23.80)
Seat 4: cntgetmedown ($46.20)
Seat 5: drsthundza ($55.50)
Seat 6: _JaGgE_ ($61.15)
mindyboston posts the small blind of $0.25
cntgetmedown posts the big blind of $0.50
The button is in seat #6

Holecards
Dealt to drsthundza
drsthundza has 15 seconds left to act
drsthundza raises to $1.75
_JaGgE_ calls $1.75
mindyboston calls $1.50
cntgetmedown adds $3.80
cntgetmedown folds

Flop (Pot : $5.75)

   
mindyboston checks
drsthundza bets $4.50
_JaGgE_ calls $4.50
mindyboston folds

Turn (Pot : $14.75)

   
drsthundza checks
Bprodro sits down
Bprodro adds $50
cntgetmedown adds $0.50
_JaGgE_ has 15 seconds left to act
_JaGgE_ bets $14.75
drsthundza calls $14.75

River (Pot : $44.25)

   
drsthundza checks
_JaGgE_ bets $40.15, and is all in
drsthundza has 15 seconds left to act
drsthundza has requested TIME
drsthundza

Or do I ever push river?

I dont know that pushing river is ever a good idea unless you're doing it as a bluff and have some good reason to think he'll fold. You pretty much never get called by worse.

The problem is the turn filled some possible draws too like if he had 4567 or something. I think I probably call here a decent % of the time, but I'm not that good at omaha so that might be awful.

Unless you have a really good read/note and you've seen the guy bluff like this a lot I don't see much value in a call here.

C/C on the turn seems like a big spew. Either C/F or lead out. At least then you put pressure on them and at these stakes if they throw in the raise here they usually have it. You'll figure out who the trickier players are and can adjust that line to them accordingly.

if villain doesn't bluff here then he's value betting. and i doubt villain would ever value bet anything worse than a straight here. and even that might be a stretch. ez fold on river.

this is omaha he can have both the straight hand the flush draw which isn't too unlikely. you need more information other than that he knows you won't call down light. because once you call the turn he knows that you have a hand you like.

check raise turn?

On April 21 2008 03:38 Tycho wrote: check raise turn?

I don't play PLO though but I dont know many versions of poker where it would be incorrect to be check-raising top set here... like... Lowball lol

I don't think theres much that he calls the turn with that he would want to turn into a bluff on this turn. He almost always has showdown value, and unless hes a nut who always likes to rep whatever has hit I would pitch it on the river.

all in turn..lead the betting with top set..
i wouldn t bet the whole stack if i had a flush for value ,
but the push on the river is too suspicious ..smell like a semi bluff ( 2 pairs or bottom set max)..

you flop top set you push all in , let the guys drawing

http://www.tlpokerfr.com/h/4984

I don't understand your turn call.
Did you think you were behind and wanted to see if you could boat up? If so, why call a river if it opens more hands to beat you?

Did you think you were ahead? If so, why flat and have him see another card?

c/r ai
As played I fold unless you have enough history with him that justify a call

you only have a bluffcatcher, fold river

not sure if it's justifiable to lead or check/shove the turn without a FD

agree with peachy
its very possible he has a hand like JT54 with J high clubs or something. just because hes repping both doesnt mean he cant have both

so is the turn play proper here? don't play much omaha but seems like c/r on turn or a lead might be better than c>c

turn is fine. leading folds out worse usually and checking gets him to bet some crappy hands. if he had a draw to the nuts like KK85 im c/r the turn but here your straight outs are worthless vs 45 so i think c/c is correct