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ukfan81   United States. Apr 17 2008 10:21. Posts 104

Villian is a reg. We both checked the flop so I really discount that he has a Q and decide to check raise the turn given I think I have 2 overs (I am putting him on mid pair at best here...as he is very agressive) and a gut shot. I was very suprised to even get a call. Do i bet the river for value or check and hope to induce a bet/bluff?

Submitted by : ukfan81

PokerStars Game #16776657151: Hold'em No Limit ($10/$20) - 2008/04/16 - 16:10:57 (ET)
Table 'Halaesus III' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Trop Poker ($1124.50 in chips)
Seat 2: Empire2000 ($2010 in chips)
Seat 3: ukfan81 ($3967 in chips)
Seat 4: traveller ($1055 in chips)
Seat 5: LittleZen ($400 in chips)
Seat 6: morello05 ($320 in chips)
Seat 7: Kelisitaan ($2536 in chips)
Seat 8: venkanto ($400 in chips)
Seat 9: SobraoBoY ($2664 in chips)
Empire2000: posts small blind $10
ukfan81 : posts big blind $20

Holecards
Dealt to ukfan81 AcKs
traveller: folds
LittleZen: folds
morello05: folds
Kelisitaan: raises $20 to $40
venkanto: folds
SobraoBoY: folds
Trop Poker: folds
Empire2000: calls $30
ukfan81 : raises $80 to $120
Kelisitaan: calls $80
Empire2000: folds

Flop (Pot : $280.00)

   3s5hQc
ukfan81 : checks
Kelisitaan: checks

Turn (Pot : $280.00)

   3s5hQc2s
ukfan81 : checks
Kelisitaan: bets $120
ukfan81 : raises $260 to $380
Kelisitaan: calls $260

River (Pot : $1,040.00)

   3s5hQc2sKh


uiCk   Canada. Apr 17 2008 10:32. Posts 1386

vbet obviously, 750


gimme red star -__-;

I wish one of your guys had children if I could kick them in the fucking head or stomp on their testicles so you can feel my pain because thats the pain I have waking up everyday -- Mike Tyson 

ukfan81   United States. Apr 17 2008 10:36. Posts 104

 Last edit: 17/04/2008 10:38

[vital]Myth    United States. Apr 17 2008 11:09. Posts 8941

against keli this river is a mandatory bet/call, but you have to bet like 40% pot so he'll think you're vbetting thin. if he thinks you're vbetting thin then he'll shove with JJ as a bluff

Wednesday night, Im on the list: T-Pain plus three 

[vital]Myth    United States. Apr 17 2008 11:10. Posts 8941

and anyway 3bet more preflop and bet the flop

Wednesday night, Im on the list: T-Pain plus three 

ukfan81   United States. Apr 17 2008 11:47. Posts 104

Should I just pot it preflop? ($160)


PoorUser    United States. Apr 17 2008 13:06. Posts 5269

at least 160 pf

bet flop

i hate everything about your line and i still dont even like the river spot, the only good thing is that he might give you a wider range since you look a little bit squeezy. but you lost that when you checked flop anyways

Moneys gotta go in here 

ukfan81   United States. Apr 17 2008 13:42. Posts 104

Being that Keli likes to float me about 80% of the time I thought this line might slow him down. I might add that he held Q,10o here.

 Last edit: 18/04/2008 05:56

ukfan81   United States. Apr 18 2008 08:55. Posts 104

So I need to be cbetting this flop and then check raising if floated......right?


whamm!   Philippines. Apr 19 2008 06:33. Posts 1091

i think i played you at 200nl FR or 6max two months ago and really heatering the tables with unorthodox plays i noticed. 2knl now? omg / my wrists now...

hmph!Last edit: 19/04/2008 06:34

Twisted    Netherlands. Apr 19 2008 07:52. Posts 6046


  On April 18 2008 08:55 ukfan81 wrote:
So I need to be cbetting this flop and then check raising if floated......right?



or you could double barrel against people who float a lot..............


ukfan81   United States. Apr 19 2008 09:41. Posts 104

I am not sure it was me at 200NL if it was FR, I really only played 200NL 6max. I did ocassonally play the FR but generally only if "Futilewar" was there. I could never figure out why I saw him at that level and something like 25/50 in the same week so I would sit and watch him.


Skoal   Canada. Apr 20 2008 03:55. Posts 357

you are so bad, lol

LOvEDoM: inggolr many kill plz 

TalentedTom    Canada. Apr 20 2008 08:46. Posts 8771

these lines will get paid off because they are completley random and no one will know how to react

A Handicapped parking sign does not signify that this spot is for handicapped people. It is actually in fact a warning, that the spot belongs to Chuck Norris and that you will be handicapped if you park there. 

TalentedTom    Canada. Apr 20 2008 08:48. Posts 8771

it's like fighting some random thug in the middle of day but then a rock falls out of the sky and hits him in the head, you won the fight but your in a weird spot afterwards

A Handicapped parking sign does not signify that this spot is for handicapped people. It is actually in fact a warning, that the spot belongs to Chuck Norris and that you will be handicapped if you park there. 

The72o   Poland. Apr 20 2008 09:28. Posts 4377


  On April 20 2008 08:48 TalentedTom wrote:
it's like fighting some random thug in the middle of day but then a rock falls out of the sky and hits him in the head, you won the fight but your in a weird spot afterwards


that's explains all

Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure, than to take rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy much nor suffer much, because they live in the gray twilight that knows not victory nor defeat 

blah1234   United Kingdom. Apr 20 2008 15:10. Posts 141

why are you playing 10/20?

mighty zergling 

JonnyCosMo   United States. Apr 21 2008 04:44. Posts 4060

Value bet $1040+... although I like shoving sometimes in this spot caz it's fun to see whether or not these funky multi-level thinking hero calling regulars will mind fuck themselves.

Pot! Pot! Shove! 

RaSZi   Netherlands. Apr 21 2008 05:33. Posts 2821

You take weak lines. I think with lines like this and the KK one from last hand even people like Doomer will be flinging shittards at you from lagland.

Most Pathetic MSN Handle Ever: Baalim showed AhAs and won ($2225) with a pair of Aces (GG Baal sick pot) 

TimDawg   United States. Apr 21 2008 13:43. Posts 5151


  On April 21 2008 05:33 RaSZi wrote:
You take weak lines. I think with lines like this and the KK one from last hand even people like Doomer will be flinging shittards at you from lagland.

LOOOOOL

iamalex: lol what if you were cursed by a mummy to never win showdowns. you could only play fold equity. that would suck man 

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