Banning Neilly until...

I say we should have Neilly banned from LP until he pays his debt back. Owes a lot of people money, always comes up with stupid crap like, oh, I'll have it in a week. Or the one I received was he had to bail his sister out of jail so he played highest stakes possible to see if he could get enough money to bail her.

I mean comon dude, seriously, stop making BS up, get a part time job, and pay people back, it should not take you a month.


Poll: Ban Neilly?
(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No

yes plz

if ur stupid enough to lend neilly money u deserve to lose it anyway i mean wtf did u expect would happen

I say ban anyone who lends him money and expects to get it back.
Meanwhile, hes good entertainment, so I'm gonna vote no

I didn't ask for you to criticize me Ket.

we def need to wait until chobo is unbanned first imo

why is chobo banned?

I think he should be paying the debts back and banning isn't a bad idea, but at the same time if you were stupid enough to give him money you kinda deserve to lose it. But right now the punishment is lopsided - the people who were stupid lost their money, but neilly gets to be a scumbag and lose nothing, so banning would be nice imo. Then he should only pay back half before he gets unbanned so that everyone still gets punished for their stupidity.

keep chobo banned

oh please dont ban neilly

On April 15 2008 19:35 Trey wrote: why is chobo banned?

http://www.liquidpoker.net/poker-forum/450909/Joke_or_stupididity___.html

I don't know neilly. I think it's reasonable to ban someone who has used the site to solicit for money which is unlikely to get paid back. That is like scamming.

Yeah ban him, hopefully do him some good....

and I didn't read the chobo thread before this thx subaru

I don't see how banning him will increase your chances of getting your money back.

he should have been banned a long time ago. its pathetic that he isnt banned yet. anyone else who doesnt payback loans is banned, how because some of the mods seem to find it entertaining he doesnt get banned. good moral standard.

On April 15 2008 20:02 Python817 wrote: I don't see how banning him will increase your chances of getting your money back.

theyre not getting their money anyways, so ban his pathetic ass. if they were getting their money back, he wouldve paid them idk maybe 4 times ago before he went broke.

On April 15 2008 19:46 nolan wrote: keep chobo banned

we cant keep neilly banned. who is going to entertain us with his antics?

Ban Subaru. He's not real anyway - it's all Matrix.

I vote for YES.

On April 15 2008 20:14 Kapol wrote: Ban Subaru. He's not real anyway - it's all Matrix. I vote for YES.

wat

Yes, I want Neilly to be banned.

On April 15 2008 19:29 gawdawaful wrote: I say ban anyone who lends him money and expects to get it back. Meanwhile, hes good entertainment, so I'm gonna vote no

win.

On April 15 2008 19:46 nolan wrote: keep chobo banned

QFT.

On April 15 2008 20:13 ahk88 wrote: we cant keep neilly banned. who is going to entertain us with his antics?

how does being banned work? you cant browse forums? or your just banned from making posts.

don't care either way.

SUBARU, please provide answers to the following questions. if you lie neilly will probably out you:

1. when neilly originally solicited the loan were there any false pretences involved?, e.g did he pretend to be someone else or lie about what he intended to do with the original loan. (btw I know you've already mentioned his BS reasons for why he couldn't repay it but this is about when he first asked for it)

if you answered no to false pretences then proceed to 2. (also Oly should note this means his comparison to scamming is invalid)

2. were you aware of his publically known reputation of helpless degeneracy and going broke countless times at the time you transferred the cash?

if yes,

3. why did you decide to loan the money anyway then? e.g. he mightve promised to return a share of his profit from playing on the loan money.

4. what were the exact formally agreed terms of your original loan? provide chat log if possible


if youre seriously asking if people think neilly should be banned you should provide at least this info first.

and on a sidenote im pretty sure being "banned" from a forum website is neither very worthy of being considered any sort of punishment for anything nor something thats going to make neilly pay back loans if he otherwise wasn't going to.

On April 15 2008 20:53 Ket wrote: and on a sidenote im pretty sure being "banned" from a forum website is neither very worthy of being considered any sort of punishment for anything nor something thats going to make neilly pay back loans if he otherwise wasn't going to.

Are you kidding? People like Neilly and beachgirl feel horrible when they get banned from places like LP, TL, blah blah. I doubt it would make him pay the money back but it's about the only punishment the community can throw on him, and it seems like a good idea to do something to leeches who never repay loans.

The thing is... if you are staking somebody, there is a risk that tha player is going broke... otherwise its just magically making money with no risk.

If you stake a player and busts you loose your money as simple as that, if neilly cheated somebody in a deal (scamming) i will ban him.

Neilly stated multiple times that he was a millionaire, so I wouldn't worry guys, you'll get it all back

his weekly episode of "50HU til busto or balla" is worth watching. If it were to air on TV it'd get high ratings

lol

just ban the people who lent him money

ban Jesus

btw, i put yes cuz this site is flooded with tards

I'm willing to invest a few buy ins to travel over to his house, NEONE WITH ME ?

On April 15 2008 22:54 Fayth wrote: I'm willing to invest a few buy ins to travel over to his house, NEONE WITH ME ?

Last I spoke with him he was living with a buddy (owed him money too) because he got kicked from his apartment. This was like, 2 months ago.

On April 15 2008 21:16 Baal wrote: The thing is... if you are staking somebody, there is a risk that tha player is going broke... otherwise its just magically making money with no risk. If you stake a player and busts you loose your money as simple as that, if neilly cheated somebody in a deal (scamming) i will ban him.

What if the stake is given under strict circumstances (only play with certain bi rule, etc.)
Would it be considered a scam if Neilly loses it all playing too high and doesn't pay back?

On April 15 2008 22:54 Fayth wrote: I'm willing to invest a few buy ins to travel over to his house, NEONE WITH ME ?

i dont think ur the kind of person who people would ship to collect money

wheres hovz?

On April 15 2008 19:35 Trey wrote: why is chobo banned?

I think it has something to do with him being a twat.

On April 15 2008 23:23 mikeymoo wrote: Show nested quote + On April 15 2008 21:16 Baal wrote: The thing is... if you are staking somebody, there is a risk that tha player is going broke... otherwise its just magically making money with no risk. If you stake a player and busts you loose your money as simple as that, if neilly cheated somebody in a deal (scamming) i will ban him. What if the stake is given under strict circumstances (only play with certain bi rule, etc.) Would it be considered a scam if Neilly loses it all playing too high and doesn't pay back?

Its Neilly, strict circumstances do not apply.
But if its someone else, then I dont know

hes probably less likely to pay back if you isolate him from the community

On April 15 2008 23:23 mikeymoo wrote: Show nested quote + On April 15 2008 21:16 Baal wrote: The thing is... if you are staking somebody, there is a risk that tha player is going broke... otherwise its just magically making money with no risk. If you stake a player and busts you loose your money as simple as that, if neilly cheated somebody in a deal (scamming) i will ban him. What if the stake is given under strict circumstances (only play with certain bi rule, etc.) Would it be considered a scam if Neilly loses it all playing too high and doesn't pay back?

If the conditions said that he was only allowed to play certain limits with a specified roll and that if he broke those rules he would be held responsible for paying back the full amount... then yes he should have to pay the money back and it should be considered a scam if he doesn't?

Regardless of who and what he is when you make the agreement you obviously run this risk when you loan/stake anyone, just because it's neilly doesn't mean you aren't entitled to getting your money back in for example the aforementioned situation.

lol at staking someone over the interweb...family and friends only lol and even then not for that much....maybe syntax since he's like my personal bank at times, but thats about it lol

why the fuck would you EVER want to ban a source of entertainment.

and whoever loans him money is fucking retarded: you're not helping him out of his situation you're making it worse.

and i LOL at the people that actually expect it back. wtffff you play poker that's based on logic and shit and yet you can't even piece together the fact that staking a retarded degen = -ev.

or didn't you know?

I voted yes, he is only funny the first 2-3 times after that he just gets annoying.

On April 16 2008 00:07 Baal wrote: Show nested quote + On April 15 2008 22:54 Fayth wrote: I'm willing to invest a few buy ins to travel over to his house, NEONE WITH ME ? i dont think ur the kind of person who people would ship to collect money wheres hovz?

i loled

On April 16 2008 03:10 YoMeR wrote: why the fuck would you EVER want to ban a source of entertainment. and whoever loans him money is fucking retarded: you're not helping him out of his situation you're making it worse.

On April 16 2008 03:10 YoMeR wrote: why the fuck would you EVER want to ban a source of entertainment.

QFT I voted no obv. Neilly for the fucking win.

On April 16 2008 01:20 Karma wrote: hes probably less likely to pay back if you isolate him from the community

Neilly for mod.

i def. voted no neilly is too entertaining to ban and ur retarded to loan him money i rly dont care if he doesnt pay ya back.. seriously why would u loan him money.

edit: wrong thread!

On April 16 2008 09:57 NerO wrote: i def. voted no neilly is too entertaining to ban and ur retarded to loan him money i rly dont care if he doesnt pay ya back.. seriously why would u loan him money.

its still funny

playin out of his br against f4zi

lol

To Ket:

The purpose of him getting ban is not for him to pay back debts, one way or another, no ones getting their money back. Also, it's going to attract unwanted attention here, scamming people with no punishment.

Why did I trust him? It was $40 I lent him, not a big deal. I just wanted to see what kind of BS he would come up with, or if he could actually pay the money back. It wasn't about me lending him and getting "profits" from him, it was to see what kind of a jackass he is.

The deal exactly was, staking for NL2, so $40 = 20 buyins. But he insisted no matter what, he was going to pay it back whether he loses.

On April 16 2008 11:16 Subaru wrote: To Ket: The purpose of him getting ban is not for him to pay back debts, one way or another, no ones getting their money back. Also, it's going to attract unwanted attention here, scamming people with no punishment. Why did I trust him? It was $40 I lent him, not a big deal. I just wanted to see what kind of BS he would come up with, or if he could actually pay the money back. It wasn't about me lending him and getting "profits" from him, it was to see what kind of a jackass he is. The deal exactly was, staking for NL2, so $40 = 20 buyins. But he insisted no matter what, he was going to pay it back whether he loses.

sounds like you knew what you were getting into

well actually giving a man $40 dollars to make you laugh your ass off is a fair price don't you think?

hell people pay way more to go to shitty concerts, pay for ugly hookers, buy diablo 2 items (that'd be me), or do other stupid shit with their money.

this isn't such a bad way to spend it imo.

Yeah this all seems a little unnecessary given that last post. You don't sound like you were too serious about the stake, but yeah uh staking Neilly with the pretense that hes going to pay you back no matter what is kinda dumb.

Ket, stake me 50k for 1kNL plz. Ill pay you back no matter what.

On April 16 2008 11:16 Subaru wrote: To Ket: The purpose of him getting ban is not for him to pay back debts, one way or another, no ones getting their money back. Also, it's going to attract unwanted attention here, scamming people with no punishment. Why did I trust him? It was $40 I lent him, not a big deal. I just wanted to see what kind of BS he would come up with, or if he could actually pay the money back. It wasn't about me lending him and getting "profits" from him, it was to see what kind of a jackass he is. The deal exactly was, staking for NL2, so $40 = 20 buyins. But he insisted no matter what, he was going to pay it back whether he loses.

lol if you actually made a ''deal'' with him that he plays certain stkaes and w/e your a retard. like if you wouldnt know that he would play 2 20$ heads ups with ur 40 bucks lol. this is why people dont want him banned; o

On April 15 2008 19:28 Ket wrote: if ur stupid enough to lend neilly money u deserve to lose it anyway i mean wtf did u expect would happen

i knew i didnt have to write this myself

On April 15 2008 22:28 FrinkX wrote: just ban the people who lent him money

lol this is also true

http://www.liquidpoker.net/h/434820

i like the bump
and wtf did 36 people really vote no?

On April 15 2008 19:28 Ket wrote: if ur stupid enough to lend neilly money u deserve to lose it anyway i mean wtf did u expect would happen

On April 29 2008 18:02 JonnyCosMo wrote: Show nested quote + On April 15 2008 19:28 Ket wrote: if ur stupid enough to lend neilly money u deserve to lose it anyway i mean wtf did u expect would happen

Its true, but imo, its just letting other people know that its OK to scam people on LP.

On April 16 2008 01:20 Karma wrote: hes probably less likely to pay back if you isolate him from the community

It was a while back, but I'll still reply.
The point of banning him is not going to get people their money back, its just, we need to set a standard for people to be here.

neilly is playing nl50 again :D

it doesnt really matter what we say, we are all stupid for thinking he should be banned and mods(baal) are always right. our opinion doesnt matter, as long as they feel its funny regardless of ppl loaning, not staking, but loaning monery and him not paying it back its useless. its just pathetic this goes unlooked because there does need to be a serious example made here.

on another note, what happened to thebeachgirl, did he get banned too?

I think she (he?) did.

He also moved to a new apartment and had to pay a lot of schmuck for it, altho nothing that a $120 stake to nl2 wouldn't cover. Plus he's only -1k in debt.

Oh wait.

On April 29 2008 18:49 shaneomac wrote: it doesnt really matter what we say, we are all stupid for thinking he should be banned and mods(baal) are always right. our opinion doesnt matter, as long as they feel its funny regardless of ppl loaning, not staking, but loaning monery and him not paying it back its useless. its just pathetic this goes unlooked because there does need to be a serious example made here.

You realize there is a shitload of other mods like PoorUser who also agreed with me so stop putting me in parenthesis, ur annoying me.

w/e im wrong.

gg me.

Absolutely ban him. He needs to seek help and we only make the problem worse by allowing him to continue poker through us. I'd rather we be part of him turning his life around than part of the problem.

http://www.liquidpoker.net/h/435147

On April 30 2008 04:19 Catul wrote: http://www.liquidpoker.net/h/435147

apparently he owes a bunch of 10nl players who deserve to be paid first

he paid me back!

On April 30 2008 06:00 Day[9] wrote: he paid me back!

wow sick

somebody owes an apology

On April 30 2008 06:00 Day[9] wrote: he paid me back!

grats dude

On April 16 2008 11:16 Subaru wrote: To Ket: It was $40 I lent him, not a big deal. I just wanted to see what kind of BS he would come up with, or if he could actually pay the money back. It wasn't about me lending him and getting "profits" from him, it was to see what kind of a jackass he is. The deal exactly was, staking for NL2, so $40 = 20 buyins. But he insisted no matter what, he was going to pay it back whether he loses.

So wait - was this a loan or a stake? First you say it was a loan, then it wasn't, then you say a stake, then a loan again. Srsly wtf?

i voted "yes", but this guy is too entertaining to ban him.

no please, its way to entertaining

i am still waiting by the window every night waiting for him to magically appear with a bag of cash saying " here man, you deserve it for trusting me, i am actually jesus testing people about their compassion!"

i think we should try to help him instead of all this hating since he paid back some people (though i dont know if he paid back everybody he owes money).

He seems an "ok" player that can improve his game but he needs some serious help with his money management...

On May 01 2008 09:16 BadGoNe wrote: i think we should try to help him instead of all this hating since he paid back some people (though i dont know if he paid back everybody he owes money). He seems an "ok" player that can improve his game but he needs some serious help with his money management...

???

well, if im not mistaken people wanted to ban him since he owed money to members of the site? but since he paid back why would u want to ban him?

1) No, he didn't pay everybody. He could've payed all his debts, sitting on 10k, but instead he decided to risk that money and gamboled it all away.
2) Even though he might not be that bad as a player, that fact that he went busto like 20 times and didn't learn makes it very probable that plain quitting is a much better option for him than working on his money management...

fair enough

he didnt pay me back

these are not amounts that matter, but that doesnt make it better

if you ban him he will never pay anyone back because he wont bother to come to this site or go out of his way to pay someone back from a site that banned him... btw how many ppl actually gave this guy money???

u lend him money naz?

yeah

not expecting it back nor do i care since its like $100 i dont even remember but we knew each other at sc