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makito Colombia. Apr 11 2008 12:19. Posts 463

I have been playing really tight as always in early mtts but I dont really think this guys even notice this shit -.-.

Well, with the heart draw I wanted to take it down here in the flop, cus I seen one of the players chasing draws so thats why I decided to bet big.

Then that dude raise me and I did not want to do, does he have str8 and flush draws or AJ often enough here to go all in? would you just flat and see a turn card? is very possible for him to have JJ an 88 here I think too but he could see me over bet the flop and think im bluffing?

Its so early in the tournament too so is it worth to take chances now?

Submitted by : makito

PokerStars Game #16649643515: Tournament #83594126, $20+$2 Hold'em No Limit - Level III (25/50) - 2008/04/11 - 12:43:19 (ET)
Table '83594126 139' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: cypress2000 (2915 in chips)
Seat 2: hillydog (2425 in chips)
Seat 3: alwyn7 (3837 in chips)
Seat 4: ultras1969 (4040 in chips)
Seat 5: Hero (3850 in chips)
Seat 6: nutnupmyslev (4566 in chips)
Seat 7: vvirtue (6010 in chips)
Seat 8: lilfaithisal (3123 in chips)
Seat 9: woodytt1982 (1770 in chips)
lilfaithisal: posts small blind 25
woodytt1982: posts big blind 50

Holecards
Dealt to Hero
cypress2000: folds
hillydog: folds
alwyn7: calls 50
ultras1969: folds
Hero : raises 100 to 150
nutnupmyslev: calls 150
vvirtue: calls 150
lilfaithisal: folds
woodytt1982: folds
alwyn7: calls 100

Flop (Pot : $675.00)

alwyn7: checks
Hero : bets 550
nutnupmyslev: folds
vvirtue: raises 750 to 1300

and Something I been thinking about, how should I block or what should I do vs continued bets. lets say I raise 99 standard 3x from middle possition and some dude with like same stack calls.. and flop comes A6T let say I check and he fires a normal bet , I could hold the best hand here often enough. what can I do? i mean most of the times if its early on blinds i see a turn card and if he fires again i fold and late I just give up on flop most of the times. if I raise , how much? related to pot size. and I mean he could fold and I take it or he shoves and I have to fold..I know this can be really read depended but in MTTS like I can really tell who the fish are that limp call a lot and the really tight players are, but I cant really put people on hands. or if someone raises and i call with 77-TT and same like and overcard on flop its normal for people to fire again even if they totally miss the flop, ir at least i do and it works like 80$ of the times peopel fold. bla Im such a fish and I want to really become better im sick of being bad help. i shouldve posted this ona blog or something instead

Last edit: 11/04/2008 12:27

Royal_Rumble Germany. Apr 11 2008 12:54. Posts 1760

are you serious? this is the fastest all-in ever.

LOL? considering your other question: C-bet yourself...
get your balls together and play aggressively. It is up to you to fire that A-high flop if you raised preflop. man, if people check to me after raising preflop i fire out with my complete range, because i know it's free lunch.

money won is twice as sweet as money earned.

makito Colombia. Apr 11 2008 13:00. Posts 463

so if he has a set is just a cooler? he had 2 pair lol which is worst J8 and my hand didnt improve(which i understand is a cooler) but i was more concern of him having a set

and you didnt undertsnad what i asked, I wanted to know how to counter a c-bet. cus i c bet msyelf u know but i wanna know how to counetr ir myself
like is it better to call and see turn and re evauluate or raise and leave enough equity to fold if shoved?

Last edit: 11/04/2008 13:15

CrownRoyal United States. Apr 11 2008 13:08. Posts 11386

beat him with your chips into the pot

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CrownRoyal United States. Apr 11 2008 13:09. Posts 11386

i wouldnt fold AJ or KJ here either

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United Kingdom. Apr 11 2008 13:13. Posts 3539

did you mean to type KK in an awesome spot?

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makito Colombia. Apr 11 2008 13:18. Posts 463

so if he has a set is a cooler ok.

how about this with this read note on matrosov aying " big nit dont play vs him"Submitted by : makito

PokerStars Game #16638552667: Tournament #84080587, $5.00+$0.50 Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2008/04/10 - 22:28:03 (ET)
Table '84080587 183' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: slipperydd (8549 in chips)
Seat 2: Hero (3223 in chips)
Seat 3: freerider182 (2820 in chips)
Seat 4: texgmbler (7785 in chips)
Seat 5: Matrosov (14020 in chips)
Seat 6: Drag0n56 (6307 in chips)
Seat 7: reellee (5011 in chips)
Seat 8: tulupja (8810 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 9: kdc2626 (1920 in chips)
tulupja: posts small blind 100
kdc2626: posts big blind 200

Holecards(Odds)
Dealt to Hero
slipperydd: folds
Hero : raises 400 to 600
freerider182: raises 2220 to 2820 and is all-in
texgmbler: calls 2820
Matrosov: raises 2220 to 5040
Drag0n56: folds
reellee: folds
tulupja: folds
kdc2626: folds
Hero : calls 2623 and is all-in
texgmbler: calls 2220

Flop(Odds) (Pot : $16,423.00)


texgmbler: bets 2745 and is all-in
Matrosov: calls 2745

Turn(Odds) (Pot : $21,913.00)



River (Pot : $21,913.00)



Showdown
texgmbler: shows (two pair, Tens and Deuces)
Matrosov: shows (two pair, Aces and Deuces)
Matrosov collected 9124 from side pot-2
Hero : shows (two pair, Kings and Deuces)
texgmbler is sitting out
Matrosov collected 1209 from side pot-1
freerider182: shows (two pair, Nines and Deuces)
Matrosov collected 11580 from main pot
specpa is connected
kdc2626 said, "wow i can not believe that"

Summary
Total pot 21913 Main pot 11580. Side pot-1 1209. Side pot-2 9124. | Rake 0
Board
Seat 1: slipperydd folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: Hero showed and lost with two pair, Kings and Deuces
Seat 3: freerider182 showed and lost with two pair, Nines and Deuces
Seat 4: texgmbler showed and lost with two pair, Tens and Deuces
Seat 5: Matrosov showed and won (21913) with two pair, Aces and Deuces
Seat 6: Drag0n56 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: reellee (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: tulupja (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: kdc2626 (big blind) folded before Flop

HeRoS)eNGagE Canada. Apr 11 2008 13:38. Posts 10896

first one is a push
i think you can find a fold for the second one but im not sur, i mean i think its really obv someone have AA but do you have to fold knowning ''if you hit'' you get like 4-5 times your chips?

nutshot United States. Apr 11 2008 20:55. Posts 4539

1st one push

2nd one push faster

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Liquid`Drone Norway. Apr 12 2008 05:15. Posts 3096

you definitely can not fold either hand

lol POKER