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lebowski   Greece. Apr 09 2008 11:49. Posts 9205

Submitted by : lebowski

POKERSTARS GAME #16599852043: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.50/$1.00) - 2008/04/09 - 09:52:37 (ET)
Table 'Menkib II' 6-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: Potige Smurf ($237.60 in chips)
Seat 2: pissa76 ($44.90 in chips)
Seat 3: Cryp2Nite ($106.45 in chips)
Seat 4: lebowskiguy ($297.45 in chips)
Seat 5: marky_s24 ($48.50 in chips)
Seat 6: leadership86 ($103.40 in chips)
Potige Smurf: posts small blind $0.50
pissa76: posts big blind $1

Holecards
Dealt to lebowskiguy TsTd
Cryp2Nite: folds
lebowskiguy : raises $3 to $4
marky_s24: folds
leadership86: raises $9.50 to $13.50
Potige Smurf: folds
pissa76: folds
lebowskiguy : calls $9.50

Flop (Pot : $28.50)

   9cQhJh
lebowskiguy : checks
leadership86: checks

Turn (Pot : $28.50)

   9cQhJhJc
lebowskiguy : checks
leadership86: bets $22.50



this guy is 34/26 over 150 total AF 2.5

I really have trouble with wtf to do with such a hand.
If it's vs a nitty tag I might even pitch it preflop if I have no odds for set value because being OOP sucks

I hate folding this to a such a player but it seems spewy
if I call..
they cbet most flops and if I call a bet OOP then c/f it seems incredibly weak
thoughts??

Is 4betting 1010 pf ever an answer vs some players?

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new shit has come to light... a-and... shit! man...Last edit: 09/04/2008 11:54

TheHuHu   United States. Apr 09 2008 12:19. Posts 4271

I shove here.

I have always wanted to quote myself. - Me 

Red9   Canada. Apr 09 2008 12:28. Posts 7447

ditto, shove is sexy

I will grind you into dust. 

lebowski   Greece. Apr 09 2008 15:03. Posts 9205

some reasoning?

new shit has come to light... a-and... shit! man... 

Fraser   Canada. Apr 09 2008 16:24. Posts 4605

I dunno, check check-shove is the biggest bullshit line ever on a board like this.


Fraser   Canada. Apr 09 2008 16:25. Posts 4605

You're repping a boat, quads or air right? and most people bet out boats on this turn.


Royal_Rumble   Germany. Apr 09 2008 16:46. Posts 1760

dunno, but isn't this kind of awkward? If you call his 3bet preflop, you're asking for a difficult situation to play imo, because there will often be overcards and you don't know what to do.

I think it would be better to either fold preflop if you think he is 3betting tight range or 4 bet / call, if you think his range is wide.

money won is twice as sweet as money earned.  

GameOverNoob   Canada. Apr 20 2013 21:42. Posts 961

this post needs good insight.

@lehgoboy 

GoTuNk   Chile. Apr 21 2013 00:03. Posts 2860

c/shoving is terrible, not because its a bullshit line, but because he is never gonna fold Qx or better. I don't see how you can do anything but c/c on turn, even though river is gonna suck balls.

I think donking this flop might be good, he will call Jx/9x and you will have fairly easy decisions on most turn rivers (except this turn lol), raise Qx or better (against which you have equity anyway), and either fold air or raise/fold it (which is great, no way u can bluff catch more than 1 street anyway)

I haven't even considered this before, but against wide 3bettors OOP it might be a good idea to call the top of your range and develop a leading range.


TalentedTom    Canada. Apr 23 2013 17:22. Posts 20070

"Is 4betting 1010 pf ever an answer vs some players?"

are you suggesting you don't 4-bet TT vs aggresive buttons?

Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light not our darkness that most frightens us and as we let our own lights shine we unconsciously give other people permision to do the same 

lebowski   Greece. Apr 24 2013 09:49. Posts 9205


  On April 23 2013 16:22 TalentedTom wrote:
"Is 4betting 1010 pf ever an answer vs some players?"

are you suggesting you don't 4-bet TT vs aggresive buttons?


I used not to lol
I still don't from certain positions and I never enjoy it too much when I do.
But wait, are you asking me or me from the past?
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new shit has come to light... a-and... shit! man...Last edit: 24/04/2013 14:18

Naib   Hungary. Apr 24 2013 16:18. Posts 968

This is a 5-year old topic necro'd by the latest self-appointed spammer of these forums TTom, I think everyone agrees that the game has changed significantly since then

My favourite line is Bet/Fold. I bet, you fold. 

Stroggoz   New Zealand. Apr 25 2013 02:59. Posts 5291

i 4bet fold TT from utg, utg+1. It can play well when they call 4bets with random junk. calling pre with TT sucks.

One of 3 non decent human beings on a site of 5 people with between 2-3 decent human beings 

TalentedTom    Canada. Apr 25 2013 10:23. Posts 20070

oh wtf i didnt realize this was 2008, fk my bad

Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light not our darkness that most frightens us and as we let our own lights shine we unconsciously give other people permision to do the same 

whamm!   Albania. Apr 27 2013 00:05. Posts 11625

Limp 1010 so u can setmine lol


EvilSky    Czech Republic. Apr 29 2013 04:30. Posts 8915

lol I got all excited thinking there was a new hand posted here (rip lp )


KeyleK_uk   United Kingdom. Sep 10 2013 16:15. Posts 1687


  On April 29 2013 03:30 EvilSky wrote:
lol I got all excited thinking there was a new hand posted here (rip lp )

poker is soooo much easier when you flop sets 

mnj   United States. Sep 10 2013 17:14. Posts 3848


  On September 10 2013 15:15 KeyleK_uk wrote:
Show nested quote +



TheHuHu3   United States. Sep 14 2013 21:36. Posts 5544


  On April 09 2008 11:19 TheHuHu wrote:
I shove here.



Trolling since 2008.

Huhu approved.

TheHuHu4 coming soon :) 

 



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