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thundza   United States. Apr 07 2008 21:48. Posts 2001

Can I get away from AAxx here preflop since they are low and not suited. It seems likely that I'm up against another AAxx. Looking at the percentages, it's marginal at best. Fold pre? Or call and eval flop?
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Full Tilt Poker Game #5948033913: Table Lasorda (6 max) - $0.25/$0.50 - Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 23:42:23 ET - 2008/04/07
Seat 1: odafish9 ($47)
Seat 2: Crankers ($125.90)
Seat 3: dpscoxa ($40.05)
Seat 4: drsthundza ($134.70)
Seat 5: illguitar ($39.75)
Seat 6: mishstar ($53.95)
odafish9 posts the small blind of $0.25
Crankers posts the big blind of $0.50
The button is in seat #6

Holecards(Odds)
Dealt to drsthundza 6dAs4cAh
dpscoxa calls $0.50
drsthundza raises to $2.25
dpscoxa: joker
illguitar raises to $8
mishstar folds
odafish9 has 15 seconds left to act
odafish9 folds
Crankers folds
dpscoxa calls $7.50
drsthundza raises to $32.75
illguitar has 15 seconds left to act
illguitar raises to $39.75, and is all in
dpscoxa raises to $40.05, and is all in
drsthundza calls $7.30
dpscoxa shows 7cAc9d7d
drsthundza shows 6dAs4cAh
illguitar shows 2h4s3h6s

Flop(Odds) (Pot : $120.60)

   8c5sTd

Turn(Odds) (Pot : $120.60)

   8c5sTd5h

River (Pot : $120.60)

   8c5sTd5h7s
dpscoxa shows a full house, Sevens full of Fives
drsthundza shows a straight, Eight high
dpscoxa wins the side pot ($0.60) with a full house, Sevens full of Fives
illguitar shows a straight, Eight high
dpscoxa wins the main pot ($117) with a full house, Sevens full of Fives
illguitar is sitting out

Summary
Total pot $120.60 Main pot $120. Side pot $0.60. | Rake $3
Board:  8c5sTd5h7s
Seat 1: odafish9 (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 2: Crankers (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 3: dpscoxa showed 7cAc9d7d and won ($117.60) with a full house, Sevens full of Fives
Seat 4: drsthundza showed 6dAs4cAh and lost with a straight, Eight high
Seat 5: illguitar showed 2h4s3h6s and lost with a straight, Eight high
Seat 6: mishstar (button) didn't bet (folded)

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Robinson47   United Kingdom. Apr 08 2008 02:13. Posts 992

i dont know much about omaha but if you can get them in committing there whole stack preflop with aaxx, im pretty sure its the right play reagrdless of kickers, you got fold equity as well.


Shabbzoy   United Kingdom. Apr 08 2008 02:30. Posts 841

if they make that 3bet and call the 3 bet with a widish range then thats a perfect spot to 4bet surely since you could put in like 80% of their effective stacks

the opponents only had such great equity because its 3 way and they hold all 4 flush draws between them, if you check their individual equities youll see its a pretty awful reshove by illguitar


thundza   United States. Apr 08 2008 12:01. Posts 2001

Are there any situations in which I would fold AAxx preflop? Especially deep situations?

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Forrest Gump   Argentina. Apr 08 2008 18:31. Posts 1217

if you're opp and there is big action from tight players and you have very little money in the pot, this AA hand can be folded imo
I dont fold AAxx HU, and never AAxx with a suited ace

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Muhweli   Finland. Apr 08 2008 19:19. Posts 10663

Shitty AAxx ain't that good in multiway ai. The pair value sucks - there's usually crapload of more value if you actually have an FD, when it's likely for someone to have AAxx, your hand becomes almost worthless in multiway pot so yes - it's conceivable to fold AAxx.

Then again, with these buy-ins, people have like "QQxx" and go like in hold'em "ZOMG QQZZZ ONLY BEATED BY THEM ACES OR KINGS!! AWWW IN!"

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YoMeR   United States. Apr 10 2008 09:58. Posts 12438

if your aces were sooted then you snap shove. otherwise you tank and shove.

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n0rthf4ce    United States. Apr 11 2008 20:23. Posts 8119

this is a very interesting question, and the short answer is no. you should never fold AA pf if you can get that much $ in vs 2 ppl. However, if one of them were to turn over AKKQ and the other 4567ds, you should technically fold.

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