Ethics: Exposed Cards - Page 7

its not like you are going out of your way to see his cards. if you do that then i agree thats faggotry. but if someone flips up his cards and you see them then thats his own fault and he should pay the consequences for it.

now if a person accidentally pays too much for a pot, if someone drops money off the table and doesnt see it then i think its really asshole-ish to take the money that you dont deserve. those are examples of situations where i think if someone takes the money without saying anything they are an asshole. but here i think its just dumb to not stfu and play your hand. and again, its not like youre going out of your way to see his cards.



you guys know im too nice to actually go through with all of this but i believe in theory i am correct even though i would do otherwise in practice almost always

On March 29 2008 09:40 Skoal wrote: i cant believe no one mentioned this (i think) but you wouldnt tell an asshole but u would tell a friend? you realize gaining extra information against that one player and saying nothing about it means you're cheating everyone at the table, not just that guy what makes you think you deserve to see his cards and they dont?

because you are sitting next to him and exploiting some of your positional advantage.
and i think telling a friend and not telling an asshole cant be considered collusion even though one could argue that you are "softplaying" your friend in a manner because you arent required to tell the person if you see the cards just like you arent required to tell the table if you notice some obvious betting pattern because youre playing pots with a certain person or if you see some tell that you can only see because you are sitting next to someone.

for example i use some leg tells that you cant get from the other side of the table. is this cheating because those people cant see a persons legs?

i have no idea what the fuck youre talking about WTF

So yesterday i flew home from omaha. I had to take a taxi to the airport and when i got there the bill was about 54 dollars. i gave the driver a hundred and asked for 35 change. he started fumbling through some stuff but then says "oh shit i dont have any on me, you can run inside and get some change then come back out". Not wanting to deal with it any longer i gave him the 100 and just went and checked in for my flight. Little did I know that the flight was delayed 90 minutes and id be sitting there with my thumbs up my ass for over an hour. Im pretty sure he conned me that mother fucker

next time remember to threaten to skullfuck until he gets out his change? still confused

today i was trying to get my passport and utility bill scanned and on my computer because i am trying to cash out from full tilt and they require some documents with your name and address on them to do so cause they are shysters. so my dad and i drive to the bank to get this done and the bank tells me they dont have a scanner. while im there i take out 2k in cash for my trip to italy. my dad tells me i should get some small bills but i just get it in 100s.

we leave the bank and are next door to a UPS and my dad goes lets go in here and see if they can do it. I say nah fuck them lets go to the library. so we drive a couple miles down the road to the library and ask the old homely librarian if they have a scanner. she says no we dont have one but i think if you go to the UPS by the bank theyll have one.

we drive back to the UPS store and get the scan done. the UPS guy tells me its 2.12 for the scan and email so i hand him a 100 and the guy looks around in all the drawers and says sorry sir we dont have enough to break this, do you have anything smaller? Then my dad gives me this look that basically says you are one dumb mother fucker.

moral of the story always listen to your papa.
and my papa says a sucker shouldnt keep his money.

ROFL

i get it now

ur papa also said he dont wanna see nuttin he cant have, if i heeded that wise advice id be waaaaay richer

Skoal the extra information concept was something I hadn't figured out but Daut's answer coverd it up I believe. Having a tell is extra information as well and it's also based sometimes on whether u sit next to him or not.
I'd still tell anyone I don't know (for a variety of reasons) about it, unless I really hate the guy.

taxi story wtf O_O
edit: LOL at the baller problems
life is too hard

lol

just to be clear i would pretty much always tell someone that i saw their cards because im too nice, but i really think i am being weak by doing so. i think its a mistake to do so but im going to keep being the nice guy because i dont like money =[

The taxi definitely conned you, he saw you were in a hurry (most people going to airports are) and he was stalling you and in the heat of the moment i bet many people just tell him to keep it.

You should have told him that ur sorry about his $52 loss but that its part of his job to have change money, especially when he is obv conning you.

im pretty sure online poker players are the easiest people to con in the entire world in pretty much anything not regarding their online bankroll. when it comes to online bankrolls we are the most paranoid people on earth but everything else laziness overcomes desire to fight a con

fuck that, im the most ferocious anti conner ever

you get value towned in the rhino harder than moont1980 does on 25/50 nl

I still fail to see what any of this has to do with the person you're telling. Or why telling them is an effort to be nice.

You can do something that is nice without the reason for it being an effort to be nice, you know that right? It's the intent and reasoning for the action that matters, not what you'd describe the action as being.

My intent and reasoning is a self expectation due to what I'd like to have happen in the reverse. Whether or not that would ever actually happen doesn't even matter to me. I could know the person wouldn't tell me and I'd still tell him. For no other reason then I'd want the same in the reverse and expect myself to follow the conduct that I'd prefer.

Doing anything else would be hypocritical.

because in my case it is the opposite of most people. i try to fight an urge to be nice to do what i think is right instead of fighting an urge to be greedy to be nice.

On March 29 2008 11:12 FrEaK[S.sIR] wrote: I still fail to see what any of this has to do with the person you're telling. Or why telling them is an effort to be nice. You can do something that is nice without the reason for it being an effort to be nice, you know that right? It's the intent and reasoning for the action that matters, not what you'd describe the action as being. My intent and reasoning is a self expectation due to what I'd like to have happen in the reverse. Whether or not that would ever actually happen doesn't even matter to me. I could know the person wouldn't tell me and I'd still tell him. For no other reason then I'd want the same in the reverse and expect myself to follow the conduct that I'd prefer. Doing anything else would be hypocritical.

pretty much what Daut said earlier its about congruence.

I wouldnt expect to be told about my cards.

what freak is saying is that he doesn't expect it too,but he would like to be told in the other guy's shoes, so he considers it a good action and he chooses to do it himself.I think.

But I believe this is a rather strange way to think,or at least not an obviously correct one.
You can't actually ever put yourself in someone elses shoes anyway,much more if that someone is a person really irritating or doing things that you'd never do.
So the decision has to be based on other factors imo

I'm not putting myself in anybody else's shoes. I'm only in my shoes. Where are you getting this? Have I not been clear enough?

Don't you mean in his position when you say what would happen in the reverse?
Ok maybe I got it wrong
then I don't get it
nm

Freak's shoes are ugly... and his hair is plain retarded.