NL25 KK PF

Submitted by : Jubert69

PokerStars Game #16294240557: Hold'em No Limit ($0.10/$0.25) - 2008/03/27 - 17:25:44 (ET)
Table 'Antonia' 6-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: AndTheWalrus ($25 in chips)
Seat 2: gronzi ($25.85 in chips)
Seat 3: mocafull ($12.45 in chips)
Seat 4: Hero ($108.80 in chips)
Seat 5: Poker_Muzz ($28.95 in chips)
Seat 6: Juleniss1 ($33.25 in chips)
AndTheWalrus: posts small blind $0.10
gronzi: posts big blind $0.25

Holecards
Dealt to Hero
mocafull: calls $0.25
Hero : raises $1 to $1.25
Poker_Muzz: folds
Juleniss1: raises $2.25 to $3.50
AndTheWalrus: folds
gronzi: folds
mocafull: folds
Hero : raises $6.50 to $10
Juleniss1: raises $23.25 to $33.25 and is all-in
Hero said, "so sick"
Hero said, "u have AA"
Hero :

its an eZ fold no matter what people here say. Normally yes, you do go broke with KK's SH but under the such circumstances that hes a nit fish ABC player and isn't doing this with QQ then fold.

I'm happy to snap it, unless I have enough information on villain to muck it to his 3bet. Oh, and you're getting 2:1 now and if my fast callculations are correct, you're making profit if he has aces <75% of the time.

Don't 4 bet unless you want to get it in pf. This is almost always aces and I'd probably fold but you gave away 1/2 a buy-in to find out.

Normally, you go broke, yes. You really want a read before you muck Kings pf. Really depends on what you feel better doing: already, there's a split in the first two posts of "ez fold" and "ez snapcall".

As played, you already have half a bi. Just get it in and make a note if you want to. =s

If you wanna "find out" about his aces and fold then make a smaller 4bet. But if you think he's so nitty that he will only shove aces vs your 4bet, just call his 3bet and play it from the flop.

ewww dont ever ever fold here. If you do you turned your KK into a bluff by 4-betting. You are getting 2:1 with kings preflop, there is no way in holy hell that you can fold now.

You just shouldnt fold KK preflop like ever, take your coolers like a man the times he has aces.

On March 28 2008 09:38 SakiSaki wrote: You just shouldnt fold KK preflop like ever, take your coolers like a man the times he has aces.

On March 27 2008 15:07 GameOverNoob wrote: its an eZ fold no matter what people here say. Normally yes, you do go broke with KK's SH but under the such circumstances that hes a nit fish ABC player and isn't doing this with QQ then fold.

4bet/folding KK is terrible, you'd be surprised what some people will have here especially if they view you as being aggressive.

snapcall, 60% of the time its aces everytime

6 max KK hu is never a fold ever unless you hate money

On March 28 2008 13:06 Critterer wrote: snapcall, 60% of the time its aces everytime

lmao

On March 27 2008 15:07 GameOverNoob wrote: its an eZ fold no matter what people here say. Normally yes, you do go broke with KK's SH but under the such circumstances that hes a nit fish ABC player and isn't doing this with QQ then fold.

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4bet / fold AHAHAHAHAHHAAHHHHAAHHAH.
If he is a nitfish ABC player then 4bet him with your entire 3bet range till he adapts, but never fold KK after 4betting it pre unless villain is 1/1/0 and you are 300 BB deep.

go fucking broke here

usually go broke but i wouldn't 4 bet here unless his 4 bet calling range is less than KK/AA ;o

cuz you miss value of you do this.

obv once you 4 bet that large you snap call any shove.

how can u ask this of us and give us no info on the player vs ur generic poker 25NL player ur always sticking it here

4 bet only if u are going to call his all in, otherwise just call

and no you dont have to go broke everytime with KK PF

Submitted by : locoo

GAME #910666559: Texas Hold'em NL $2.00/$4.00 2008-03-28 21:52:57
Table "TURBO" Fakse
Seat 1: geordie ace ($227.60 in chips)
Seat 2: mrfloppyhh ($170.00 in chips)
Seat 4: tankabbott ($378.00 in chips)
Seat 5: Laglos ($473.85 in chips) DEALER
Seat 7: BABYDODI2 ($296.00 in chips)
Seat 10: Hero ($414.00 in chips)
BABYDODI2: Post SB $2.00
Hero : Post BB $4.00

Holecards(Odds)
Dealt to Hero

geordie ace: Raise $8.00
mrfloppyhh: Fold
tankabbott: Fold
Laglos: Fold
BABYDODI2: Fold
Hero : Call $4.00

Flop(Odds) (Pot : $18.00)

   
Hero : Check
geordie ace: Bet $12.00
Hero : Call $12.00

Turn(Odds) (Pot : $42.00)

   
Hero : Check
geordie ace: Bet $24.00
Hero : Call $24.00

River (Pot : $90.00)

   
Hero : Check
geordie ace: Check

Summary
Total pot $87.00 Rake $3.00
geordie ace: wins $87.00

Dealt to geordie ace

This thread made me giggle.
If you have some divine intervention that he has AA, fold for god sakes.
It's so retardedly standard cooler rant thread, imma wrist.