Looks or Game?

On March 09 2008 08:13 FrEaK[S.sIR] wrote: Show nested quote + On March 09 2008 08:08 Steal City wrote:   On March 09 2008 07:58 FrEaK[S.sIR] wrote: Here, just using the link that YOU provided, I'm going to prove you wrong. You're saying that somebody who is sexually mature holds the traits of self control, stability, independence, seriousness, responsibility, method/tact, endurance, experience, objectivity and decision making capability. If the answer is no, they aren't a mature adult. Stop trying to argue as if being sexually mature is the only thing that dictates adulthood. I never argued this!!! please REREAD!!! I said that lines draw like the current ones we have are arbitrary! You did too. I'm not trying to draw the line. I'm saying that if you are aware that somebody is not a mature adult and target them regardless because you think that will get you what you want, you're a disgusting human being. That's what I said to begin with, that's what I said to floofy. This is what you're arguing with me about. I don't give a fuck about what society says or what the norms are. If you take advantage of people, you're a waste of skin. I don't know why you keep talking about society and what norms are and what people think. My thoughts aren't dictated by society or what society has to say is acceptable. Nor has anything I said made that seem like the case. The only reason I argued about society is because you brought it up for some reason. But now I see what you're trying to argue and I'm telling you it has nothing to do with society. If you take advantage of people, you're a pathetic piece of shit. If you don't agree with this, stop fucking arguing with me. I know I'm getting emotional, this isn't something I'm going to budge on. If this isn't what you're trying to argue with me about, fuck off. You're being annoying.

you came from the point of view that the girl, merely because of her age and sexual inexperience is not mature enough to have a realtionship or sex with Floofy. My argument was "who are you to judge?"

On March 09 2008 08:14 Steal City wrote: Show nested quote + On March 09 2008 08:10 FrEaK[S.sIR] wrote: There is a solvable right answer. It's wrong to take advantage of somebody's lack of experience to further your own desires. If you disagree with this I think you're a disgusting piece of shit and have nothing more to say to you. This isn't something I'm going to change or budge on. I will NEVER agree with taking advantage of people's lack of emotional development, maturity or social experience because you have something you want. People who take advantage of people are disgusting and need to find a place to rot. I help people, I'm compassionate, I love people with all my heart with little regard to myself. I will NEVER be okay, under any circumstances, of people taking advantage of people. I don't care what you say. taking advantage is different than abusing... you may decide to become closer friends with someone you went to highschool with and now is coincidentally at the same college as you. This is taking advantage of a person who is in a similar time of their life. It is also taking advantage of location/logistics and simply having things in common. This is what I think floofy is talking about.

Nobody said anything about abusing. Those things aren't anything similar. The fact that you think so makes me think you're no different than floofy and we've already established what that means I think of you.

On March 09 2008 08:15 FrEaK[S.sIR] wrote: Show nested quote + On March 09 2008 08:11 Steal City wrote:   On March 09 2008 08:03 FrEaK[S.sIR] wrote: Floofy said he was intentionally targeting somebody who was inexperienced and immature because he feels awkward around those that are experienced and immature. This has very little to do with age. It has to do with him targeting a 16 year old BECAUSE that 16 year old is inexperienced. I said that in my original post. I don't know how you missed that. I don't think he should be going after anybody inexperienced or who isn't prepared to be in a relationship, regardless of age. I made that clear. Age isn't the important thing. 16 year olds as a whole are just inexperienced and immature. It becomes less so as people get older and get more experience and learn. There are obvious exceptions either way. How you continuously miss that my focus is on him taking advantage of somebody's lack of experience is beyond me. Goes back to your refusal to listen. to me it seemed like Floofy was just talking about sexual immaturity and relationship immaturity (I'll reread though) I didn't see him saying he wanted someone who was immature to the degree that she is not mature enough to have a relationship? Otherwise, how is it different that people wanting to lose their virginity to other virgins? That's exactly what he said. That he felt awkward around people who were experienced and had lots of talk about because he had nothing to say and didn't know what to do because he's socially awkward and feels weird interacting with mature adults. So he's going to go after some 16 year old because he thinks they'll be more on his level. That's what he said. How you missed this is beyond me.

could you plz find this post where he said that??? I don't want to find a post and then have u say no he said it in another.

On March 09 2008 08:16 Steal City wrote: Show nested quote + On March 09 2008 08:13 FrEaK[S.sIR] wrote:   On March 09 2008 08:08 Steal City wrote:   On March 09 2008 07:58 FrEaK[S.sIR] wrote: Here, just using the link that YOU provided, I'm going to prove you wrong. You're saying that somebody who is sexually mature holds the traits of self control, stability, independence, seriousness, responsibility, method/tact, endurance, experience, objectivity and decision making capability. If the answer is no, they aren't a mature adult. Stop trying to argue as if being sexually mature is the only thing that dictates adulthood. I never argued this!!! please REREAD!!! I said that lines draw like the current ones we have are arbitrary! You did too. I'm not trying to draw the line. I'm saying that if you are aware that somebody is not a mature adult and target them regardless because you think that will get you what you want, you're a disgusting human being. That's what I said to begin with, that's what I said to floofy. This is what you're arguing with me about. I don't give a fuck about what society says or what the norms are. If you take advantage of people, you're a waste of skin. I don't know why you keep talking about society and what norms are and what people think. My thoughts aren't dictated by society or what society has to say is acceptable. Nor has anything I said made that seem like the case. The only reason I argued about society is because you brought it up for some reason. But now I see what you're trying to argue and I'm telling you it has nothing to do with society. If you take advantage of people, you're a pathetic piece of shit. If you don't agree with this, stop fucking arguing with me. I know I'm getting emotional, this isn't something I'm going to budge on. If this isn't what you're trying to argue with me about, fuck off. You're being annoying. you came from the point of view that the girl, merely because of her age and sexual inexperience is not mature enough to have a realtionship or sex with Floofy. My argument was "who are you to judge?"

No, I didn't. Don't put words in my mouth. Don't tell me what I think or why I think it. Just stop it. You've been doing it repeatedly.

I came to that conclusion because he said he was going for her bedause she was inexperienced and immature and he felt more comfortable going for somebody like that. D

On March 09 2008 08:17 Steal City wrote: Show nested quote + On March 09 2008 08:15 FrEaK[S.sIR] wrote:   On March 09 2008 08:11 Steal City wrote:   On March 09 2008 08:03 FrEaK[S.sIR] wrote: Floofy said he was intentionally targeting somebody who was inexperienced and immature because he feels awkward around those that are experienced and immature. This has very little to do with age. It has to do with him targeting a 16 year old BECAUSE that 16 year old is inexperienced. I said that in my original post. I don't know how you missed that. I don't think he should be going after anybody inexperienced or who isn't prepared to be in a relationship, regardless of age. I made that clear. Age isn't the important thing. 16 year olds as a whole are just inexperienced and immature. It becomes less so as people get older and get more experience and learn. There are obvious exceptions either way. How you continuously miss that my focus is on him taking advantage of somebody's lack of experience is beyond me. Goes back to your refusal to listen. to me it seemed like Floofy was just talking about sexual immaturity and relationship immaturity (I'll reread though) I didn't see him saying he wanted someone who was immature to the degree that she is not mature enough to have a relationship? Otherwise, how is it different that people wanting to lose their virginity to other virgins? That's exactly what he said. That he felt awkward around people who were experienced and had lots of talk about because he had nothing to say and didn't know what to do because he's socially awkward and feels weird interacting with mature adults. So he's going to go after some 16 year old because he thinks they'll be more on his level. That's what he said. How you missed this is beyond me. could you plz find this post where he said that??? I don't want to find a post and then have u say no he said it in another.

No, I'm not going to find the post. I don't have to convince you. This has nothing to do with you. This has to do with what floofy wants to do with some girl who's immature and inexperienced because he's too awkward and weird to man up and get somebody who knows better. I don't give a flying fuck about you.

On March 09 2008 08:16 FrEaK[S.sIR] wrote: Show nested quote + On March 09 2008 08:14 Steal City wrote:   On March 09 2008 08:10 FrEaK[S.sIR] wrote: There is a solvable right answer. It's wrong to take advantage of somebody's lack of experience to further your own desires. If you disagree with this I think you're a disgusting piece of shit and have nothing more to say to you. This isn't something I'm going to change or budge on. I will NEVER agree with taking advantage of people's lack of emotional development, maturity or social experience because you have something you want. People who take advantage of people are disgusting and need to find a place to rot. I help people, I'm compassionate, I love people with all my heart with little regard to myself. I will NEVER be okay, under any circumstances, of people taking advantage of people. I don't care what you say. taking advantage is different than abusing... you may decide to become closer friends with someone you went to highschool with and now is coincidentally at the same college as you. This is taking advantage of a person who is in a similar time of their life. It is also taking advantage of location/logistics and simply having things in common. This is what I think floofy is talking about. Nobody said anything about abusing. Those things aren't anything similar. The fact that you think so makes me think you're no different than floofy and we've already established what that means I think of you.

could you plz explain? To me it seems that you're saying it could be WRONG to target inexperienced girls who are mature enough enough for a sexual relationship because you are taking advantage of the fact that you are both inexperienced.

On March 09 2008 08:12 kimseongchan wrote: Show nested quote + On March 09 2008 08:10 FrEaK[S.sIR] wrote: There is a solvable right answer. It's wrong to take advantage of somebody's lack of experience to further your own desires. If you disagree with this I think you're a disgusting piece of shit and have nothing more to say to you. I don't think you can say this as a poker player.

Bettering somebody at a game of skill is completely different than taking advantage of somebody's lack of emotional maturity. How dare you accuse me of such a thing.

And if you honestly think this, what the fuck are you doing on a poker forum?

Don't compare me to somebody who takes advantage of young girls who aren't mature enough to know any better just because I play poker. They aren't comparable.

On March 09 2008 08:20 FrEaK[S.sIR] wrote: Show nested quote + On March 09 2008 08:17 Steal City wrote:   On March 09 2008 08:15 FrEaK[S.sIR] wrote:   On March 09 2008 08:11 Steal City wrote:   On March 09 2008 08:03 FrEaK[S.sIR] wrote: Floofy said he was intentionally targeting somebody who was inexperienced and immature because he feels awkward around those that are experienced and immature. This has very little to do with age. It has to do with him targeting a 16 year old BECAUSE that 16 year old is inexperienced. I said that in my original post. I don't know how you missed that. I don't think he should be going after anybody inexperienced or who isn't prepared to be in a relationship, regardless of age. I made that clear. Age isn't the important thing. 16 year olds as a whole are just inexperienced and immature. It becomes less so as people get older and get more experience and learn. There are obvious exceptions either way. How you continuously miss that my focus is on him taking advantage of somebody's lack of experience is beyond me. Goes back to your refusal to listen. to me it seemed like Floofy was just talking about sexual immaturity and relationship immaturity (I'll reread though) I didn't see him saying he wanted someone who was immature to the degree that she is not mature enough to have a relationship? Otherwise, how is it different that people wanting to lose their virginity to other virgins? That's exactly what he said. That he felt awkward around people who were experienced and had lots of talk about because he had nothing to say and didn't know what to do because he's socially awkward and feels weird interacting with mature adults. So he's going to go after some 16 year old because he thinks they'll be more on his level. That's what he said. How you missed this is beyond me. could you plz find this post where he said that??? I don't want to find a post and then have u say no he said it in another. No, I'm not going to find the post. I don't have to convince you. This has nothing to do with you. This has to do with what floofy wants to do with some girl who's immature and inexperienced because he's too awkward and weird to man up and get somebody who knows better. I don't give a flying fuck about you.

exactly, the post doesn't exist, he merely implied that her lack of experience was good bc there are fewer expectations on his performance. He did not say anything about targeting girls who are not ready for a relationship

On March 09 2008 08:20 Steal City wrote: Show nested quote + On March 09 2008 08:16 FrEaK[S.sIR] wrote:   On March 09 2008 08:14 Steal City wrote:   On March 09 2008 08:10 FrEaK[S.sIR] wrote: There is a solvable right answer. It's wrong to take advantage of somebody's lack of experience to further your own desires. If you disagree with this I think you're a disgusting piece of shit and have nothing more to say to you. This isn't something I'm going to change or budge on. I will NEVER agree with taking advantage of people's lack of emotional development, maturity or social experience because you have something you want. People who take advantage of people are disgusting and need to find a place to rot. I help people, I'm compassionate, I love people with all my heart with little regard to myself. I will NEVER be okay, under any circumstances, of people taking advantage of people. I don't care what you say. taking advantage is different than abusing... you may decide to become closer friends with someone you went to highschool with and now is coincidentally at the same college as you. This is taking advantage of a person who is in a similar time of their life. It is also taking advantage of location/logistics and simply having things in common. This is what I think floofy is talking about. Nobody said anything about abusing. Those things aren't anything similar. The fact that you think so makes me think you're no different than floofy and we've already established what that means I think of you. could you plz explain? To me it seems that you're saying it could be WRONG to target inexperienced girls who are mature enough enough for a sexual relationship because you are taking advantage of the fact that you are both inexperienced.

You can't be inexperienced and mature enough. Being mature is dictated by your level of experience. Do you think when I say inexperienced I mean sexually? Becuase I don't. I don't give a fuck about that.

You can't be both inexperienced and mature, it doesn't work that way. I'm not talking about sexual relationships, I'm talking about emotional relationships. I'm talking about life, not sex. I've made this clear. If you're going to keep refusing to see this then just stop talking.

On March 08 2008 19:41 Floofy wrote: Show nested quote + On March 08 2008 19:37 PokerDoc88 wrote: why do you care how good looking she is? what the fuck

LOL! High five dude*
As soon as I read that I said "what the fuck" aloud.

On March 09 2008 08:22 Steal City wrote: Show nested quote + On March 09 2008 08:20 FrEaK[S.sIR] wrote:   On March 09 2008 08:17 Steal City wrote:   On March 09 2008 08:15 FrEaK[S.sIR] wrote:   On March 09 2008 08:11 Steal City wrote:   On March 09 2008 08:03 FrEaK[S.sIR] wrote: Floofy said he was intentionally targeting somebody who was inexperienced and immature because he feels awkward around those that are experienced and immature. This has very little to do with age. It has to do with him targeting a 16 year old BECAUSE that 16 year old is inexperienced. I said that in my original post. I don't know how you missed that. I don't think he should be going after anybody inexperienced or who isn't prepared to be in a relationship, regardless of age. I made that clear. Age isn't the important thing. 16 year olds as a whole are just inexperienced and immature. It becomes less so as people get older and get more experience and learn. There are obvious exceptions either way. How you continuously miss that my focus is on him taking advantage of somebody's lack of experience is beyond me. Goes back to your refusal to listen. to me it seemed like Floofy was just talking about sexual immaturity and relationship immaturity (I'll reread though) I didn't see him saying he wanted someone who was immature to the degree that she is not mature enough to have a relationship? Otherwise, how is it different that people wanting to lose their virginity to other virgins? That's exactly what he said. That he felt awkward around people who were experienced and had lots of talk about because he had nothing to say and didn't know what to do because he's socially awkward and feels weird interacting with mature adults. So he's going to go after some 16 year old because he thinks they'll be more on his level. That's what he said. How you missed this is beyond me. could you plz find this post where he said that??? I don't want to find a post and then have u say no he said it in another. No, I'm not going to find the post. I don't have to convince you. This has nothing to do with you. This has to do with what floofy wants to do with some girl who's immature and inexperienced because he's too awkward and weird to man up and get somebody who knows better. I don't give a flying fuck about you. exactly, the post doesn't exist, he merely implied that her lack of experience was good bc there are fewer expectations on his performance. He did not say anything about targeting girls who are not ready for a relationship

Or maybe I'm not going to dig through hundreds of posts to prove something to somebody that this has absolutely nothing to do with? What lack of experience is good because of the fewer expectations of his performance? We aren't tlaking about sex. We aren't talking about sexual inexperience.

We're talking about taking advantage of somebody who is emotionally immature and inexperience with life and people because he doesn't feel comfortable going for somebody who is ebcause he's too awkward and weird. How many times do I have to repeat it?

Stop talking about sex, it has nothing to do with it.

On March 09 2008 08:22 FrEaK[S.sIR] wrote: Show nested quote + On March 09 2008 08:12 kimseongchan wrote:   On March 09 2008 08:10 FrEaK[S.sIR] wrote: There is a solvable right answer. It's wrong to take advantage of somebody's lack of experience to further your own desires. If you disagree with this I think you're a disgusting piece of shit and have nothing more to say to you. I don't think you can say this as a poker player. Bettering somebody at a game of skill is completely different than taking advantage of somebody's lack of emotional maturity. How dare you accuse me of such a thing. And if you honestly think this, what the fuck are you doing on a poker forum? Don't compare me to somebody who takes advantage of young girls who aren't mature enough to know any better just because I play poker. They aren't comparable.

again you're attacking people that are just trying to understand your logic. He never said he thought that!!! I know you didn't say he thought that but you said "And if you honestly think this, what the fuck are you doing on a poker forum?" implying that he DOES think it. He doesn't think so, he's just trying to understand how you can hold both opinions. Many people think that poker pros take advantage of people who are not financially mature, emotionally mature or simply just not mature enough human beings to responsibly gamble. CERTAINLY, there are many people who play poker than don't have experience... and you are certainly taking advantage of these things. Please don't be mean to people like that and stop assuming people are against you. Ppl just want to understand your logic ;p

On March 09 2008 08:26 FrEaK[S.sIR] wrote: Show nested quote + On March 09 2008 08:22 Steal City wrote:   On March 09 2008 08:20 FrEaK[S.sIR] wrote:   On March 09 2008 08:17 Steal City wrote:   On March 09 2008 08:15 FrEaK[S.sIR] wrote:   On March 09 2008 08:11 Steal City wrote:   On March 09 2008 08:03 FrEaK[S.sIR] wrote: Floofy said he was intentionally targeting somebody who was inexperienced and immature because he feels awkward around those that are experienced and immature. This has very little to do with age. It has to do with him targeting a 16 year old BECAUSE that 16 year old is inexperienced. I said that in my original post. I don't know how you missed that. I don't think he should be going after anybody inexperienced or who isn't prepared to be in a relationship, regardless of age. I made that clear. Age isn't the important thing. 16 year olds as a whole are just inexperienced and immature. It becomes less so as people get older and get more experience and learn. There are obvious exceptions either way. How you continuously miss that my focus is on him taking advantage of somebody's lack of experience is beyond me. Goes back to your refusal to listen. to me it seemed like Floofy was just talking about sexual immaturity and relationship immaturity (I'll reread though) I didn't see him saying he wanted someone who was immature to the degree that she is not mature enough to have a relationship? Otherwise, how is it different that people wanting to lose their virginity to other virgins? That's exactly what he said. That he felt awkward around people who were experienced and had lots of talk about because he had nothing to say and didn't know what to do because he's socially awkward and feels weird interacting with mature adults. So he's going to go after some 16 year old because he thinks they'll be more on his level. That's what he said. How you missed this is beyond me. could you plz find this post where he said that??? I don't want to find a post and then have u say no he said it in another.