Looks or Game?

On February 16 2008 20:38 Yugless wrote: floofy one day you're going to realize how ridiculous this is and how easy it is to just go up to a girl, relax, and talk to her.

i dont see how its ridiculous. improving your looks will both improve your confidence and will obviously not hurt the girl

talking to a girl might be easy but seducing her isn't

On February 16 2008 20:42 Yugless wrote: trust me, as much as you idolize him you don't want to be the sleazy rekrul type. any girl worth having can see through "game" a mile away and isn't impressed by it.

well im pretty sure rekrul gets tons and tons of chicks, and i never had a single chick
so he might be doing something right and im obv doing something wrong

up until now i never had any sort of game...

lets give an easy example to prove game is important

i have been having the worst game ever with you. there is no chance in hell you would have attraction for me even if i looked like antonius (i wasnt trying in the first place anyways)
but someone like doomer who is putting on some massive game on you, you obv can't resist him

It's just about confident in who you are Floofy.

I know it sounds retarded and cliched, but it's true.

Also some things that may help:

Take up an interesting hobby. It helps you meet new people and have something different to talk about with girls.

Dress well. I think you already understand this one.

Talk to random girls for practice. If you're on a bus, in a library, waiting for food in a line. W/e, just talk to them. You don't have to go in with the intention of wanting to pick them up, but just talk to them for practice. See how you can get girls to react positively to you, and it'll give you confidence in being able to approach and talk to women who you may actually be interested in.

'Game' is somewhat overrated unless you're looking to pick up a girl for a 1 nighter. In that case, yes, you did need a good angle to work, but if you want something more longer term, don't waste your time trying to impress a girl with BS that you can't back up over a longer period. Just learn to be confident in who you are and get out and do something about it rather than sitting around bemoaing your insecurities.

Girls are like anything in life - you need experience and practice if you ever expect to get anywhere. It's never just "going to happen" as so many people think. Be proactice!

So I was reading through this thread and much of what I said has already been said.

Meh.

can u give suggestions of hobbies

dance dance revolution?

On February 16 2008 20:51 Floofy wrote: lets give an easy example to prove game is important i have been having the worst game ever with you. there is no chance in hell you would have attraction for me even if i looked like antonius (i wasnt trying in the first place anyways) but someone like doomer who is putting on some massive game on you, you obv can't resist him

wth are you talking about

your hobby should be chatting and reading a lot about anything

On February 16 2008 22:01 Yugless wrote: Show nested quote + On February 16 2008 20:51 Floofy wrote: lets give an easy example to prove game is important i have been having the worst game ever with you. there is no chance in hell you would have attraction for me even if i looked like antonius (i wasnt trying in the first place anyways) but someone like doomer who is putting on some massive game on you, you obv can't resist him wth are you talking about

its a retarded example because this is the internets
imagine LP hapened in real life

im saying the way i behaved with you on this topic basicelly makes it 0% for you to have attraction for me. ive been acting like a total wussie.
the way doomer is acting is much better

On February 16 2008 20:42 Yugless wrote: trust me, as much as you idolize him you don't want to be the sleazy rekrul type. any girl worth having can see through "game" a mile away and isn't impressed by it.

i don't agree with this

it's valuable to demonstrate tactical intelligence and restraint and control

rote game with no recourse or tactical understanding is disgusting and disrespectful

game from boys is not game. it is tictactoe.

On February 16 2008 22:39 sawseech wrote: Show nested quote + On February 16 2008 20:42 Yugless wrote: trust me, as much as you idolize him you don't want to be the sleazy rekrul type. any girl worth having can see through "game" a mile away and isn't impressed by it. i don't agree with this it's valuable to demonstrate tactical intelligence and restraint and control rote game with no recourse or tactical understanding is disgusting and disrespectful game from boys is not game. it is tictactoe.

On February 16 2008 22:01 Yugless wrote: wth are you talking about

thanks to game, i'm finally not so superficial anymore

just go for the sluts imo, way easier than worthwhile women

On February 16 2008 23:42 Zealeo wrote: just go for the sluts imo, way easier than worthwhile women

i think said poster doesn't actually understand what the word 'worthwhile' means.

let me break it down for you: WoRtH WhILe

THIS THREAD IS SUCH A DISASTER

show her your lifetime pokertracker graph <-- easiest way to pick up a gyal imo
that and GHB Acid

On February 16 2008 20:42 Yugless wrote: trust me, as much as you idolize him you don't want to be the sleazy rekrul type. any girl worth having can see through "game" a mile away and isn't impressed by it.

whats the sleazy rekrul type

fuck that i ain't explaining shit.

i would explian too but they'd just not understand anywyas and get mad

This is an awesome thread. I'm sure a lot of us here can learn tons from the conquistadors of the female race, even if we don't want to let it be known.

I'm pretty much in the same boat as you Floofy. You sound like me almost a year ago lol. But I'm not much ahead.

I started by deciding that my lifestyle was a waste of my youth. I decided to live. So, I began by reading steve pavlina's webpage. He's a self help dude generating 40k+ a month through ad generating revenue. Pavlina's articles are great.

It wasn't until I downloaded a few of his Podcasts that I found out he was in his early 30s. He writes like hes 45+ with tons of life experience under his belt. I read his articles and you can take his free podcasts on the go. Here is the link: http://www.stevepavlina.com/audio/

Back to me :D After going through some of his material I got into my gym routines off and on. I started trying to pack on miniscule weight. The progress is dismally slow and my microstakes failures aren't helping any either, paying-for-foodwise. But I'm still on the horse and are 2 weeks into change. I'm sure you can do it with some self help behind your back!

I bought a book for my ex girlfriend (now i have more time to achieve personal goals). Decided to say fuck it and came up with the courage to ask this girl at the counter of barnes and nobles what she thought of this gift idea. She seemed genuinely interersted in my opinion and turned to her cute co worker. They both seemed to enjoy this interruption from their boring daily routines.

Now I'm going to talk to more girls whenever I feel good. That's the first step, they're not mysteries! Just get your foot in the door.






Now a reader's request. Someone pokercoach me so that I can build more momentum in my life goals :D


Edit: I use so many self reference pronouns. I sound like a self centered douchebag.