Bonus hitting for fun and profit (small stakes)

UPDATED: January 29th, 2006

• Added Martin's Poker, for a 800€ (1000$) easy bonus. Hit it while it's still alive...

UPDATED: January 11th, 2006

• The useful information should be faster to get.
  
• Updated Boss Media sites, after a lot of changes in January.

As a bunch of you here, I took Meat's $75 Party offer and played happily on that. The time came though that PP decided I was no longer a beginner and should not play on the beginner tables anymore. With a bankroll of about $220, I didn't want to play NL$25 for which I was still underbankrolled so I had to leave for greener pastures. But where, that was the question. I thought about going to PokerStars for a while, for the nice software, or Battlefield for the nice rakeback from LP.net but eventually I walked another path.

I went to hit some juicy bonus to build my bankroll faster. Don't be mistaken here, I had no plan to go bonus whoring a dozen of sites every month just to grab the bonus, then rinse and repeat. I'm still here to play poker, but since I have to move to another site, why not make the expectation of this move as high as possible.

I went through a couple of bonuswhoring tutorials, dozens of threads on different forums, reading fine print in the offers of various poker rooms, trying to find what would fit my very specific needs. A lot of bonus take way too long to clear if you play NL10, or are plain undoable. I have made a selection of the best, and the order in which you should hit them. I was planning on posting this a little bit later, when I actually went through the whole path myself, but since some of these offers are limited in time, I might as well post it immediately and update later. So, there we go.

Bonus hitting for fun and profit : the NL10 guide

The Boss Media network
This was a goldmine, with 3 $100 bonus you could get very easily, less so now, but still worth a shot. A lot of them still offer the $100 bonus, but it's a bit longer to get than before. You can grab the bonus on several rooms of that network without a problem. It is supposed to be limited to 3 or 4 I think, but I couldn't be bothered to continue after the 3rd one. Here is a handy link to have the list of all the rooms running on this network : http://www.ipn247.com/

My first impression of the software was that it sucked horribly. But it's ok when you've gotten used to it. The worst things are that you can't get your hand histories (except the last 3-4 or so, and even then it doesn't show anything of the hand after you folded) and you can't take notes on your opponents. The waiting lists are pretty annoying too, as soon as you join one table you're kicked of the other waiting lists. The live help from the poker software completely sucks, but some of the rooms have their own on their website.

But don't let all of this discourage you, because all of this doesn't discourage the worst casual gamers, and that's exactly what you'll find here : the worst. The competition is extremely soft. Seriously, the NL$10 are even softer than party's NL$5 (no kidding, you'll always find 5-max games with 95+% players on the flop and 10-max with 70-75+% !).

You'll find a lot of NL$10 tables to play (much more than on PartyPoker), either 10-handed or 5-handed for faster action. I prefer to play full ring (mainly because I suck at 5-max), but if you want to clear the bonus really fast, 5-tabling 5-max should be the way to go. I didn't do it, because I was there to play poker as usual but you're free. On the other hand, you'll find only 5-6 NL25 tables and they're not always as juicy as the NL10.

The requirement to get those $100 varies from one room to another. Most of them work on a contributed raked hands basis : you have to play a certain amout of hands that were raked (even 1c rake is enough) AND where you put money in the pot. If you're going to play NL, as soon as the pot reaches $1 it's raked, and let me tell you this happens often. If you want to find out how many raked hands you have, just try live help or ask support by mail.

$100 for 500 hands
The best ones, doable extremely quickly. There were more before, but I guess they're getting tired of giving away so much money.

Casino.net

• Click on Poker at the top right
  
• $100 bonus ($30 after the first 100 hands, $70 after the 400 next)
  
• 500 contributed raked hands
  
• Cashout time : 1-4 days they say, mine took 2 days
  
• Uses WebDollar as cashier system, you may need to have an email exchange with them if you want to deposit on 2 sites that use WebDollar. I had no problem at all.
  
• You can withdraw up to $500 easily. For more, you'll need a PIN code that they send you by snail mail, it can take a couple of weeks depending on where you live (took 4-5 days for me in France).

Sporting Bet

• The bonus doesn't appear on their website anymore, but I've read people who signed up and still got it, so I'll leave the info here.
  
• $100 bonus ($30 after the first 100 hands, $70 after the 400 next)
  
• 500 contributed raked hands
  
• Cashout time : 1-4 days they say, mine took 2 days
  
• It seems their local sites in other countries still advertise the bonus. You could maybe even grab the bonus at different sportingbet's (not tested by myself). Check the other sporting bet sites for a list. I haven't tried myself since the promotion has been over at the main site, if you try and it works, please tell me
  
• Live support : they answer immediately and were always helpful for me.
  
• Cashout : < 24 hours they say, mine took 5 days (ok it was during christmas)
  
• Minor website glitch : your balance won't appear as long as you have the software open. Sometimes you will still see $0 in your account even with the software closed, clicking on the Games tab instead of Poker always worked for me.

Sporting Odds

• $100 bonus ($30 after the first 100 hands, $70 after the 400 next)
  
• 500 contribute raked hands
  
• $100 / month for 3000 raked hands
  
• Warning : Neteller NOT accepted, they take only credit cards and Western Union I think.

$100 for 1000 hands
Then, there's a bunch of rooms that need 1000 raked hands. I'll just list them for the sake of exhaustivity but they are not as interesting, but now that the $100 for 500 hands bonus is harder to get, you might want to play these too. You can find the address yourself on the list of all Boss Media sites.

Pokerhour : $100, 1000 hands, and $100 every month for playing 2000 hands
King Solomon : $100, 1000 hands (+ a deck of cards on signup, as if it mattered...)
Total Poker : $100, 1000 hands
TGF : $100, 1000 hands
Poker Heaven : $100, 1000 hands
Casino-club : $100, 1000 hands
Juega Poker : $100, 1000 hands, not in English
Bet Direct : £25 (roughly $50), 500 hands

Equivalent to rakeback
Some need you to pay a certain amount of rake to clear the bonus, which accounts to a time-limited rakeback system.

Trio Poker : $100, need to contribute $200 rake = 50% rakeback, good
Everton : $500 on $500 deposit, $20 per $50 rake = 40% rakeback, not bad
Virgin poker : $200 on $200 deposit, $10 per $35 rake = 28%
Bet Royal: $100 on $500 deposit, $10 per $40 rake = 25%
Landora : $500 on $500 deposit, $5 per $25 rake = 20%
Celeb poker : $300 on $150 deposit, $5 per $25 rake = 20%


When you are planning to hit several rooms, be careful never to have all your money flying away in a cash out at the same time, else you'll experience "poker downtime", which we don't want. The cashout from Casino.net for example isn't particularly fast (they say 1-4 days on their site, took about 2 days for me), and you will need a PIN code they send you by snail mail if it exceeds $500, so be sure you don't have that much to withdraw unless you want to leave some money there.

Now that our bankroll is a bit bigger, there's a world of opportunity opening before us. Before going up in stakes thanks to the bonus, be sure you're ready for it. Currently, I feel like I crush the NL10 games so I'm very confident in moving up. If you're not, don't be afraid of playing overbankrolled, it's better than being underbankrolled. The next site is actually the first site I was planning to do, but I changed to the boss media network when I saw how fast it was there.

Bet365
This room is part of the prima network (like Battlefield, Royal Vegas, etc.). I first thought their software was ok, but I don't like it much now. The support is pretty good though. Something I really liked when I first started, is that prima probably has one of the lower rakes for micro limits NL players, it's absolutely awesome just for that (plus you can even have rakeback if you play on battlefield) : the pot is raked a little bit earlier, but the max the rake can reach is $0.07 for NL5 and $0.30 for NL10 and NL20, which is way less than on party. It gets normal for the higher stakes. The competition is pretty soft at these levels. Btw, if you already have an account on another of the prima rooms, it's not a problem, just don't lie about it when the software asks you and it's alright.

• $100 bonus on a $50 deposit
  
• 500 raked hands : you must have been dealt cards and the raked needs to reach $0.25
  
• Email support@customerservices365.com to release the bonus. If you're in a hurry, you can get the support on phone (no need to call them, they have a callback feature on the website to get them to call you) and it should be a matter of minutes.
  
• Since the rake is very low, so it can take quite some time to clear the bonus. I would say about 15% of hands at NL10 qualify and about 33% at NL20, so that makes 3000 hands played for NL10 or 1500 hands for NL20, which is very fast.
  
• 250 raked hands per month qualify you for a monthly $30,000 freeroll, which is pretty cool. It had about 3500 players in December. They also have weekly $5000 freeroll on saturdays if you're bored.
  
• Cashout : it's done directly from your Neteller account. You need to transfer your money from your poker account to your sports account (you do that in the Bank section in the software. Then, directly in your Neteller account :
  Transfer -> To/From Merchants -> Merchant code : BET34725 -> Transfer from -> choose the amount and put your bet365 username as Merchant Account ID. Only one cashout per month, or you'll pay a fee.

If you have 800€ (roughly 1000$), hit Martin's Poker next.

Martin's Poker

• 600€ bonus on a 600€ deposit. Bonus code : novdeposit
  
• 200€ bonus on a 200€ reload. Bonus code : novreload
  Total : 800€ on a 800€ deposit
  
• 50€ bonus for accumulating 3000 VIP in a month
  
• 25€ more if you're referred by a friend (and 25€ for the friend) for some very low VIP requirement. I can't confirm you can get it as well as the deposit bonus code. I've read you can (enter the friend's name on the signup page, then the deposit bonus when you deposit) and it works fine. If you're willing to test, you can enter that Catyoul referred you
  
• Depost bonus requires 3000 VIP points. Reload bonus requires 600 VIP points. You get 1 VIP point for each hand where the rake is > €0.30 (in NL, that makes €0.35 rake thus €7 pot). From my personal experience, you'll have roughly 20% of the hands over that at NL25. A wild extrapolation tells me 30% at NL50. So, count a total of 15k hands at NL25 or 10k hands at NL50.
  
• The cool thing is that both bonus clear concurrently, so while you're clearing your 3000 VIP points for the deposit bonus, you will clear the 600 VIP for the reload in the mean time. In clear, you need 3000 raked hands total, not 3000+600.
  
• The deposit bonus will be credited in your account 90 days after your deposit. You don't have to keep your money there that long though, when you have cleared the bonus, you can cash out and just wait for the bonus to come 3 months later.
  
• Game softness : said to be very soft during European evenings, much less during American ones.
  
• If your Neteller account is in $ (as it should be), you will have a 1.9% exchange fee when depositing and cashing out. It's trifling compared to the 100% bonus though.

Now, for the next sites, I haven't personnally tried them and I don't plan to, but I'll give you the information I could get anyway. I'm not even sure it's gonna be worth your time to get more bonus, compared to your bankroll by then.

Bodog
They offer a $100 upfront bonus on a $100 deposit, meaning that as soon as you deposit, you'll find the $100 in your account and you can play with them. You can't cash them out before having met the requirements though. You need 3 Bodog points for every $1, and you earn them based on the rake on the hands you've contributed to.

Rake Points $1.00 - $3.00 1.00 $0.50 - $0.95 0.50 $0.25 - $0.45 0.25 $0.05 - $0.20 0.10

The thing is that the rake is ultra low for NL10 on this site, and is capped at $0.10 for 6+ and even lower for 5- players. It's capped much higher at $1.50 for NL25 and $2.00 for NL50 then it gets normal. So if you're thinking of clearing this bonus, it's probably gonna take a long long time, but at least if you play there on NL10, you pay almost no rake. But if you enter tournaments there, you earn 3 point per $1 paid in fees, so it's basically a 100% rakeback for tournament players.

They don't seem to advertise that $100 promo, so you need a special link for it. I found one that doesn't seem affiliated to anyone : Bodog bonus.

They also offer a 10% bonus on any deposit (same 3 Bodog points per $1 bonus), uncapped, which could be interesting for high stakes players. If you want to hit it multiple times (deposit, earn bonus, withdraw, rinse and repeat), wait at least 4-7 days between withdrawal and deposit.

Paradise Poker
$50 bonus on $200 deposit. You need to play 500 hands over $0.25, can be relased every $10.

Aztec Riches (prima)
$50 bonus on $200 deposit. You need to pay $50 rake = 100% rakeback.

Poker Metro (prima)
$50 bonus on $200 deposit. You need to pay $50 rake = 100% rakeback.

Royal Vegas Poker (prima)
$10 upfront and $40 on a $100 deposit, you need to play 1400 raked hands for these.

I've also found a couple of there sites, completely unknown to me, that seem interesting :

Superior Poker (Action Poker network)
100% bonus, with no limit except the deposit limit (which is $3000 for neteller for example). You need 16 POP points per $1, which basically means $1 bonus for $1.6 rake thus 62.5% rakeback. The bonus is not incremental though, so you have to earn it all, or you earn nothing and there is a 45 days time limit. They also advertise up to 25% rakeback for big players.

Nine Poker (Action Poker network)
$150 on $100 deposit. The conversion rate is 12 POP points per $1, thus 80% rakeback, 60 days to clear the bonus.
It seems possible to get 25% rakeback here though

And the classics :

PartyPoker
Ah, good old party poker. I'm pretty sure you can get $100 bonus on a $500 reload, though I'm not quite sure how.

Empire Poker
$100 on $500 deposit, 500 raked hands too.

Doyles' Room
Lots of different possibilities here, you can vary the bonus depending on the clearance rate. Best I think is $135 on $400 deposit, for $135 rake paid.

That's about it, enjoy !


PS : Some of these offers may become outdated or may change (nine poker changed from 100% rakeback to 80% rakeback while I was editing the post !). I may have missed very interesting promotions too. If you have any suggestions or comments, don't hesitate to answer here or pm me.

Good post. Have you seen interpoker? They do the +90/month and you can get $300 using some codes or 30% rakeback.

Interpoker doesn't seem viable for small stakes I think :

The wagering required to clear your bonus to play in poker is 5 (five) times the bonus in raked hands. For example a $90 bonus will require only 450 raked hands to clear. A raked hand at InterPoker is defined as any hand where at least $1 (or £/€, depending on the table) is taken as rake. This is equivalent to a $20 pot (InterPoker takes 5% rake). Every hand you are dealt cards and the total pot is $20 or more, a raked hand will be counted towards your bonus. You do not have to contribute to the pot for the hand to be counted as raked. Further to this, every hand you play where between $0.25 and $0.99 (or £/€, depending on the table) rake is taken will count as 1/4 (one quarter) of a raked hand.

Reaching $1 rake doesn't happen very often at small stakes, so you'd need 20x the bonus in hands raked $0.25 and higher, that's very slow.

Hey Catyoul - that was a great post. Good work. Thanks for your efforts (though i don't have neteller or much of a BR at the moment) - but from the look of some of the threads around this site - quite a few people will be very interested to read this. It's very well written. Good on you mate.

On December 22 2005 04:27 Catyoul wrote: Interpoker doesn't seem viable for small stakes I think : Show nested quote + The wagering required to clear your bonus to play in poker is 5 (five) times the bonus in raked hands. For example a $90 bonus will require only 450 raked hands to clear. A raked hand at InterPoker is defined as any hand where at least $1 (or £/€, depending on the table) is taken as rake. This is equivalent to a $20 pot (InterPoker takes 5% rake). Every hand you are dealt cards and the total pot is $20 or more, a raked hand will be counted towards your bonus. You do not have to contribute to the pot for the hand to be counted as raked. Further to this, every hand you play where between $0.25 and $0.99 (or £/€, depending on the table) rake is taken will count as 1/4 (one quarter) of a raked hand. Reaching $1 rake doesn't happen very often at small stakes, so you'd need 20x the bonus in hands raked $0.25 and higher, that's very slow.

Ya so its gonna take 1800 raked hands for me to clear = as I play small stakes. I wish you woulda made this post before I deposited there =)

They send you a PIN in the mail that, without it, you can't withdraw any $$

Very good post. Great effort!

I'll look into it.

great effort, i am not into bonus whoring, but this makes it a lot clearer for some other people!

good work!

I am wondering about the whole PP saying you aren't a beginner anymore. I did the $75 too but they have yet to say I am not a beginner....anyone know what the factors are? i've been playing with the promotion for 19 days and I enjoy from time to time hoping onto the $10nl and raping.

Catyoul France. Today 04:27. Posts 140 PM Profile Buddy Quote
Interpoker doesn't seem viable for small stakes I think :

The wagering required to clear your bonus to play in poker is 5 (five) times the bonus in raked hands. For example a $90 bonus will require only 450 raked hands to clear.

A raked hand at InterPoker is defined as any hand where at least $1 (or £/€, depending on the table) is taken as rake. This is equivalent to a $20 pot (InterPoker takes 5% rake). Every hand you are dealt cards and the total pot is $20 or more, a raked hand will be counted towards your bonus. You do not have to contribute to the pot for the hand to be counted as raked.

Further to this, every hand you play where between $0.25 and $0.99 (or £/€, depending on the table) rake is taken will count as 1/4 (one quarter) of a raked hand.


Reaching $1 rake doesn't happen very often at small stakes, so you'd need 20x the bonus in hands raked $0.25 and higher, that's very slow.
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i guess u can clear this bonus quite easily by sitting down to play some higher stakes (say NL100) and just keep sitting there and watching, not playing at all, only posting blinds and maybe making some money with the most premium hands (AA,KK,QQ). if u "multitable" like that, u should be able to clear the bonus in day or two. but of course, its quite boring to keep sitting and not playing anything but AA,KK,QQ for several hours

On December 22 2005 19:40 Joe wrote: Catyoul France. Today 04:27. Posts 140 PM Profile Buddy Quote Interpoker doesn't seem viable for small stakes I think : The wagering required to clear your bonus to play in poker is 5 (five) times the bonus in raked hands. For example a $90 bonus will require only 450 raked hands to clear. A raked hand at InterPoker is defined as any hand where at least $1 (or £/€, depending on the table) is taken as rake. This is equivalent to a $20 pot (InterPoker takes 5% rake). Every hand you are dealt cards and the total pot is $20 or more, a raked hand will be counted towards your bonus. You do not have to contribute to the pot for the hand to be counted as raked. Further to this, every hand you play where between $0.25 and $0.99 (or £/€, depending on the table) rake is taken will count as 1/4 (one quarter) of a raked hand. Reaching $1 rake doesn't happen very often at small stakes, so you'd need 20x the bonus in hands raked $0.25 and higher, that's very slow. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- i guess u can clear this bonus quite easily by sitting down to play some higher stakes (say NL100) and just keep sitting there and watching, not playing at all, only posting blinds and maybe making some money with the most premium hands (AA,KK,QQ). if u "multitable" like that, u should be able to clear the bonus in day or two. but of course, its quite boring to keep sitting and not playing anything but AA,KK,QQ for several hours

I would be interested in seeing the result of someone trying that. I know that I have lost like $10 on interpoker on .25/.5 without playing a single hand. Those blinds go around and around...

On December 22 2005 18:28 Highcard wrote: I am wondering about the whole PP saying you aren't a beginner anymore. I did the $75 too but they have yet to say I am not a beginner....anyone know what the factors are? i've been playing with the promotion for 19 days and I enjoy from time to time hoping onto the $10nl and raping.

Its because you suck so much at poker^^ nah just kidding

Catyoul thank you for the great post. But how much money total you earned on this guide?

On December 22 2005 18:28 Highcard wrote: I am wondering about the whole PP saying you aren't a beginner anymore. I did the $75 too but they have yet to say I am not a beginner....anyone know what the factors are? i've been playing with the promotion for 19 days and I enjoy from time to time hoping onto the $10nl and raping.

It's 45 days since the day you have a real money account.

On December 22 2005 19:40 Joe wrote: i guess u can clear this bonus quite easily by sitting down to play some higher stakes (say NL100) and just keep sitting there and watching, not playing at all, only posting blinds and maybe making some money with the most premium hands (AA,KK,QQ). if u "multitable" like that, u should be able to clear the bonus in day or two. but of course, its quite boring to keep sitting and not playing anything but AA,KK,QQ for several hours

I guess you can, it doesn't interest me at all to do that though

On December 22 2005 20:25 Music86 wrote: Catyoul thank you for the great post. But how much money total you earned on this guide?

As I said, I'm still at the beginning. I received the cashout from casino.net yesterday, so at least I know that works. You should be able to get :

- in one week : 3x $100 bonus from the boss media sites, plus all the money you'll win on the tables. Let's say you'll earn around $500 including the bonus (assuming you don't catch a very bad run of cards). Maybe add $100 or so if I find how to play a 4th boss media site.
- in a few more days, let's say one week to be sure : $100 from bet365, plus the earnings, let's say $50 if it really doesn't go well.

So, in 2 weeks, that would be $650 profit, and a bankroll good for NL50 already. I'm not yet halfway through this and I'm at $350 profit.

does the bet365poker room require any kind of security code or whatever if you want to cashout? this has often been an unpleasant surprise for me when i've tried bonus whoring a site in the past


how about casino.net? free to cashout there?

I'll add a small section about whithdrawals :

For casino.net, under $500 you're fine :

The cashout from Casino.net for example isn't particularly fast (they say 1-4 days on their site, took about 2 days for me), and you will need a PIN code they send you by snail mail if it exceeds $500, so be sure you don't have that much to withdraw unless you want to leave some money there.

Sportingbet seems ok too, withdrawals should be < 24h according to them.

For bet365, you are allowed only one free cashout every 28 days ($15 for each additional cashout). In order to make a withdrawal with Neteller, you must transfer from the poker section to the sportsbook and then make a transfer request through your Neteller account : "transfer" tab -> "transfer to/from merchant" -> "transfer from". Enter these infos :

Merchant ID : BET34725 Amount Merchant account ID : your screen name at bet365

It should be pretty fast. Note that you have to claim the bonus, it won't get automatically in your account :

When you have cleared the bonus, you should email support, and I've read it can take a couple of days to have the bonus credited in your account. If you're in a hurry, you can get the support on phone (no need to call them, they have a callback feature on the website to get them to call you) and it should be a matter of minutes.

SportingOdds : I just checked with their live support, they don't accept Neteller as deposit or cash out method...

ty very much Catyoul

general question about bonus whoring. Whats the point? if cash in 100$, and are able to play 500-1k raked hands... and if u do this often on many sites, arent u making more money simpy by playing?

I don't really understand higher stakes bonus whoring, but for small stakes it can be a very significant income. In my case, I had to move to another site. Now I have two choices, for example moving to PokerStars or playing on sites with bonus. My choice of bonus sites and how I manage cashing out allows me to play exactly as much on them as if I was playing on Pokerstars, which also means I can't really make more money without the bonus.

Now after, let's say 10k hands, I'll have cashed $400-500 in bonus, and if I get a good run somewhere around the same amount through simply playing NL10. For a starting bankroll of about $200, it makes a huge difference. The bonus are always around $100 or so, which is very signifcant when it means 10 buyins to you, but gets silly when it's just 1 or 2 buyins. When you go up in stakes, I don't see much point in doing this though, I'd rather stick with a site I like or with a good rakeback deal than chase a trifling bonus.

i guess it would be too much work for me -.-

Catyoul for admin!

(seriously)

yes, thx catyoul for ur info, its kinda handy.
i will be in the same situation as u were on PP in about 10-14 days (dunno exactly), the only difference is that i already managed to make my BR to almost $300 and if i will keep being lucky i can make it to $400 before my beginner status expires.
i dont know yet how i will decide, but ur article is really usefull for me. now it seems to me that i will take about $100 off my BR to hunt some smaller and easy-to-clear (=no more than 3 days normal gaming) while i will keepin playing on PP NL25 with ~300$ BR, which seems quite ok to me now...
and if i go for the bonuses, i will probably try sportingbet.com, because its in my native language and it offers a direct bank-account transfer to accounts in my country so if u can give me any additional info about sportingbet.com, the software, the level of players, the difficultness of the bonus-clearence, etc it would be very welcome

Everything in the "Boss Media" part applies to sportingbet
More specifically :

• Software : really bad
  
• Level of players : about as bad as the software lol
  
• Bonus-clearing : super easy

catyoul i read the terms & conditions on sportingbet and i they say that u have to play on $1/$2 tables to clear the bonus. how is that at casino.net? is it the same or can u play any stakes to clear it?

The T&C is bullshit and copied/pasted on all boss media sites, don't worry. It works at any stakes.

i would like to suggest that catyoul not only be made an admin but also that he get his own section. If this site had a well maintained bonus hitting section, I'm pretty sure it would help the site grow quite a bit.

I appreciate but honestly I think that's too much honor
As for the bonus section, I think we have the chance to have such quality posters on this forum it's better to take that chance to learn the game as deeply as possible rather than resort to bonus whoring.

I agree that playing better is more important. I just think making a section out of this would be useful in other ways, including helping this site grow.

hm i just tried to create an account at casino.net but they told me it is not allowed for people from my country (czech republic) to have an account at them.
anyway, there is anotherm "skin" - www.sportingbet.cz. its primarily in czech language (the website) but the conditions are all the same.

EDIT: + you get another 20% first deposit bonus

Thanks for the info catyoul, i was not aware that PP will kick me off the Beginners tables after some time, bastards. Im too crap to play higher, lol.

So i think I will bonus whore one site then transfer it all back to Stars where i usually play, l will probably have $100 to $200 , where do you suggest i go? The Boss Media network looks promising.

Big Jono: without hesitation, do 3 boss media sites and then go play on Stars

I'll update the first post as soon as I have some time.

So do the bonus on 3 of their sites you mean, one after the other?

Thanks for your advice mate.

nice chunk of information for those who want to bonus whore it up

This post needs an update. It seems that with the new year, some of the Boss Media sites have changed their policy.
Sporting Bet doesn't offer the bonus anymore (or I couldn't find it) and Trio Poker changed the 500 raked hands to a $200 payed in rake, leaving only Casino.net as a very good site for NL10. I'll try to update this when I'm home tonight.

as i already wrote, sportingbet.cz has the same offer as casino.net (only it is in czech language, but i am sure u can overcome that )

great article! very usefull Im going to check all the sites out and see how i can bonuswhore some of the sites to start the real poker gaming

First post updated

I just cleared my first one through Gala (part of the Boss network). It took awhile since I don't play that much but it was worth it as the players really suck on the Boss network.

I should've tried some of the $100 for 500 contributed hands. Thats what I'm gonna do after my cash out clears.

Request, if you would be so kind! I think it would be useful to note what the best all-around depositing/cashing out method would be. That is, what is the most widely accepted service, and which has zero/very low fees? It seems like NETeller is good, so you can just make one deposit then continually transfer from one site to the next while clearing lots of bonuses without any fees but one.

Also, if anyone does this and is able to build enough of a roll to graduate to mid-stakes, how about following up with a mid-stakes bonus guide, for larger bonuses like 100% at FullTilt and TitanPoker? If somebody starts with $200 or so and builds through these bonuses to $2000, then he can hit a few larger bonuses (fairly easy to clear at .5/1 or 1/2) and maybe double his roll. $4000 from $200!

Neteller has pretty much 0 fee while you're transferring from one poker site to another, but I have not yet cashed out any poker money, and that's where I'm probably going to pay a small fee (at least for the conversion CAD -> EURO).

There is a great deposit bonus at Martin's Poker going on right now (it was even better a couple of days ago, but it's done now), for 600€ (about 750$), that clears pretty easily. I'll write about it as soon as I can confirm it's still up.

After looking around a bit, I think it's far better to just use as many reload bonuses as possible to continue building a roll toward mid stakes. Big deposit bonuses like those at TitanPoker, FullTilt, EuroBet, and NoblePoker are basically impossible to clear unless you play 5/10 or higher. Martin's Poker I'm not sure about.

The 100% deposit bonus on MartinsPoker is real! It's fairly easy to clear for such a high bonus as well. They sent me via e-mail, that you need 5 VIP points per EURO of bonus. So, for a 600 euro bonus, you need 3000 VIP points.

One VIP point is awared for every hand in which you were dealt cards and the rake reached 0.31 euro.

Deposit code: "novdeposit"

Rake Structure:

No Limit, Pot Limit and ½Pot Limit
€ 0.05 per € 1.00 and capped at € 0.75 for 2-3 players, € 2.00 for 4-5 players and € 3,00 for 6-10 players.

Fixed Limit and Spread Limit (€0.1/€0.20 to €0.50/€1.00)
€ 0.05 per € 1.00 and capped at € 0.75 for 2-3 players and € 1.00 for 4-10 players.

Fixed Limit and Spread Limit (€1.00/€2.00)
€ 0.25 per € 5.00 and capped at € 0.75 for 2-3 players and € 2.00 for 4-10 players.

Fixed Limit and Spread Limit (€2.00/€4.00 and up)
€ 0.50 per € 10.00 and capped at € 0.75 for 2-3 players and € 2.00 for 4-10 players.

So...just play $100NL full-ring ultra tight for a few days? :D

You should have about 20% raked hands in NL25 and about 30-35% in NL50 (wild extrapolation for NL50), so it's doable even below NL100

anybody tried this at martinspoker already? i' m just signing up!

tell us how soft it is

Boss network is extremely soft at NL10 and NL25. I am interested in seeing what network martinspoker is on and the skill level there.

Martin's is on B2B.
The games are said to be very soft during European evenings, but not during the US evenings.

Things to note :

• If your Neteller account is in $ (as it should be), you will have a 1.9% exchange fee when depositing and cashing out. It's trifling compared to the 100% bonus though.
  
• The deposit bonus will be credited in your account 90 days after your deposit. You don't have to keep your money there that long though, when you have cleared the bonus, you can cash out and just wait for the bonus to come 3 months later.

Catyoul, you're awesome. Thanks so much for all of this...without this little page I'd be in a very uncomfortable financial situation for the semester! (Spending/Earning ratio is horrible having to support myself and my girlfriend who only has minimal job hours).

Has anybody else been ineligible for instaCASH with NETeller on their first attempt? Every other service I've used -- IGMPay, Click2Pay, FirePay -- has allowed me to make instant transactions and has been able to verify my identity with security questions. For some reason, NETeller can't do it.

Anyone else had this issue?

On January 26 2006 10:21 ibsu wrote: tell us how soft it is

yep gonna tell you soon!

On January 26 2006 10:52 Catyoul wrote: Martin's is on B2B. The games are said to be very soft during European evenings, but not during the US evenings. Things to note : If your Neteller account is in $ (as it should be), you will have a 1.9% exchange fee when depositing and cashing out. It's trifling compared to the 100% bonus though. The deposit bonus will be credited in your account 90 days after your deposit. You don't have to keep your money there that long though, when you have cleared the bonus, you can cash out and just wait for the bonus to come 3 months later.

my neteller account is in €. is there any way to change it to $? how high is the exchange fee for depositing and cashing out when my account is set to €?

If your neteller account is in € you won't have any fees with Martin's poker, because it is in € too. However, you will have the 1.9% with any poker site in $. I'm not sure what the procedure would be to change your account currency, ask neteller support I guesS.

Catyoul, huge thanks for doing this. We'll have to chip in with the boys and get you something for all this

Now for the suggestions... could you split the sites according to how small stakes you need to be EFFECTIVELY playing them (raked hand for each flop with min players) and maybe a rough estimate to clear the whole thing. Just on a scale of a few hours to many weeks.

http://www.casino.net/en/promotions/signup.htm

Did anyone try this?

"All you have to do is to download our casino and make a first deposit of $20 or more, and the Bonus will be deposited into your account immediately. This bonus offer is only valid for your first deposit."

Does anyone know what it takes to clear, if it takes anything?

Zorglub : that's for their casino, not for poker.

Durandal : my pleasure. I owe enough to this community I might as well give what I can too I'll try to include your suggestion in the next update.

I just hit up the Bodog bonus using that link, but I didn't get credited with the bonus. I got the $10 bonus instead, and I emailed customer service and eventually had to call them to get the bonus. Guy I spoke to kept denying the bonus, but I showed him the link and he finally took away my $10 and gave me a $100 bonus. So if you deposit and you get a $10 bonus, you gotta call them. Just a heads up for you guys.

I cant vouch for whether or not this works but here it says that you can get 30% deposit bonus up to $150 if you use bonus code "ALEXMAX" when signing up for EmpirePoker. A friend is currently trying it and its apparently easy to clear, so that might be helpfull if your bankroll is~$500. Ill let you know if it worked for my friend.

ps: It runs out at the end of the month so you better hurry up if youre going to do it .

I've opened an account on casino.net but I have a very large problem. When I go into cashier it gives me this error:


The page must be viewed with a high-security Web browser
The resource you are trying to access is secured with a 128-bit version of Secure Sockets Layer (SSL). In order to view this resource, you need a browser that supports this version of SSL.
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Please try the following:

Contact the Web site administrator if your Web browser does support 128-bit encryption, or if you believe you should be able to view this directory or page.
Upgrade your Web browser to a version that supports 128-bit encryption.
HTTP Error 403.5 - Forbidden: SSL 128 is required to view this resource.
Internet Information Services (IIS)

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Technical Information (for support personnel)

Go to Microsoft Product Support Services and perform a title search for the words HTTP and 403.
Open IIS Help, which is accessible in IIS Manager (inetmgr), and search for topics titled About Security, Secure Sockets Layer (SSL), Setting Encryption Strength, and About Custom Error Messages.


Anybody had this? Anybody knows what too do? I have IE 6.0 and every other page that is secured worked fine for me. I would be gratefull for some help^^

hm dunno about this error, maybe u should try it with firefox.

I've just tried myself, the cashier worked fine for me. You may try to contact the WebDollar support maybe :

Contact The WebDollar Customer Support team is at your service 24 hours a day, everyday, to address your questions regarding payments as quickly as possible. If you have any questions regarding your transactions, contact WebDollar Customer Support by e-mail or one of the phone numbers listed below. Toll-Free Customer Support: Austria 0800 677 199 Spain 800 2677 0000 Canada 1 866 394 4441 Switzerland 800 2677 0000 France 800 2677 0000 Great Britain 800 2677 0000 Germany 800 2677 0000 USA 1 866 803 0411 Italy 800 986 233 Support Number (toll call): + 46 470 705750 Customer Support by E-Mail: info@webdollar.com

Update on Martin's Poker. It's a very sweet 800€ bonus :

Martin's Poker

• 600€ bonus on a 600€ deposit. Bonus code : novdeposit
  
• 200€ bonus on a 200€ reload. Bonus code : novreload
  Total : 800€ on a 800€ deposit
  
• 50€ bonus for accumulating 3000 VIP in a month
  
• 25€ more if you're referred by a friend (and 25€ for the friend) for some very low VIP requirement. I can't confirm you can get it as well as the deposit bonus code. I've read you can (enter the friend's name on the signup page, then the deposit bonus when you deposit) and it works fine. If you're willing to test, you can enter that Catyoul referred you
  
• Depost bonus requires 3000 VIP points. Reload bonus requires 600 VIP points. You get 1 VIP point for each hand where the rake is > €0.30 (in NL, that makes €0.35 rake thus €7 pot). From my personal experience, you'll have roughly 20% of the hands over that at NL25. A wild extrapolation tells me 30% at NL50. So, count a total of 15k hands at NL25 or 10k hands at NL50.
  
• The cool thing is that both bonus clear concurrently, so while you're clearing your 3000 VIP points for the deposit bonus, you will clear the 600 VIP for the reload in the mean time. In clear, you need 3000 raked hands total, not 3000+600.
  
• The deposit bonus will be credited in your account 90 days after your deposit. You don't have to keep your money there that long though, when you have cleared the bonus, you can cash out and just wait for the bonus to come 3 months later.
  
• Game softness : said to be very soft during European evenings, much less during American ones.
  
• If your Neteller account is in $ (as it should be), you will have a 1.9% exchange fee when depositing and cashing out. It's trifling compared to the 100% bonus though.

uh
1.9% * e800 + 1.9% * e1000 + 1.9% * e800 = at least e50 exchange fee? am i rite? isn't there another way to deposit/withdraw? -.-a

If you can deposit directly in € (bank or credit card), sure go ahead. If you can't, consider it's a 750€ bonus

PS : I advise you to hit it while it's still hot and alive. There's no way to tell when it will be gone or when they will change the conditions (increasing the number of VIP points for example).

Casino.net has $100 player bonus on poker site, and $200 bonus on casino site... wonder if you could register through the casino and play poker with the same account.. if anyone of you have the poker account made, check if you can use the money to play the casino tables plz.

IMPORTANT UPDATE
B2B network fixed the concurrently clearing bonus (it was a glitch apparently), so you need 3000 VIP for the novdeposit, 600 VIP for the novreload and 200 VIP for the "referred by a friend" bonus (which I've been told works fine, just enter the friend's name (that is Catyoul ) on signup and the bonus code novdeposit on your first deposit).
The 30€ for playing a certain amount of time is a cashback system (edit: credited automatically at the end of the month).

Total : 3800 VIP for 600€ + 200€ + 25€ + 30€ = 855€

Still pretty damn nice

The software isn't the best you will find, especially for multitabling, but whatever... (don't forget to disable the animations in the menu)

I just whored casino.net

I deposited $250, and played mostly $50NL tables.. I started with full ring and then moved to 5-handed, even tho I don't really know how to play SH. After 2 hours of full ring and maybe 3 hours of SH, I cleared the shit, and ended up with $600 on my account. The whole time, I pretty much played around ~70vpip, and you won't believe how shitty these players are... I won multiple all-ins when the guys went with bottom pair on flop.. they're bluffing into straight+flush boards.. they'll call pot-sized bets with inside draw.. This was the most boring poker session I've ever had. And the client was 100% lobotomy xD

I recommend this for anyone, who wants to practice anger management. If you can finish this thing in one sitting without getting mad at the players/software, you're getting tilt-proof -_-v

Oh, don't try to make them fold. It just... won't work. I mean seriously. If that flush card arrives after he calls 2x potsize, just move along.

On February 02 2006 06:41 Durandal wrote: I just whored casino.net I deposited $250, and played mostly NL tables.. I started with full ring and then moved to 5-handed, even tho I don't really know how to play SH. After 2 hours of full ring and maybe 3 hours of SH, I cleared the shit, and ended up with $600 on my account. The whole time, I pretty much played around ~70vpip, and you won't believe how shitty these players are... I won multiple all-ins when the guys went with bottom pair on flop.. they're bluffing into straight+flush boards.. they'll call pot-sized bets with inside draw.. This was the most boring poker session I've ever had. And the client was 100% lobotomy xD I recommend this for anyone, who wants to practice anger management. If you can finish this thing in one sitting without getting mad at the players/software, you're getting tilt-proof -_-v Oh, don't try to make them fold. It just... won't work. I mean seriously. If that flush card arrives after he calls 2x potsize, just move along.

so fast?? what stakes did u play? NL25? btw how exactly did u make it profitable while having ~70% VP$IP? it seems quite ALOT on these types of tables

$50NL tables mostly... it's profitable when you can feel when you have the best hand, and when you don't. Just look through Harrington's book on super aggressive style.. you want to be using that one, so you get most of your hands counted as raked. Of course I folded most of the hands on flop

I'm doing pretty crappy on Casino.net even though when I did a different host on same network, I did better than fine. I don't want to whine about bad beats but this time around has been just terrible for me.

party had a reload 15% up to 75 but its killed now, however if u email them by the end of today theyll give you a special comp bonus 15% up to 75 at 5x

On February 02 2006 06:41 Durandal wrote: I just whored casino.net I deposited $250, and played mostly $50NL tables.. I started with full ring and then moved to 5-handed, even tho I don't really know how to play SH. After 2 hours of full ring and maybe 3 hours of SH, I cleared the shit, and ended up with $600 on my account. The whole time, I pretty much played around ~70vpip, and you won't believe how shitty these players are... I won multiple all-ins when the guys went with bottom pair on flop.. they're bluffing into straight+flush boards.. they'll call pot-sized bets with inside draw.. This was the most boring poker session I've ever had. And the client was 100% lobotomy xD I recommend this for anyone, who wants to practice anger management. If you can finish this thing in one sitting without getting mad at the players/software, you're getting tilt-proof -_-v Oh, don't try to make them fold. It just... won't work. I mean seriously. If that flush card arrives after he calls 2x potsize, just move along.

hehe i di this a while ago as well, but i only deposited 50$, and played the 10$ NL tables. after 2 day i was done with it, cleared the bonus + won like 100$ as well, never have seen softer competition before. Partypoker players are gods compared to those guys.

Yeah, the Boss Media network is soft as hell.

For Martin's poker, I suggest you get this software too : http://www.billnet.nu/hhgetter/
It automatically gets your hand histories from the website while you're playing (if you have tried martin's, you will understand why it's useful), you can use pokertracker too this way.

It's limited to importing 1000 hands though, 7$ to buy the program otherwise.

The problem with a network as soft as the boss network is that you will have heavy swings. I did two so far and the first time, I deposited $50 and withdrew $300. The second time I deposited $50 and withdrew $100 - essentially losing my deposit and only withdrawing the bonus.

I started grinding the Martinspoker bonus today, playing $100NL ... first impressions:

* It's slow as hell, you won't see a lot of action here..
* The opponents use maphack, and raise 95% of your continuation bets.
* Every time you get a tptk and you bet it for value, someone comes with an absurd reraise.. of course I fold because of set danger.
* The software is uglier than Maggy Thatcher. Go figure -_-
* There's only 1-2 8-handed tables per stakes, the rest are 6-handed. There are no 10-handed tables.

Trust me when I say this: this is just another site where nobody would play without the mad bonus -_-

On February 03 2006 10:29 Durandal wrote: I started grinding the Martinspoker bonus today, playing $100NL ... first impressions: * It's slow as hell, you won't see a lot of action here.. * The opponents use maphack, and raise 95% of your continuation bets. * Every time you get a tptk and you bet it for value, someone comes with an absurd reraise.. of course I fold because of set danger. * The software is uglier than Maggy Thatcher. Go figure -_- * There's only 1-2 8-handed tables per stakes, the rest are 6-handed. There are no 10-handed tables. Trust me when I say this: this is just another site where nobody would play without the mad bonus -_-

Is it going to be insanely hard to clear? Or are there enough tables to just sit, play tight, and let 3000 $7 pots happen?

it goes pretty fast to clear for me, im playing 50$NL atm.

playing like 1h, already have 151 points cleared

e:
but i have alot of bad beats, thats fucking RIGGED

with the $100 on casino.net - can you tell me if this is for 100 deposit or can it be 50 / 75 deposit?

You can deposit 50

[vital]Myth: Martins goes fairly quickly. 4-tabling NL50 gets me a 11-12 €/hour in bonus, thus about 65 hours of play to clear it.
Verbloten: I confirm roald's answer, you can deposit 50 it's ok.

I wanna try that Martin's poker bonus but 3 months for it to clear!?

Thats crazy I'll forget about it by then

Thanks guys - can you tell me what is the lowest limit and how big pot needs to be for it to be considered raked?

Roald : I don't care if it takes 3 months, once the bonus is done, I'm out of the site (barring I really like it) and in a couple of months i get the money. They don't forget it and it doesn't change that much from getting it now for me

Verbloten : any limit is good

The requirement to get those $100 varies from one room to another. Most of them work on a contributed raked hands basis : you have to play a certain amout of hands that were raked (even 1c rake is enough) AND where you put money in the pot. If you're going to play NL, as soon as the pot reaches $1 it's raked, and let me tell you this happens often. If you want to find out how many raked hands you have, just try live help or ask support by mail.

great! i just deposited on casino.net and of course in my balances screen - it doesn't show anything in the pending bonus balance section - i hope this is normal!! I expected to see $100 in here!

Oh ?
It always showed Pending bonus : 100$ on the top right of the main lobby for me. Maybe contact customer support ?

yeh i have - still waiting!! aarrrgghhh
even though i must say i made a bad call to suss them out - with AJ i raised to 40 and was raised to 2 dollars by this guy who went all in. i called! bad call - but got the ace on the flop and won the hand - he has Q9o - and then i noticed some other guy called too lol - and i beat him too so... that was a nice start...

i hope i didn't need to deposit 100 otherwise i will be kicking myself!!! i only deposited 75

also - whats the story when you load a table and it says loading and then just closes down?

On February 07 2006 20:53 Catyoul wrote: Oh ? It always showed Pending bonus : 100$ on the top right of the main lobby for me. Maybe contact customer support ?

How much did you deposit ?
Also, is it advisable to play micro limits to clear the bonus ?

Do you get the martinspoker bonus 90days after deposit, or 90days after clearing the bonus?

I deposited 50, and got the 100 pending bonus right away :D
Now with only 50, what do you guys recomend me to do ?
Wich stakes, and can you tell me aprox, how much time will I take me to clear the bonus ?

EDIT : where can I see how many valid raked hands i have played ?

Verbloten : for the table loading, just try again lol.
Durandal : after deposit
Markonio : NL10 should do the trick. Depends on how many tables you play, and if it's full ring or SH, but something like 10 hours to clear it sounds reasonable. You can mail support or ask live support (when it works haha) for your raked hands. The first 30$ will arrive automagically, the last 70$ may require you quit a table or exit the software to appear once you've reached the 500 hands.

NL 10 huh.

That is the NL 0.05/0.10 tables right ?

And Multitabling, My BR in this site is only 50, 2-3 tables maybe ?

Damn, their support suck.

Live help doesen`t work, and when I try to email them, I get an instant answer saying ther`s an error = /

MarKonio i did the same, i deposited just 50$ there and played at start 2 tables of NL10. then i just 4 tabled the 005 010 tables.i must say this site is a goldmine, players there are so bad, that i made 10 buyins during the 2 days i needed to clear the bonus!

On February 08 2006 09:18 BiTa wrote: MarKonio i did the same, i deposited just 50$ there and played at start 2 tables of NL10. then i just 4 tabled the 005 010 tables.i must say this site is a goldmine, players there are so bad, that i made 10 buyins during the 2 days i needed to clear the bonus!

It coulda gone the other way too. When people suck that bad, there will be MANY suckouts.

Either way, both times I did it I played 4x .5/.10 NL with a $50 deposit and never felt like there was a danger in going broke

damn, can`t email this guys.

I have tried alot of times and i get an autoresponse with some error.

Hi. This is the qmail-send program at mail_gib.stenodoc.com.
I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses.
This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.

<net@pokerresponse.com>:
Sorry, no mailbox here by that name. vpopmail (#5.1.1)

--- Below this line is a copy of the message.


etc etc


=/

Haha guys - this site is really bad - the support is woeful!! They have a talk live to customer service option which doesn't work and yes when you email you get failed to deliver messages. I have sent 5 emails - no response. I finally have a response this morning to my first email about not getting my pending bonus and they said:

On some occasions it can happen that the software does not recognize your first deposit in relation to your pending deposit bonus.

However, I can ensure you that you can apply for the following raked hands bonus:

- $30 for 100 raked hands
- $70 for 500 raked hands

Unfortunately it is for our customers not possible to see their raked ahnds total themselves. Please contact by us email, live chat or telephone and we are more than happy to inform you about your raked hands total.

So now i don't even know if i for some reason need to "apply" for it - or whether their english is just so bad that they actually mean i am eligible for it?

I think it means you can clear it anyway.

what site is it Markonio ? The support mail for casino.net should be poker@casino.net
I've emailed them in the past and it worked (though they're not the fastest lol). You could also try casinonet@pokerresponse.com

And the live chat works sometimes, but I don't know when lol

its hypocritical for me to say this but just play and the bonus will show up. I also emailed them and never got a response. The bonus will show up

I will do that.

I just wanted to see what my progres was after 3 hours of play.

On February 08 2006 16:15 Roald wrote: its hypocritical for me to say this but just play and the bonus will show up. I also emailed them and never got a response. The bonus will show up

How long did it take you mate? Cause if i haven't done 100 hands i must have done like 95 - and i still haven't seen any of the bonus... i don't trust these sites! specially ones that never answer your emails!

But anyway - great site for softness!!! I played a sit and go earlier and won it - first time out - they were pretty soft - easier than pokerstars for sure. I can't tell you how many times i will raise PF with AK, get bet into on the flop (where i miss) and check to the river only to be bet at again (about 1/10th the pot size). Insta call and always win - it's their way of bluffing one more time on the river!

well i got the first $30 bonus after 450 hands, only 100 were raked (too low I think), i will go for the $70 now :D

The casino.net bonus will just show up on your account once you're done. Don't sweat about it, just focus on your game -_-b

On February 08 2006 19:09 Verbloten wrote: Show nested quote + On February 08 2006 16:15 Roald wrote: its hypocritical for me to say this but just play and the bonus will show up. I also emailed them and never got a response. The bonus will show up How long did it take you mate? Cause if i haven't done 100 hands i must have done like 95 - and i still haven't seen any of the bonus... i don't trust these sites! specially ones that never answer your emails! But anyway - great site for softness!!! I played a sit and go earlier and won it - first time out - they were pretty soft - easier than pokerstars for sure. I can't tell you how many times i will raise PF with AK, get bet into on the flop (where i miss) and check to the river only to be bet at again (about 1/10th the pot size). Insta call and always win - it's their way of bluffing one more time on the river!

6 table nl 10 will take you about 8 hours


edit: BTW the sportingbet thing doesnt work anymore at all. I just tried it and there is no pending bonus in my account

Ok I passed 1k VIP mark at martinspoker... after a rocky start (-400, just 2 very unlucky sessions) I'm 200 up from my original deposit, plus 200 reload which released at 600VIP. I've been playing $100NL, mostly 8-handed, but some 6-handed too.

Some observations:

* These guys are very tight preflop. Betting the standard 4BB (+1BB per limper) preflop will get you only the blinds. I mean seriously. I've adjusted my game so, that I raise my marginal hands (A8o, QJ) and do something else with the good ones, depending on the situation.

* There's no hand history/pokertracker/GT+ easily available. I'm not gonna fight windmills to get that shit thought.

* Their postflop play is very sheepish. They call bigger raises with draw hands, one pair etc than party players. So if you're putting in 2/3, they're VALUE CALLING their open-ended. This makes up for the fact that you can't get them to play raised pots.

* Very often, the hands I'm losing to, is two pair. As you know, two pair is a luck hand. So don't exclude the option that they're raising you with K3.

* They overplay high pairs to a ridiculous degree, compared to same stakes party players. So, set farming is ftw here.


Overall, I give this whoring a 7. The game is boring grinding, the client is annoying and the players are zzzz. I won't be whoring this again by registering an account to family member's name etc.

Suggested stakes to play to effectively clear: $200NL and $400NL

Saving hand histories is now included without 3rd party software (though I still use it for convenience) after their last software upgrade, so PT should be working fine with this.

just for info:
I just cleared the BET365.com $100 first deposit bonus.
I have to say its pretty easy and fast if u play NL50 (or higher of course). It took me about 7-8 hours of play (2 sessions in one day).
The competition is soft enough, just as party NL50. (Only they are maybe little less likely to go allin preflop with shit, which is very common at party NL50).
The software is good for me (oh well, i was quite used to it from previous play at prima network).
Good thing is that you can always check ur amount of raked hands without having to email them.

I have emailed them and now i am just waiting for them to give me the bonus. Hope it wont take long.
So if there isnt any problem with getting the bonus/withdrawing, i can say, that it was just a good one day distraction from the party stereotype, i made a (little) above average day profit of 110$ + the bonus of 100$, which gives me nice 210$ net profit for today

UPDATE: the money came with no problems

has anyone tried doyles room 35% deposit bonus? how hard is it to clear playing micro stakes?

Ok... i finished clearing the bonus - they were great - i went in with $75 cleared $100 bonus and now have $255. I would have had closer to 300 but took a bit of a beat late yesterday! So needless to say, the competition is very soft. I will be leaving money there for sure because i actually like the site - nice tables, soft competition and tourneys (shorthanded too which u don't get at stars).

Overall for a micro player (i played 10NL their lowest limit) i would thoroughly recommend you do this bonus. As i said - $75 was way enough for me to clear it and it probably took me about 6-8 hours playing 3 tables.

EDIT: And now i don't know where to go - everywhere else looks like i would need to play way outside my BR in order to clear the bonus... so i guess i go back to the grind for a while... if anyone has any ideas though for micro player like me - let me know!

Try the "other" sportingbet sites. Most seem to still offer the bonus

for anyone with a 200$ br paradise poker is an option for a 100$ bonus(usualy its 25% up to 50 but use code POKERNEWS or others you can find for 50% up to 100)

i deposited 200 and played the NL25 tables for 3 days and cleared this bonus (average 4-5 hours 3 tabling NL25)

the site is super soft and i cashed out 680 (100 bonus and 380 in winnings on the tables)


the software is horrible and feels really choppy, i also dont like the way the cards come up all instantly


but other than that the players are soft and if you go on a good streak you can easily come out of there with 200$ profit including the bonus

i just cashed out today to netteller and ill update how long the cashout took


dont know were ill be heading next, but most likely doyles room


edit: i forgot to mention that i only play short handed, so i played 3 5max tables of NL25 and 1 fullring .50/1 limit table

On February 17 2006 15:39 Ghostridah wrote: for anyone with a 200$ br paradise poker is an option for a 100$ bonus(usualy its 25% up to 50 but use code POKERNEWS or others you can find for 50% up to 100) i deposited 200 and played the NL25 tables for 3 days and cleared this bonus (average 4-5 hours 3 tabling NL25) the site is super soft and i cashed out 680 (100 bonus and 380 in winnings on the tables) the software is horrible and feels really choppy, i also dont like the way the cards come up all instantly but other than that the players are soft and if you go on a good streak you can easily come out of there with 200$ profit including the bonus i just cashed out today to netteller and ill update how long the cashout took dont know were ill be heading next, but most likely doyles room edit: i forgot to mention that i only play short handed, so i played 3 5max tables of NL25 and 1 fullring .50/1 limit table

yea, i cleared this recently too, it took me ~6 hours of playing NL50. easy money.

I finished Martinspoker yesterday. All I can say is, I feel fucking cheated. My luck muhwelized at the start, and multiple points I was sure the other players saw my pocket cards

Strangely, I felt the players were much worse than at party. They always drew at incorrect odds, but I swear to fucking christ they caught gutshot 80% of the time. That place is a bunch of fucking two pair and gutshot farmers. Out of my ~50 sets last session, only a few got paid. So that pretty much sums my luck... 0 action on my good hands, and incredible outdraws on the rest. It was horrible to play there psychologically... all you saw was guys calling potsized bets on each street, and then getting a runner runner gutshot to whatever bullshit straight they were going to. I think they intentionally make the gutshots hit, so players would bet more --> more rake. >

So I'm very dissapointed in how it turned out, EV- for me. But I'll still make positive after I get the deposit bonus in 2.5 months. Also, I couldn't find anything I could use the VIP's on. I'm not gonna be clearing that place again with my family member's name, nor any of the other B2B sites which offer the same bonus.

So, in short, it was heaven but you got unlucky ?
On martin's you can use the VIP points to enter tournaments, I think the rate is 1$ = 100VIP or something like that

Just cleared casino.net

Took me 4 days, 2~3 hours each day.

Deposited $50,cashed out $200.

You guys where right, it was very easy.

I will try another one now.

On February 18 2006 00:58 Durandal wrote: I finished Martinspoker yesterday. All I can say is, I feel fucking cheated. My luck muhwelized at the start, and multiple points I was sure the other players saw my pocket cards Strangely, I felt the players were much worse than at party. They always drew at incorrect odds, but I swear to fucking christ they caught gutshot 80% of the time. That place is a bunch of fucking two pair and gutshot farmers. Out of my ~50 sets last session, only a few got paid. So that pretty much sums my luck... 0 action on my good hands, and incredible outdraws on the rest. It was horrible to play there psychologically... all you saw was guys calling potsized bets on each street, and then getting a runner runner gutshot to whatever bullshit straight they were going to. I think they intentionally make the gutshots hit, so players would bet more --> more rake. > So I'm very dissapointed in how it turned out, EV- for me. But I'll still make positive after I get the deposit bonus in 2.5 months. Also, I couldn't find anything I could use the VIP's on. I'm not gonna be clearing that place again with my family member's name, nor any of the other B2B sites which offer the same bonus.

same here, i started out with 600€, dropped down to 180€ in some incredible unlucky sessions, then i slowly rebuilt to 580€, only to get down again to like 360€ now. feels so annoying.

i am at 2K vip soon, im really annoyed by the software, the horrible suckouts and the players on this site

Uhm why cant i pick sweden as my country when i register at casino.net? They have the fking vatican but not sweden T_T. Do i need the right adress to withdraw less than $500?

casino.net doesnt work with players from sweden.

e: but you dont need the right adress to withdraw less than 500$, however it could be that they block your account if they find out that you are from sweden before you managed to clear the bonus.

On February 20 2006 04:06 SakiSaki wrote: Uhm why cant i pick sweden as my country when i register at casino.net? They have the fking vatican but not sweden T_T. Do i need the right adress to withdraw less than $500?

I doubt you need the right address for < 500. Nothing of mine was verified at all.

Can anyone confirm if the Sporting Bet 30+70 bonus still works ?

There is nothing on their site.

Can anyone confirm that bet365 works at NL10? Cause in terms and conditions it says something about playing with atleast $50 as stakes.

On February 20 2006 08:08 SakiSaki wrote: Can anyone confirm that bet365 works at NL10? Cause in terms and conditions it says something about playing with atleast $50 as stakes.

That's for casino betting, NOT poker. At NL10/NL20 it'll work, it just takes a while.

On February 20 2006 07:59 MarKoNiO wrote: Can anyone confirm if the Sporting Bet 30+70 bonus still works ? There is nothing on their site.

Try on the "other sites" of the same group, in different languages. They still offer it all.

are there also good bonuses up to 600? :o

On February 20 2006 07:59 MarKoNiO wrote: Can anyone confirm if the Sporting Bet 30+70 bonus still works ? There is nothing on their site.

i can confirm that it doesnt in english.

On February 20 2006 08:08 SakiSaki wrote: Can anyone confirm that bet365 works at NL10? Cause in terms and conditions it says something about playing with atleast $50 as stakes.

dunno about the terms, but its not very good bonus for NL10. go for it if u play at least NL25 or rather NL50. then its quite cost-time-effective

does anyone know how to check how many more hands I need to play at casino.net to clear the bonus? can i play this at any limit, even .25/.50 limit holdem? I emailed their support but it didn't even reach them... mailer daemon'd back.. this is kinda shady

On March 07 2006 15:37 requiem wrote: does anyone know how to check how many more hands I need to play at casino.net to clear the bonus? can i play this at any limit, even .25/.50 limit holdem? I emailed their support but it didn't even reach them... mailer daemon'd back.. this is kinda shady

theres no way to check. just 4-table for 5-6 hours and its done

do you think they accept 5 handed .25/.50 limit hands?

100% yes they do

cool ty vm

You can also ask the live support when it works. I'm also pretty sure they have a working mail address, don't remember what it is though.

does anyone know if that refer a friend thing works on martins and if the deposit codes are still valid, on their page it says use "martindeposit"

bonus doesnt look too bad
hw is the software?

Zorglub: martins changed their bonus. It's now only 600€ deposit bonus, same terms except you have to clear it in 30 days instead of 90 (pro: you receive the money 2 months earlier, con: you need to clear the bonus in time)
AFAIK the refer a friend works (+25 for the friend, +50 for the referrer)

sucker: the boss media software isn't the best, but isn't the worst either. some really annoying things are the lack of serious hands history and that the pot size gets hidden when the "please act faster you fucking newb" message appears. Apart from that it's ok. The competition is softer than anything I've seen anywhere else though.

for anyone with 500+ BR i strongly recommend doing betfred bonus RIGHT NOW

its a 100% up to 250 10x bonus

to clear the 250$ you need 2,500 raked hands, if you play NL50 ANY HAND will count as raked as long as you see a flop(as long as the pot reaches 1$ the hand is raked)

http://www.betfred.com/poker/index.asp


its on the same network as cdpoker and noble poker so the only downside of playing here is no PT/pokerace support

i dont like the software too much but its playable

other than that the nl50-100 games are a joke, i deposited 500 here to clear the bonus and cashed out 1200 done in two days( i even overplayed the bonus without knowing it, i played 3,300 raked hands instead of 2,500 just to show how amazingly friendly it is for NL players)

this bonus is a must do for any NL players that bonus whore



if you plan on doing this bonus send me a message before you make an account so i can invite you. they give 25$ for inviting people so we can split that 50/50 if you want an extra 12.5$( every bit helps!)

edit1: forgot to mention that you must play NL50 or .5/1 limit and up for the raked hand to count towards the bonus, NL25 and lower limits will not count for the bonus

hehe very nice stats
kep up whit the good work

I have a question about this bonus maybe someone wants to try it out or just try the site..:
www.sensepoker.com
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The best bonus out there at the moment is Ladbrokes.

$175 for 500 raked hands. They allow you to clear both the $100 signup bonus and the $50 refer a friend bonus at the same time, and they also give you $25 if you submit a profile. Further details and a thread on it can be found at http://www.bonuswhores.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=21897

Can also see their site: http://poker.ladbrokes.com/promotions/index.php?#free_poker_chips

It's clearable at micro stakes and any raked pot counts (unlike b2b). Only a $100 deposit required.

You need to be referred to get the full $175. If any of you want to be or want further details just shoot me a pm.

There's a $175 bonus for new customers at Ladbrokes for playing 500 raked hands (they rake even microlimits!)

I wrote a short guide on my BLOG, pm me or msg me in Irc Durandal @ Quakenet if you want invitation email.
(You need to pm me your irl name and email address, which I'll use to invite you)

Isn't that what I just said?

sorry, didn't check the last page before posting in this thead

On May 27 2006 15:48 Durandal wrote: There's a $175 bonus for new customers at Ladbrokes for playing 500 raked hands (they rake even microlimits!) I wrote a short guide on my BLOG, pm me or msg me in Irc Durandal @ Quakenet if you want invitation email. (You need to pm me your irl name and email address, which I'll use to invite you)

So what do you make?

I PM'ed you both - first to reply gets to refer me.

GOGOGOOG TY BTW

On May 27 2006 20:32 Zorglub wrote: Show nested quote + On May 27 2006 15:48 Durandal wrote: There's a $175 bonus for new customers at Ladbrokes for playing 500 raked hands (they rake even microlimits!) I wrote a short guide on my BLOG, pm me or msg me in Irc Durandal @ Quakenet if you want invitation email. (You need to pm me your irl name and email address, which I'll use to invite you) So what do you make?

We get to make out with Rekrul's mom

yep that's more than reward enough for us

Hey Touc or Durandal - hope you can help - i signed up as you both know. Through Durandal. I have played about 15-20 raked hands (according to their criteria) and about 80 hands in total and yet my raked hands shows 0. Can you tell me if it takes 24 hours to update? Durandal said it was real-time so i am a little concerned!

Hope u guys can help me.

Yeah and i check about the cash-out but its not possible to cash out back to your neteller right?

are you serious? i better be able to cash out back to neteller!!

i clicked on withdraw and WTF it says "we can not authorise withdrawals from your account at this time..."