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wobbly_au   Australia. Nov 04 2007 10:33. Posts 6540

Submitted by : wobbly_au

PokerStars Game #13031792638: Hold'em No Limit ($3/$6) - 2007/11/04 - 06:52:36 (ET)
Table 'Hersilia' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: bisp ($513 in chips)
Seat 2: Quigley DK ($318 in chips)
Seat 3: Fish_you_out ($677.20 in chips)
Seat 4: Dr.Lonsdale ($255.45 in chips)
Seat 6: ddriller ($693 in chips)
Seat 7: sinivalas ($954 in chips)
Seat 8: wobbly_au ($630 in chips)
Seat 9: Dvornick ($259 in chips)
Fish_you_out: posts small blind $3
Dr.Lonsdale: posts big blind $6

Holecards(Odds)
Dealt to wobbly_au 7cAc
ddriller: folds
sinivalas: folds
wobbly_au : raises $18 to $24
Dvornick: folds
bisp: folds
Quigley DK: folds
Fish_you_out: calls $21
Dr.Lonsdale: calls $18

Flop(Odds) (Pot : $72.00)

   QcTc4h
Fish_you_out: checks
Dr.Lonsdale: bets $42
wobbly_au : raises $72 to $114
Fish_you_out: raises $539.20 to $653.20 and is all-in
loosefer has returned
Dr.Lonsdale: folds
wobbly_au : calls $492 and is all-in

Turn(Odds) (Pot : $1,326.00)

   QcTc4hAs

River (Pot : $1,326.00)

   QcTc4hAs9d

Showdown
Fish_you_out: shows 4c4d (three of a kind, Fours)
wobbly_au : mucks hand
Fish_you_out collected $1323 from pot

Summary
Total pot $1326 | Rake $3
Board  QcTc4hAs9d
Seat 1: bisp folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: Quigley DK (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: Fish_you_out (small blind) showed 4c4d and won ($1323) with three of a kind, Fours
Seat 4: Dr.Lonsdale (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 6: ddriller folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: sinivalas folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: wobbly_au mucked 7cAc
Seat 9: Dvornick folded before Flop (didn't bet)



The original leader is a donk, and the guy who shoved I have no stats on.

I feel he can do this with alot of straight+flush draws like KcJc, and ofcourse 44 and QT. Call or Fold?

Also it was Villains first few hands and i felt there was the added possibility that he was just shoving a bare flush draw.

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The Last Laugh.Last edit: 04/11/2007 10:44

wobbly_au   Australia. Nov 04 2007 10:34. Posts 6540

Submitted by : wobbly_au

PokerStars Game #13032353898: Hold'em No Limit ($3/$6) - 2007/11/04 - 07:51:27 (ET)
Table 'Lupus' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: Dvornick ($316 in chips)
Seat 3: 1031 ($934 in chips)
Seat 4: Dr.Lonsdale ($463 in chips)
Seat 5: Bkreebi ($63.05 in chips)
Seat 6: NUTTY54 ($676.80 in chips)
Seat 7: wobbly_au ($1162.45 in chips)
Seat 8: autofire ($805 in chips)
Seat 9: Arco13 ($185.20 in chips)
wobbly_au : posts small blind $3
autofire: posts big blind $6

Holecards
Dealt to wobbly_au 7c9c
1031 said, "nice play there"
Bkreebi said, "hahha good for you"
Arco13: folds
Dvornick: folds
1031: folds
Arco13 leaves the table
Dr.Lonsdale: folds
Bkreebi: calls $6
NUTTY54: calls $6
wobbly_au : calls $3
autofire: checks

Flop (Pot : $24.00)

   Tc3c8h
wobbly_au : checks
autofire: bets $20
1031 said, "bkreebi will lose"
Bkreebi: folds
NUTTY54: calls $20
wobbly_au : raises $64 to $84
jerseygirl81 joins the table at seat #9
autofire: calls $64
NUTTY54: folds

Turn (Pot : $212.00)

   Tc3c8hQs
wobbly_au : bets $165
1031 said, "save some chips fo rme bkreebi"
autofire: calls $165

River (Pot : $542.00)

   Tc3c8hQsTd
wobbly_au : checks
autofire: bets $550 and is all-in
Bkreebi said, "oke.. il wait til your also in the pot"
wobbly_au : folds
autofire collected $539 from pot
autofire: doesn't show hand

Summary
Total pot $542 | Rake $3
Board  Tc3c8hQsTd
Seat 1: Dvornick folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: 1031 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Dr.Lonsdale folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Bkreebi folded on the Flop
Seat 6: NUTTY54 (button) folded on the Flop
Seat 7: wobbly_au (small blind) folded on the River
Seat 8: autofire (big blind) collected ($539)
Seat 9: Arco13 folded before Flop (didn't bet)



Villain is a decent TAG, first pot that I've played with him. Should I bluff this river? The reason I'm saying this is I feel when I check river it is like giving up the pot and I felt villain knew that and thus INSTA bluff shoved the river because I think if he really boated up he would bet slow and less.

The Last Laugh.Last edit: 04/11/2007 10:46

wobbly_au   Australia. Nov 04 2007 10:35. Posts 6540

Submitted by : wobbly_au

PokerStars Game #13033953479: Hold'em No Limit ($2/$4) - 2007/11/04 - 09:57:00 (ET)
Table 'Masaryk' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: nonebeter ($533.55 in chips)
Seat 2: greasy1 ($199 in chips)
Seat 3: boberto8 ($261.70 in chips)
Seat 4: okayicall ($903 in chips)
Seat 5: downgoesdown ($404 in chips)
Seat 7: changho ($490.20 in chips)
Seat 8: 20110 ($128.95 in chips)
Seat 9: wobbly_au ($396 in chips)
wobbly_au : posts small blind $2
nonebeter: posts big blind $4

Holecards(Odds)
Dealt to wobbly_au AhJc
greasy1: folds
boberto8: folds
okayicall: folds
downgoesdown: folds
55golf50 joins the table at seat #6
greasy1 leaves the table
changho: calls $4
20110: calls $4
wobbly_au : raises $20 to $24
nonebeter: folds
changho: calls $20
20110: folds

Flop(Odds) (Pot : $56.00)

   9h7hTc
wobbly_au : checks
changho: bets $10
wobbly_au : raises $30 to $40
changho: calls $30

Turn(Odds) (Pot : $136.00)

   9h7hTcKc
wobbly_au : bets $90
changho: calls $90

River (Pot : $316.00)

   9h7hTcKc8h
wobbly_au : checks
changho: bets $336.20 and is all-in
wobbly_au : calls $242 and is all-in

Showdown
changho: shows JhTh (a straight flush, Seven to Jack)
wobbly_au : mucks hand
changho collected $797 from pot

Summary
Total pot $800 | Rake $3
Board  9h7hTcKc8h
Seat 1: nonebeter (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: greasy1 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: boberto8 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: okayicall folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: downgoesdown folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: changho showed JhTh and won ($797) with a straight flush, Seven to Jack
Seat 8: 20110 (button) folded before Flop
Seat 9: wobbly_au (small blind) mucked AhJc



Villain is a HUGE loose donkey, what is the best action on the river? Bet all in > Check/Call > Check/Fold?

The Last Laugh. 

wobbly_au   Australia. Nov 04 2007 10:36. Posts 6540

The next two hands are interesting, Villain is a 56/14/2 player and seems to be either steaming or retarded.

First hand I had no read, but after this hand i looked through history and saw that he made moves.

Submitted by : wobbly_au

PokerStars Game #13034122441: Hold'em No Limit ($3/$6) - 2007/11/04 - 10:08:23 (ET)
Table 'Etheridgea' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: BruceOxner ($369 in chips)
Seat 2: wobbly_au ($1353.45 in chips)
Seat 3: Willi123 ($650.25 in chips)
Seat 4: fishhy ($545.25 in chips)
Seat 5: ntshockey ($679.05 in chips)
Seat 6: lcp3557 ($1202 in chips)
Seat 7: loosefer ($945.35 in chips)
Seat 8: aKirA AriKa ($200.60 in chips)
Seat 9: INTREPID FOX ($324 in chips)
wobbly_au : posts small blind $3
Willi123: posts big blind $6

Holecards
Dealt to wobbly_au JsJd
fishhy: calls $6
ntshockey: calls $6
lcp3557: folds
loosefer: folds
aKirA AriKa: folds
INTREPID FOX: folds
BruceOxner: calls $6
wobbly_au : raises $48 to $54
Willi123: folds
fishhy: folds
ntshockey: raises $48 to $102
BruceOxner: folds
wobbly_au : calls $48

Flop (Pot : $222.00)

   7s5dKh
wobbly_au : checks
ntshockey: bets $577.05 and is all-in
wobbly_au : folds
ntshockey collected $219 from pot
ntshockey: doesn't show hand

Summary
Total pot $222 | Rake $3
Board  7s5dKh
Seat 1: BruceOxner (button) folded before Flop
Seat 2: wobbly_au (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 3: Willi123 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: fishhy folded before Flop
Seat 5: ntshockey collected ($219)
Seat 6: lcp3557 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: loosefer folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: aKirA AriKa folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: INTREPID FOX folded before Flop (didn't bet)

The Last Laugh. 

wobbly_au   Australia. Nov 04 2007 10:36. Posts 6540

Submitted by : wobbly_au

PokerStars Game #13034137698: Hold'em No Limit ($3/$6) - 2007/11/04 - 10:09:22 (ET)
Table 'Etheridgea' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: BruceOxner ($363 in chips)
Seat 2: wobbly_au ($1251.45 in chips)
Seat 3: Willi123 ($644.25 in chips)
Seat 4: fishhy ($539.25 in chips)
Seat 5: ntshockey ($796.05 in chips)
Seat 6: lcp3557 ($1202 in chips)
Seat 7: loosefer ($945.35 in chips)
Seat 8: aKirA AriKa ($200.60 in chips)
Seat 9: INTREPID FOX ($324 in chips)
Willi123: posts small blind $3
fishhy: posts big blind $6

Holecards
Dealt to wobbly_au JcJs
ntshockey: raises $6 to $12
lcp3557: folds
loosefer: folds
aKirA AriKa: folds
INTREPID FOX: folds
BruceOxner: folds
wobbly_au : raises $48 to $60
Willi123: folds
fishhy: folds
ntshockey: raises $48 to $108
wobbly_au : calls $48

Flop (Pot : $225.00)

   AsAdQh
ntshockey: bets $688.05 and is all-in
wobbly_au : folds
ntshockey collected $222 from pot

Summary
Total pot $225 | Rake $3
Board  AsAdQh
Seat 1: BruceOxner folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: wobbly_au (button) folded on the Flop
Seat 3: Willi123 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: fishhy (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: ntshockey collected ($222)
Seat 6: lcp3557 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: loosefer folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: aKirA AriKa folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: INTREPID FOX folded before Flop (didn't bet)



VERY NEXT HAND after the previous one, and same villain... (MEGA sigh at the flop)

The Last Laugh. 

wobbly_au   Australia. Nov 04 2007 10:37. Posts 6540

Submitted by : wobbly_au

PokerStars Game #13034265420: Hold'em No Limit ($3/$6) - 2007/11/04 - 10:17:41 (ET)
Table 'Lupus' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Willi123 ($600 in chips)
Seat 2: 1031 ($542.05 in chips)
Seat 3: GROWEMRIGHT ($769.55 in chips)
Seat 4: INTREPID FOX ($367.35 in chips)
Seat 5: GARFIELD25 ($624 in chips)
Seat 6: franzappa ($208.80 in chips)
Seat 7: wobbly_au ($1095.70 in chips)
Seat 8: loosefer ($732.35 in chips)
Seat 9: VICTORY68 ($591.45 in chips)
1031: posts small blind $3
GROWEMRIGHT: posts big blind $6

Holecards(Odds)
Dealt to wobbly_au JhJd
INTREPID FOX: raises $6 to $12
GARFIELD25: folds
franzappa: calls $12
wobbly_au : calls $12
loosefer: folds
VICTORY68: calls $12
Willi123: folds
1031: raises $60 to $72
GROWEMRIGHT: folds
INTREPID FOX: folds
franzappa: folds
wobbly_au : raises $1023.70 to $1095.70 and is all-in
VICTORY68: folds
1031: calls $470.05 and is all-in

Flop(Odds) (Pot : $1,126.10)

   3hTd9h

Turn(Odds) (Pot : $1,126.10)

   3hTd9h2s

River (Pot : $1,126.10)

   3hTd9h2sAd

Showdown
1031: shows KdKh (a pair of Kings)
wobbly_au : mucks hand
1031 collected $1123.10 from pot

Summary
Total pot $1126.10 | Rake $3
Board  3hTd9h2sAd
Seat 1: Willi123 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: 1031 (small blind) showed KdKh and won ($1123.10) with a pair of Kings
Seat 3: GROWEMRIGHT (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: INTREPID FOX folded before Flop
Seat 5: GARFIELD25 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: franzappa folded before Flop
Seat 7: wobbly_au mucked JhJd
Seat 8: loosefer folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: VICTORY68 folded before Flop



Anyways, so intrepid fox is a nit (10/6) so I didnt 3bet him, bunch of callers and then Villain who was running at 26/19 3bets, how is my shove? If its bad what is the best line?

The Last Laugh. 

tomson    Poland. Nov 04 2007 11:16. Posts 1982

1. Ac7c - your raise is very small. You can fold to his push against certain opponents
2. 9c7c - flat the flop. Don't bluff the river.
3. AhJc - check/fold river I guess.
4. JsJd - if you feel that he's steaming/retarded push pre-flop sounds ok
5. JcJs - push pre-flop
6. JhJd - i think it's fine

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[vital]Myth    United States. Nov 04 2007 14:25. Posts 12159

1. A7s isn't a good raising hand here. when you spike the ace, your action is killed. when you hit a flush, it's tough to get paid. when you hit two sevens you might win a nice pot. otherwise, you can't ever play big pots. i'd much rather raise 64s than A7s. anyway, flat the flop lead. it's kinda small and you're getting good odds and there's still a player behind who obv could have a hand that you don't wanna tangle with. so don't allow this pot to spiral out of control before you have any reason to let it.

don't have time to look at the rest yet

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Yugless    United States. Nov 04 2007 15:11. Posts 7174

1. A7s certainly isn't a standard raise in ep but it's ok to do sometimes. your raise was small, but either way this is a really clear fold.

2. looks good, huge flop get the money in, give up on the river

3. you can call that $10 bet on the flop, i really don't like c/r that weak lead, i'd rather lead or c/c

4. looks ok, kinda weird hand

5. i stick it in pre after the previous hand

6. i don't see why you're bluffing with jacks here, nh him, just fold

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YA MAMMY   United States. Apr 13 2008 05:36. Posts 7

GO MAKE PLAYER YA MAMMY A SANDWITCH!


Baalim   Mexico. Apr 13 2008 05:59. Posts 34312

i hope a nuke "sandwitch" is ok

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NMcNasty    United States. Apr 13 2008 10:39. Posts 2041

Hand 1 I like your flop raise, against a fishy donklead with a half stack you absolutely have to semibluff. Just fold when it comes back around, your opponent has to have KQo and bad flush draws a lot to make calling ok.

Hand 2, well played

Hand 3 you have to lead the flop even though you're not going to get a fold very often. Check-raising, check-calling, and check-folding are all bad assumming opponent bets normally. As played just call flop, he might be weak but he's not bluffing with a small bet like that and you're not going to move him off his hand when his range is so draw heavy. As played I like your turn bet, maybe bet larger though. River is pretty tricky. Normally I would say ur opponent doesn't have a flush since any flush draw has a pair or some sort of gutshot to go along with and would have played flop or turn more aggressively, and I would actually recommend shoving river for value. Still, just the fact that your opponent is most likely a passive nit is usually enough to go by and you can just check-fold. I'm not a fan of check-calling though, there's not a lot of hands that make it to river that he's going to bluff with and he's not going be value-betting with less than a jack.


locoo   Peru. Apr 13 2008 11:33. Posts 4566

hand 1 fold flop, I'd fold PF most of the times, but depends on table and other things as u know

hand 2 I wouldnt try to bluff that turn, J9, QT, JT and better aint folding anyway (JT turned a gutter!), prolly same with a big FD, guess he had JT or QT

hand 3 if im checking flop im either calling the flop bet or raising to like 60~70, check folding that turn cuz QJ, KT,K9 got there

the JJ's hands are up to you and game flow+previous history+balls

bitte bitte bitte bitte bitte bitteLast edit: 13/04/2008 11:33

ukfan81   United States. Apr 13 2008 23:03. Posts 139

 Last edit: 13/04/2008 23:04

PoorUser    United States. Apr 14 2008 02:56. Posts 7472

yeah lead or c/c flop on hand 3. i dont get why you (or anyone) posts 'villian is a huge lose donkey' and then submits a hand asking for a question where you try to bluff them

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Cutsss    France. Apr 14 2008 08:44. Posts 1198

1) terrible
2) good but I lead here
3) just cbet, as played yeah c/c riv
4) I call this
5) I fold this
6) terrible

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