https://www.liquidpoker.net/


LP international Poland    Contact            Users: 168 Active, 0 Logged in - Time: 09:34

Poll: Do you want kids?

New to LiquidPoker? Register here for free!
Forum Index > General
 1 
  2 
  3 
  > 
  Last 
  All 
bigredhoss   Cook Islands. Apr 23 2015 11:02. Posts 8646

edit: meaning ever, not necessarily right now.


Poll: Do you want kids?
(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): Probably, but maybe not
(Vote): Probably not, but maybe
(Vote): Already have them (woops)
(Vote): Already have them (on purpose!)

Facebook Twitter
Truck-Crash LifeLast edit: 23/04/2015 11:03

traxamillion   United States. Apr 23 2015 11:31. Posts 10468

yea definitely at some point


NotSorry   United States. Apr 23 2015 13:01. Posts 2603

Have 3, have had thoughts of making more as I get older

We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. 

NMcNasty    United States. Apr 23 2015 16:17. Posts 2039

Where's the fuck you I don't want to think about it option?


VanDerMeyde   Norway. Apr 23 2015 16:37. Posts 5108

Yes. Need to find south korean woman and create a gamer

:D 

Santafairy   Korea (South). Apr 23 2015 17:49. Posts 2224

not for a long time, if ever

It seems to be not very profitable in the long run to play those kind of hands. - Gus Hansen 

Twisted    Netherlands. Apr 23 2015 18:41. Posts 10422

Yup. Definitely.


JonnyCosMo   United States. Apr 23 2015 20:16. Posts 7292


  On April 23 2015 15:17 NMcNasty wrote:
Where's the fuck you I don't want to think about it option?



this

Everyone needs to see that you are king of the castle - PoorUser 

Rinny   United States. Apr 23 2015 20:50. Posts 600

yeah i just dont want to raise them


Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Apr 23 2015 21:17. Posts 9634


  On April 23 2015 19:50 Rinny wrote:
yeah i just dont want to raise them


father of the year award :D


Raidern   Brasil. Apr 24 2015 01:48. Posts 4243

looking forward for loco's post

michaeljacksonpopcorn.gif

im a regular at nl5 

whamm!   Albania. Apr 24 2015 02:01. Posts 11625

Theyre great if you have them but even more amazing if you didn't lol


K40Cheddar   United States. Apr 24 2015 04:42. Posts 2202

Probably, maybe not

GG 

Romm3l   Germany. Apr 24 2015 09:00. Posts 285

It's funny how being an unmarried adult male culturally used to make you a bit of a weirdo/outcast, and a married couple having no children or even only one child made them selfish. Of course that's changing now that cultural attitudes are more liberal, economic conditions for young people are tighter in many rich-world countries, overpopulation and climate change are more of a global concern, etc. As Loco pointed out by linking that funny Doug Stanhope video at some point in the past on here, people have a pretty massive negative environmental impact through the resources they consume over a lifetime, so the more children you have the more damage you'll do.

Ofcourse there's an ethical tradeoff. Letting everyone have as many children as they want could make things irreversibly worse for everyone but on the other hand having children is a joy and regarded as a basic human right which is ethically difficult to limit. My personal view is it's a good idea to limit yourself to one or two, and I generally tend to look down upon people who choose to have more (especially if my taxes and the future taxes paid by my one child will be used to keep them above the poverty line!).

Finally if you choose to not have any kids, pat yourselves on the back and I hope you have an awesome life.


Romm3l   Germany. Apr 24 2015 09:19. Posts 285


  On April 23 2015 15:37 VanDerMeyde wrote:
Yes. Need to find south korean woman and create a gamer


fun fact: elite bw/esports players are disproportionately south korean because of cultural factors not genetics. it's a rigidly hierarchical system where background and especially school test scores and university determine your life success and there is not much upward social mobility. for the poorly educated desperate, uncompetitive and poor kids who don't have access to top private schools and private tuition, esports presents the mirage of a chance to make a better life for yourself. The difference between these kids and your average 'foreigner' hobby player (who has better life options than to try and make it in bw) is hunger.

ofcourse I recognise you're joking, but this realisation was quite eye-opening for me since i too enjoyed bw as a teenager and casually followed the scene. dropping out of highschool for esports is not a life you want to wish upon anyone, least of all your own child.

slightly offtopic post but maybe people will enjoy reading it


MadeInPolanD   Poland. Apr 24 2015 09:53. Posts 1383

we do

Make it rain$$$ 

Trav94   Canada. Apr 24 2015 10:07. Posts 1785


  On April 24 2015 08:00 Romm3l wrote:
It's funny how being an unmarried adult male culturally used to make you a bit of a weirdo/outcast, and a married couple having no children or even only one child made them selfish. Of course that's changing now that cultural attitudes are more liberal, economic conditions for young people are tighter in many rich-world countries, overpopulation and climate change are more of a global concern, etc. As Loco pointed out by linking that funny Doug Stanhope video at some point in the past on here, people have a pretty massive negative environmental impact through the resources they consume over a lifetime, so the more children you have the more damage you'll do.

Ofcourse there's an ethical tradeoff. Letting everyone have as many children as they want could make things irreversibly worse for everyone but on the other hand having children is a joy and regarded as a basic human right which is ethically difficult to limit. My personal view is it's a good idea to limit yourself to one or two, and I generally tend to look down upon people who choose to have more (especially if my taxes and the future taxes paid by my one child will be used to keep them above the poverty line!).

Finally if you choose to not have any kids, pat yourselves on the back and I hope you have an awesome life.



This is flawed thinking. A society needs to have an avg of 2.1 kids per couple just to SUSTAIN (not grow) the population. A fertility rate of 1.3 is considered irreversible and the society will eventually cease to exist. No society has ever reversed a fertility rate of 1.6. So if everyone until the end of time only has 1-2 kids. Eventually humanity ceases to exist. So no. People who have more then 2 children don't deserve to be looked down upon. The only reason you look down upon them is because you are ignorant.

 Last edit: 24/04/2015 10:15

Romm3l   Germany. Apr 24 2015 10:43. Posts 285


  On April 24 2015 09:07 Trav94 wrote:
Show nested quote +



This is flawed thinking. A society needs to have an avg of 2.1 kids per couple just to SUSTAIN (not grow) the population. A fertility rate of 1.3 is considered irreversible and the society will eventually cease to exist. No society has ever reversed a fertility rate of 1.6. So if everyone until the end of time only has 1-2 kids. Eventually humanity ceases to exist. So no. People who have more then 2 children don't deserve to be looked down upon. The only reason you look down upon them is because you are ignorant.

lol perhaps i didn't qualify, i mean specifically right now while there exists overpopulation, high global population growth rate, and an unsustainable rate of resource depletion+climate change. Nobody said anything about wanting to continue a low birth rate environment to extinction lol. Of all the things that threaten human extinction, dangerously low birth rates have no chance of ever being one of them - just look at the postwar baby boom to see what's possible when nations are worried about underpopulation.

low birth rates and stagnating/declining population are only a problem if you're the japanese government and have huge national debt and unfunded pension liabilities to your ageing population, and need your young people to have lots of japanese babies so their future economic activity and tax receipts will pay for it all. ofcourse they could also stop being such massive xenophobes and reform their immigration policy. welcoming highly skilled migrants and providing a good place to live worked out great for the USA.


bigredhoss   Cook Islands. Apr 24 2015 11:29. Posts 8646

interesting responses, i also wonder what the results would look like 7, 8, 9 years ago when a lot of LP's members were a bit younger.

i didn't vote in the poll, i wasn't sure whether to put No or Probably not, but maybe. i'm fairly certain i don't want kids; the only thing preventing me from saying No unequivocally is that i currently have opinions and beliefs at age 27 that i wouldn't have predicted 10 years ago, so who's to say i couldn't change my mind about this in the next 10 years. it does seem like a stretch though.

kind of a bummer because i'm in a relationship now that seems perfect in every way imaginable, except she definitely wants kids someday. fml

Truck-Crash Life 

Trav94   Canada. Apr 24 2015 11:39. Posts 1785


  On April 24 2015 09:43 Romm3l wrote:
Show nested quote +


lol perhaps i didn't qualify, i mean specifically right now while there exists overpopulation, high global population growth rate, and an unsustainable rate of resource depletion+climate change. Nobody said anything about wanting to continue a low birth rate environment to extinction lol. Of all the things that threaten human extinction, dangerously low birth rates have no chance of ever being one of them - just look at the postwar baby boom to see what's possible when nations are worried about underpopulation.

low birth rates and stagnating/declining population are only a problem if you're the japanese government and have huge national debt and unfunded pension liabilities to your ageing population, and need your young people to have lots of japanese babies so their future economic activity and tax receipts will pay for it all. ofcourse they could also stop being such massive xenophobes and reform their immigration policy. welcoming highly skilled migrants and providing a good place to live worked out great for the USA.



I don't know if you're actually from Germany or not. But I think Germany's fertility rate is 1.3 or close to as of a few years ago if I remember correctly. So hypothetically there will be no more ethnic Germans sooner or later. It's not just Japan. The earth itself is not even close to being overpopulated. Just certain areas of it are. China and parts of the Middle East for ex. Do some research instead of just listening to propaganda..

 Last edit: 24/04/2015 11:40

 
 1 
  2 
  3 
  > 
  Last 
  All 



Poker Streams

















Copyright © 2024. LiquidPoker.net All Rights Reserved
Contact Advertise Sitemap