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Rinny   United States. Mar 25 2015 05:05. Posts 600


  On March 25 2015 04:20 BisuDagger wrote:
This topic will eventually be created. So here are the facts:

The facts:
Byul vs MKP match was voided by Pinnacle.

Match in question:
-XbHBQAco8

The Drama:
Dramatic Tweet:


A reddit posting:
http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/com...ids_yet_another_bet_in_spl_this_time/

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As usual: Post with respect. Don't bash other posters.



From tl thread ^-

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PuertoRican   United States. Mar 25 2015 05:12. Posts 13030

Rekrul is a newb 

traxamillion   United States. Mar 25 2015 08:17. Posts 10468

lol it's blatant. Marineking gets cheesed and so instead of just throwing a close standard game he freaks out and fking ignores enemy Spire on his minimap


TianYuan    Korea (South). Mar 25 2015 09:04. Posts 6817

To be honest, I think it's perfectly possible to miss that on the minimap... it's just problematic when you combine it with:
- Him having scouted everywhere else and seen nothing, so had to know something was up.
- Worlds latest reaction to creep practically humping his buildings.
- Above all, the absurd betting patterns.

Sad and don't really want to believe, but... it looks very dirty

Hm.. Off-suite socks.. 

Trav94   Canada. Mar 25 2015 09:25. Posts 1785


  On March 25 2015 08:04 TianYuan wrote:

Sad and don't really want to believe, but... it looks very dirty


Loco   Canada. Mar 25 2015 11:35. Posts 20963

MarineKing has been playing like garbage ever since he came back from LoL. Every single game I've seen of him has been utterly awful. I remember one game (not a TV broadcast, just online) the commentators actually thought someone was impersonating MKP because he was just playing so sloppy, but it ended up being the real MKP. They were actually making fun of what seemed to be a MKP fan with average skills. That's pretty telling.

The last game I saw of him before this he had all his units in one control group I believe and sent them to his third which resulted in hellions/marauders getting there first without marine support and all getting destroyed by mutalisks. He then put all his remaining army in his mineral line at his third and got completely crushed by the next attack of ling/banes/mutas. He had no space to micro and just lost every SCVs there as well. Seriously, in all the games I've seen of him he's been consistently distracted and sloppy, so in my mind this is 100% normal and expected outcome of Byul's strategy here. For this reason, looking purely at the game in isolation I wouldn't think it was fixed, but what with all the betting stuff I can't know for sure.

fuck I should just sell some of my Pokemon cards, if no one stakes that is what I will have to do - lostaccountLast edit: 25/03/2015 11:48

PoorUser    United States. Mar 25 2015 11:37. Posts 7471

ya cant really comment on whether or not it was fixed but this is definitely in mkps wheelhouse of being terrible

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Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Mar 25 2015 11:45. Posts 9634

Guy's coef drops to 1.0xx and wins his match...
Other guy is known for being bad lately and loses

... can someone explain what im missing


Santafairy   Korea (South). Mar 25 2015 17:52. Posts 2224

my problem is as obvious as it looks, as clear as the evidence seems or whatever, it takes no risk for some guy on the internet to point at kespa and go "durr kespa evil matchfixing" without knowing the effect of this kind of allegation, true or false, on someone's reputation

i'm wondering when betting closed? because it seems to me if i were in the studio watching mkp fail like this would it be that hard to bet my life savings on the game? or the betting could also be from an information leak and not some kind of collusion involving the actual players. i mean you would have to be a real nincompoop to fix a game in this way, it would be like barry bonds dropping his bat going to try and pick it up and slipping on a banana peel so he cracks his skull on home plate after the pitch knocks his helmet off

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RaiNKhAN    United States. Mar 25 2015 18:10. Posts 4080

The only reason why I can't outright agree with everyone is because this is MKP. If anyone (Loco included) has watched MKP in the past two years then you know that if there is any Korean pro capable of looking this retarded then it is him. He has lost games of SC2 in just about every possible embarrassing way that you can whether from way ahead or behind.

If I were to play devil's advocate here, then he either did not notice the yellow dot on the mini map, or he was simply that tilted for whatever reason that* he auto deemed the yellow dot as an overlord and paid no more attention to it.

When you go to 5:40 in the video in question, you see that MKP has 120 minerals banked and then spends 50 for an SCV. Roughly 1 second later you see his facial expression change (whether it was bad acting and a clear fix, or simply when his attention was off of his command center and he then had time to view the rest of his base/map).

I am serious in that if this was anyone else in the Korean pro scene that* I would hands down agree it's a fix. However, because it's MKP and since he issued a statement immediately through Waxangel about being outraged on the accusations then I am siding with him being innocent here.

In regards to the betting lines, the lines have been all over the place for tons of games since the San/Dark incident and even sometimes the side which gets heavily pounded ends up losing horribly, so I really think it's hard to correlate that with this situation. Also, the current trend on TL.net for SC2 is that its a dead game and everyone is either hacking or throwing games for money. Some of these incidents include the past basis of the Savior match fixing scandal, San/Dark cancelled wagers by pinnacle incident, The Olimo league betting scandal and now this one. So you have to keep that all in mind and be more objective instead of going into it thinking that this is a clear fix

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VanDerMeyde   Norway. Mar 25 2015 18:13. Posts 5108

Interesting. The exact same cheese that trek did when he got caught hacking like 13-14 years ago in brood war ? Lol

:DLast edit: 25/03/2015 18:19

Mariuslol   Norway. Mar 25 2015 19:57. Posts 4742

Rainkhan, even though the dot is a pretty big thing, considering how pro gamers always keep checking the minimap, and use it nonstop. That's not the biggest thing, not even close.

He scouts, there's nothing, he look for bases, nothing. Doesn't matter if it's a pro gamer, I think anyone diamond and above would have alarm bells going by now.

He goes home, does nothing, then adds not one, but two command centers, that's 800 minerals (No safety vs a cheese or all in). Just really, really strange.

+ Not instantly reacting to creep is a bit lol as well.

 Last edit: 25/03/2015 19:58

RaiNKhAN    United States. Mar 25 2015 20:21. Posts 4080

^ like i said its mkp. anyone else and its an auto fix lol

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Daut    United States. Mar 25 2015 21:32. Posts 8955

maybe a lot of those other instances were fixed as well.

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aCa_   . Mar 26 2015 05:20. Posts 470

I'm actually more suprised that sc2 is still alive.


Baalim   Mexico. Mar 26 2015 07:35. Posts 34246

lol people arguing this is not fixed... please -_-

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JonnyCosMo   United States. Mar 26 2015 10:34. Posts 7292

I mean... if this isnt a fix, i really don't know what is... wtf

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SpasticInk   Sweden. Mar 26 2015 13:16. Posts 6298

Couldnt be more obvious. People denying this are being naive


Loco   Canada. Mar 26 2015 17:28. Posts 20963


  On March 25 2015 19:21 RaiNKhAN wrote:
^ like i said its mkp. anyone else and its an auto fix lol



simple as that tbh

fuck I should just sell some of my Pokemon cards, if no one stakes that is what I will have to do - lostaccount 

dogmeat   Czech Republic. Mar 26 2015 17:57. Posts 6374

but why would you do it in such a retarded way?

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