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UFC 184: Rousey vs. Zingano

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PuertoRican   United States. Feb 24 2015 00:55. Posts 13024

Date: Saturday, February 28th
Preliminary Card (UFC Fight Pass): 18:00 LP.net / 4pm PST / 7pm EST
Preliminary Card (Fox Sports 1): 19:00 LP.net / 5pm PST / 8pm EST
Main Card (PPV): 21:00 LP.net / 7pm PST / 10pm EST
Live Streams: http://www.vipbox.tv (All MMA events are listed under the UFC button. Press the UFC button and you'll see the event in the list.)





Main Card (PPV)

Ronda Rousey (10-0) vs. Cat Zingano (9-0) (Women's Bantamweight Championship)
Raquel Pennington (5-4) vs. Holly Holm (7-0) (Women's Bantamweight)
Jake Ellenberger (29-9) vs. Josh Koscheck (17-8) (Welterweight)
Alan Jouban (10-3) vs. Richard Walsh (8-2) (Welterweight)
Tony Ferguson (17-3) vs. Gleison Tibau (33-10) (Lightweight)

Preliminary Card (Fox Sports 1)

Mark Munoz (13-5) vs. Roan Carneiro (19-9) (Middleweight)
Roman Salazar (9-3) vs. Norifumi Yamamoto (18-6) (Bantamweight)
Dhiego Lima (10-2) vs. Tim Means (22-6-1) (Welterweight)
Derrick Lewis (11-3) vs. Ruan Potts (8-3) (Heavyweight)

Preliminary Card (UFC Fight Pass)

James Krause (21-6) vs. Valmir Lazaro (12-3) (Lightweight)
Masio Fullen (9-4) vs. Alexander Torres (2-1) (Featherweight)

Other

- A UFC Middleweight Championship bout between Chris Weidman and Vitor Belfort was expected to serve as the event headliner. The much delayed pairing was previously scheduled to take place at UFC 173 and also at UFC 181. However, on January 30, the UFC announced that Weidman had pulled out of the bout, citing an injury he sustained in training. Subsequently, a UFC Women's Bantamweight Championship bout between current champion Ronda Rousey and top contender Cat Zingano was promoted to the main event. Belfort was offered an interim title fight first against Lyoto Machida and then Gegard Mousasi as a replacement for Weidman, but he declined and stated that he would only fight for the full title.
- Neil Magny was briefly linked to a bout with Josh Koscheck at the event. However, Magny was pulled from the fight in favor of a bout with Kiichi Kunimoto at UFC Fight Night 60. Koscheck is now expected to face Jake Ellenberger.
- A bout between touted newcomer Holly Holm and Raquel Pennington, originally booked for UFC 181 and ultimately scrapped due to Holm being injured, will serve as the co-headliner.
- Mark Munoz was very briefly scheduled to a bout with Caio Magalhaes at the event. However, shortly after the bout was announced by the UFC, Magalhaes indicated that he would not be able to compete at the event due to a lingering infection after recent dental surgery, which would require additional surgery. Munoz is expected to stay on the card against returning UFC veteran Roan Carneiro.
- A heavyweight bout between Frank Mir and Antonio Silva, originally scheduled for the main card, was moved up a week and served as the event headliner for UFC Fight Night 61.
- Ronaldo Souza was expected to face Yoel Romero at this event. However on January 15, Souza was forced to withdraw from the bout with pneumonia. The pairing was left intact and the fight rescheduled for UFC on Fox 15.
- Yancy Medeiros was slated to face Tony Ferguson at this event, but an injured foot forced him out of the bout. On the same day, Gleison Tibau was announced as his replacement.

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Rekrul is a newbLast edit: 24/02/2015 01:00

PuertoRican   United States. Feb 24 2015 01:04. Posts 13024

First impression of the match-ups:

- Rousey > Zingano (I'll have bets on Zingano and possibly o1.5 rounds; I haven't decided on the latter just yet.)
- Holm > Pennington
- Koscheck > Ellenberger (I hope Koscheck uses his wrestling here and shuts Ellenberger's game down in the first round, because Ellenberger doesn't know what to do if he can't hurt you early. Both are fighting for their job. I have a bet on Koscheck +170 already.)
- Jouban > Walsh
- Ferguson > Tibau
- Munoz vs. Carneiro (dunno yet, but leaning Carneiro at +160 or better.)
- Yamamoto > Salazar
- Means > Lima (If Lima can't get a take down, Means should win on the feet. However, Means has been inactive in his last 2 fights, even though he won both of them. Lima isn't good unless he can get your back.)
- Lewis > Potts
- Lazaro > Krause (I love Krause, but unless he can get a submission off his back, I think Lazaro is gonna do to Krause what he did to Vick, and that's keep the pressure and get take downs. I felt Lazaro was robbed against Vick, even though I bet on Vick.)
- Fullen vs. Torres (dunno)

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PuertoRican   United States. Feb 24 2015 01:13. Posts 13024




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Baalim   Mexico. Feb 24 2015 05:09. Posts 34246

Why the fuck Holm even trains striking? Ive never understood this it happens every time.

Nobody can remotely stand a chance on their feet against her, why not just train wrestling and BJJ 24/7? Thats the only way she would ever lose a fight, she is the best striker by far in MMA why the fuck is she hitting the mitts?

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Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Feb 24 2015 05:28. Posts 9634


  On February 24 2015 00:04 PuertoRican wrote:
I'll have bets on Zingano



soberstone   United States. Feb 24 2015 06:13. Posts 2662

I'd rather take Pentington than Zingano at the current odds. Ronda is about as much of a lock as it gets.

Rousey > Cat (No reasonable path to victory for Cat, but a bit excited to see how long she lasts and if she can make it semi-competitive)
Holm > Pennington
Ellenberger > Koschek - Hate to say it but I'm betting the other way on this one. I think this is the perfect matchup for Jake to win a fight and as shitty as his losses have been, I have no reason he can't beat a huge step down in competition in an old, inactive Koschek
Jouban > Walsh - Need to watch a Walsh fight but from what I can remember, the odds are a bit wide on this one. Walsh got completely robbed in his last fight. Jouban is fun and he got robbed vs Warley Alves.
Ferguson > Tibau - I want to bet on this but I'm a little afraid that Ferguson will get pinned in lame positions for prolonged periods. Still, I think I'm gonna parlay him with Koschek pretty soon here. The fact that both him and Tibeu have been very active favors him.
Munoz > Carneiro - I think the UFC is lobbing that whole team softballs on this card. I do want to see Carneiro's last fights, I guess he just won a 1-night tournament in a different organization and Munoz can look awful but he should overpower whoever this kid is.
Yamamoto vs Salazar - Want to watch Salazar fights but Yamamoto is an inactive legend on a 3-fight losing streak and is at -350.... If the 27 year old Salazar looks decent I'll bet him as a flyer
Means > Lima - Like the Dirty Bird at even odds. Just hope he throws volume and overwhelms in the 2nd and 3rd rounds.
Lewis > Potts - Lewis by KO should be a minus odds big time or I'm gonna throw a bit on that. Potts is going out.
Lazaro v Krause - Dunno, like James Krause as a fighter.
Fullen v Torres - Who the fuck knows or cares


 Last edit: 24/02/2015 06:14

JonnyCosMo   United States. Feb 24 2015 10:34. Posts 7292



Time to bet the house on Zigano. Rousey plays WoW, her life is GG now

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whamm!   Albania. Feb 24 2015 16:05. Posts 11625

That Zingano is one tough, tough girl. I wouldn't count her out that quickly since she knows how to win. In men's MMA that's not enough but certainly for women's MMA I think that's a huge factor since Ronda has been bullying everyone she fights. I feel Cat will pull this off.


alejandicto   . Feb 24 2015 16:17. Posts 865

I agree about Holm if she trains specially her takedown defence she could dominate the division, rousey striking is not good.


PuertoRican   United States. Feb 24 2015 17:34. Posts 13024

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gebbstet   Sweden. Feb 24 2015 19:08. Posts 391


  On February 24 2015 04:09 Baalim wrote:
Why the fuck Holm even trains striking? Ive never understood this it happens every time.

Nobody can remotely stand a chance on their feet against her, why not just train wrestling and BJJ 24/7? Thats the only way she would ever lose a fight, she is the best striker by far in MMA why the fuck is she hitting the mitts?



Well Im not sure you are refering to that video but if you do it does not mean anything, that is a promo done to hype the fight and they want to show her striking to get people excited. Im sure she has spent most of her camp working TDD and sub defense


soberstone   United States. Feb 24 2015 23:29. Posts 2662

We can only hope Holly Holm stuffs a couple TD's easily and cleanly and than brutally KO's Pennington, or just puts down some 10-8 type stuff. If it's even a marginally tough fight for her than they won't be able to sell her as a viable threat to Rousey, nor should they be. If she does look impressive though, that's a fight I could get excited about, simply because she would have a real path to victory, unlike everyone outside of McMann - who turns out to have some of the skills (probably the hardest hitter in the division - no other women could break an orbital bone with a standing punch like she did to Miesha, and obviously the best pure wrestler) but none of the heart it would take to dethrone Ronda.

http://fightland.vice.com/blog/jack-s...y-holm-the-women-to-beat-ronda-rousey

 Last edit: 25/02/2015 00:04

Baalim   Mexico. Feb 25 2015 02:16. Posts 34246


  On February 24 2015 18:08 gebbstet wrote:
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Well Im not sure you are refering to that video but if you do it does not mean anything, that is a promo done to hype the fight and they want to show her striking to get people excited. Im sure she has spent most of her camp working TDD and sub defense


That makes sense

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PuertoRican   United States. Feb 25 2015 06:35. Posts 13024

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soberstone   United States. Feb 26 2015 06:00. Posts 2662

Wish Bookmaker would come out with Bellator odds already, Liam McGeary is gonna roll the fuck outta Newton. He's probably the best fighter Bellator has and it will soon be known. Already at -185, fuck.

Initial bets:
2/25/2015 2/28/2015 Rousey + Ellenberger + Fergusson + Lewis PL $50.00 +187
2/25/2015 2/28/2015 Walsch + Salazar PL $5.00 +1,515
2/25/2015 2/28/2015 Walsh > Jouban SU $5.00 +355
2/25/2015 2/28/2015 Salazar > Yamamoto SU $5.00 +255

3 More Bets Added:
2/26/2015 2/28/2015 Ellenberger + Ferguson + McGeary + Lawal PL $10.00 +560
2/26/2015 2/28/2015 Ellenberger + McGeary PL $15.00 +121
2/26/2015 2/27/2015 McGeary + Lawal PL $15.00 +205

 Last edit: 27/02/2015 01:13

PuertoRican   United States. Feb 26 2015 07:03. Posts 13024




  On February 26 2015 05:00 soberstone wrote:
Wish Bookmaker would come out with Bellator odds already, Liam McGeary is gonna roll the fuck outta Newton. He's probably the best fighter Bellator has and it will soon be known. Already at -185, fuck.

Initial bets:
2/25/2015 2/28/2015 Rousey + Ellenberger + Fergusson + Lewis PL $50.00 +187
2/25/2015 2/28/2015 Walsch + Salazar PL $5.00 +1,515
2/25/2015 2/28/2015 Walsh > Jouban SU $5.00 +355
2/25/2015 2/28/2015 Salazar > Yamamoto SU $5.00 +255



There's Bellator and Invicta on Friday, then UFC on Saturday. Bookmaker and 5dimes carries the lines for all 3 of these events. There's also some Legacy FC event on 5dimes, but I'm not gonna watch it.

My bets thus far:

Josh Koscheck +170 $10 for $17
Tim Means -110 $33 for $30

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PuertoRican   United States. Feb 26 2015 22:27. Posts 13024

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Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Feb 26 2015 23:35. Posts 9634

I wonder how long will it go before the UFC decides to overtake Invicta


PuertoRican   United States. Feb 27 2015 00:58. Posts 13024




  On February 26 2015 22:35 Spitfiree wrote:
I wonder how long will it go before the UFC decides to overtake Invicta



There's no need to.

- The president and founder of Invicta, Shannon Knapp, is a former main-office UFC employee.
- UFC already took 90% of the 135 fighters and made a division for Ronda Rousey in the UFC. UFC also took 90% or more of the 115 fighters, and made them compete on their own season of The Ultimate Fighter to crown a UFC champion, which the original champion from Invicta won in the end.
- Invicta made a deal with UFC in late 2014 that allowed all of the Invicta events to be streamed on UFC Fight Pass, so Invicta doesn't have to worry about charging people for each event and dealing with shitty streams.
- All of the old Invicta fights can be viewed through UFC Fight Pass, just like the UFC/Pride/Strikeforce/etc. fights can. Also, all of the Invicta weigh-ins are streamed on UFC Fight Pass.
- Invicta still puts on 115 pound fights and 135 pound fights, along with the 105/125/145/155 pound fights. It's basically a farming system at this point for the UFC. Once a fighter proves themselves in Invicta, they can go to the UFC to fight at 115/135 pounds. If you lose too many fights in the UFC, Invicta will probably take you back because they need the bodies to fill up their cards. For example, Roxanne Modafferi was on a season of TUF, then she got one fight in the UFC and lost to Raquel Pennington, then Invicta hired her and she is currently on a 2-fight win streak. She'll get another chance in the UFC at some point, especially since she's actually improving after all these years.

As a side note, if you have a UFC ticket to this Saturday's event, you get 20% off of any Invicta ticket you buy, you just have to show the ticket. (Both events are in Los Angeles, so it's kinda cool for MMA fans in that area.)

Rekrul is a newbLast edit: 27/02/2015 01:24

Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Feb 27 2015 02:11. Posts 9634

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