UFC 182: Jones vs. Cormier

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/23...e-on-jones-sample-all-came-back-clean

You think the NSAC is going to FALSIFY a drug test?!? If news that that happened came out, than real heads would have to roll, all the way up to the top. We are talking about a complete overhaul. For what, to protect Jon Jones and the UFC? Do you know how many loose ends there would have to be in order to falsify a drug test from a 3rd party lab? Get out of town Daut. 9/11 was an inside job too.

I suspect racism.

Some people just can't handle having a young, smart black man getting all of the attention. The only reason why they let Demetrious Johnson get away with it is because nobody knows who he is, and no one takes midgets seriously anyway.

im not usually one for conspiracy theories, but the evidence here is too much to ignore.

-testosterone and epitestosterone are produced in parallel. in black males, the average ratio is 1.3:1. in his december 18th test, jones' E levels were over double the amount of T that will fail a test (2700). to give you an idea of how absurd 2700 is, i looked up vitor belforts old testosterone numbers. while he was on TRT, his levels were 1472, 855, 600. the 1472 number was so absurdly high it had media members like jordan breen lol'ing about it in tweets. after going off TRT, his levels dropped to 201, 165, 142. thats post TRT....so jones had E levels (which recall are supposed to be less than T levels in black males) of 2700, almost double the amount that belfort got lol'ed at for. and in one of his early tests, he had T levels of 59....about 1/3 of the amount of a post TRT completely depleted belfort. these tests arent just red flags, they are really really fucked up numbers.

-NSAC releases images of his 3 tests with no mention of CIR being done, the media and everyone cries for a CIR test to be done, then 24 hours later then NSAC comes out and says "OH LOLZ GUYZ WE ALREADY DID A 'CIT' TEST AND HE PASSED!!111!!" yes, he called it a CIT test.

-still no paperwork shown yet for the CIR tests.



look, i know the most likely scenario is that jones had sketchy test results and the samples were immediately given a CIR test to check for the presence of synthetic T or E and he probably passed. i know the NSAC probably didnt mention it because they are completely incompetent as shown by all of their other mistakes along the way. but until i see actual proof, I am not giving either side the benefit of the doubt. just too many red flags popping up to shrug and say everything here was fine.

and i dont really even give a fuck about steroid use in MMA. im pro steroids for sports. dont really see a distinction between using supplements that arent quite as effective as steroids but mimic the effects of them without actually being steroids and steroids. its an arbitrary line and i would rather see athletes be on a level playing field and the best that they can be. i honestly dont care that the majority of top fighters are cheating in some way, i just wish it was accessible to everyone in a safe manner. i just dont like the NSAC and want to see them burn to the ground and am really hoping that all of the sketchiness going on here points to something deeper.

Considering the way the UFC has operated the last couple years, giving no fucks about the legitimacy of the sport and only profits and how much they struggled in 2014, I don't put it passed them to try to cover shit up with their biggest star at all.

I saw a report that their profits fell 40% in 2014.

On January 09 2015 14:19 Stim_Abuser wrote: Considering the way the UFC has operated the last couple years, giving no fucks about the legitimacy of the sport and only profits and how much they struggled in 2014, I don't put it passed them to try to cover shit up with their biggest star at all. I saw a report that their profits fell 40% in 2014.

Posts like this substantiate my point.

On January 09 2015 11:44 Daut wrote: im not usually one for conspiracy theories, but the evidence here is too much to ignore. -testosterone and epitestosterone are produced in parallel. in black males, the average ratio is 1.3:1. in his december 18th test, jones' E levels were over double the amount of T that will fail a test (2700). to give you an idea of how absurd 2700 is, i looked up vitor belforts old testosterone numbers. while he was on TRT, his levels were 1472, 855, 600. the 1472 number was so absurdly high it had media members like jordan breen lol'ing about it in tweets. after going off TRT, his levels dropped to 201, 165, 142. thats post TRT....so jones had E levels (which recall are supposed to be less than T levels in black males) of 2700, almost double the amount that belfort got lol'ed at for. and in one of his early tests, he had T levels of 59....about 1/3 of the amount of a post TRT completely depleted belfort. these tests arent just red flags, they are really really fucked up numbers. -NSAC releases images of his 3 tests with no mention of CIR being done, the media and everyone cries for a CIR test to be done, then 24 hours later then NSAC comes out and says "OH LOLZ GUYZ WE ALREADY DID A 'CIT' TEST AND HE PASSED!!111!!" yes, he called it a CIT test. -still no paperwork shown yet for the CIR tests. look, i know the most likely scenario is that jones had sketchy test results and the samples were immediately given a CIR test to check for the presence of synthetic T or E and he probably passed. i know the NSAC probably didnt mention it because they are completely incompetent as shown by all of their other mistakes along the way. but until i see actual proof, I am not giving either side the benefit of the doubt. just too many red flags popping up to shrug and say everything here was fine. and i dont really even give a fuck about steroid use in MMA. im pro steroids for sports. dont really see a distinction between using supplements that arent quite as effective as steroids but mimic the effects of them without actually being steroids and steroids. its an arbitrary line and i would rather see athletes be on a level playing field and the best that they can be. i honestly dont care that the majority of top fighters are cheating in some way, i just wish it was accessible to everyone in a safe manner. i just dont like the NSAC and want to see them burn to the ground and am really hoping that all of the sketchiness going on here points to something deeper

Fully agreed there... let's just not let our hopes and dreams of the NSAC getting exposed (which we know, unfortunately, nothing will change) completely enshroud our own capability to be rational.

Most hardcore combat sports fans have felt the state athletic commissions were corrupt as fuck before the UFC was even around. It's whats been considered as one of the biggest problems in boxing for a very long time. And the Fertittas got direct ties to the NSAC so...

If anyone gets in trouble, it won't be the NSAC. The NSAC is part of the government, and they'll do whatever is necessary to cover their butts.

On January 09 2015 14:19 Stim_Abuser wrote: I saw a report that their profits fell 40% in 2014.

considering the spam of stupid cards they do, no wonder

kicked off 2015 with a 750,000+ sale though so...

Don't understand why would they even think they had chances of a more profitable 2014 though, Silva injured, GSP retired, Valasquez injured, Pettis mostly injured so only 1 fight, either Jones or Gustafson injured so LHW had no real good title fight either, Mighty Mouse practically having no real contest in his division as well and i doubt they can sell a women card as well, plus Rousey has no real competition either, that leaves like 3 divisions with interesting title fights... at least for the past year

this conversation is fun:

not to mention welterweights rory,hendricks,lawler,lombard,woodley,brown,condit,wonderboy(?)very nice rotations there

tbh gotta be mad to take this CM fight seriously, only way he loses is if he breaks his arm and foot somehow

Hey guys i have one question.

For draftKings, do you think its smarter to participate in a lot of different events ONCE, or participate in a single event with many entries? I saw some people spam the 2$ events with 20+ entries i was wondering if its smart.

On January 10 2015 20:26 Floofy wrote: Hey guys i have one question. For draftKings, do you think its smarter to participate in a lot of different events ONCE, or participate in a single event with many entries? I saw some people spam the 2$ events with 20+ entries i was wondering if its smart.

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On Kountermove, you have more options because the favorites aren't priced super high. On DraftKings, the favorites are all priced high so you have to choose between a select few underdogs.

I don't like buying multiple entries into Kountermove events, while I I don't mind doing it on DraftKings.

According to Jon Jones' mother, Camille Jones, the UFC star left rehab after just one night:

"I'm glad that this happened to Jon, this stopped him in his tracks, this let him know that he may need to change some friends, you know, because everyone is not for you for the best," Camille Jones told WBNG Action Sports. "So this is a good thing as far as our family is concerned, so we wasn't upset. Me and my husband considered it a blessing from God that our child was able to be helped and know that he need to stop and know that he needed the assistance to stop before it came to something worse."

While disappointed with her son's decision, Camille was confident that this incident would not impact Jones' future or his profession.

"You know, it did not affect his game, it was not in his system during the fight, so he's still a good athlete. So before something becomes serious of it, I was glad it was nipped in the bud."

It was also reported that Jones plans to attend the AFC title game this coming Sunday to watch his brother play.

For some reason combining cocaine and Jones popping his toe out, makes that toe incident funnier

Him taking cocaine occasionally is blowing it out of proportion as if he has a drug problem, tabloids powah

Brett Okamoto
‏@bokamotoESPN
Bob Bennett told me today after meeting Jones' CIR and fight night tests are not available yet.


lol