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Highcard   Canada. Aug 29 2014 19:43. Posts 5428
My brain hurts after looking at this trying to find the GTO, max value play for Player A


River
Player A always bet Pot size
Player B always calls or folds

Player A range
77+,6d6h,6d6s,6h6s,6d6c,6h6c,AQs+,A9s-A8s,QJs,JTs,T9s,98s,87s,76s,AKo
Player B range
QQ-99,AKs,AdKh,AhKc,AsKd

Board
9h9s8c Kd 6d

What is the range Player A maxes out value in this spot?
Does:
Player A cbet 75% of the time, 2:1 value:bluff ratio and check lose 25% air
Player B call 50% of the time, with 50% equity and fold 50% of the time

OR

Player A cbet 93% of the time 72/77 combos, with 50% equity, checking 7% pure air
Player B call 100% with 50% equity

OR

? a better option

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dogmeat   Czech Republic. Aug 30 2014 02:51. Posts 6374

you cant find both gto and max value..

anyway river betting frequency is given by turn sizing and players A range is probably wrong if you work it backwards to the flop

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Highcard   Canada. Aug 30 2014 08:10. Posts 5428

thanks for the reply

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dogmeat   Czech Republic. Aug 30 2014 08:41. Posts 6374

my bad, somehow i got potsize wrong -_-

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dogmeat   Czech Republic. Aug 30 2014 08:43. Posts 6374

~56.8% betting freq, including ak

top pair+, 76s, A8s, 70-75% AQs
thres a lot of room for toying w/ blockers you (dont) want to bluff

this one seems solid

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Highcard   Canada. Aug 30 2014 18:29. Posts 5428

so in this exact spot, would it make sense for Player A to bet larger than pot size?

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Highcard   Canada. Aug 30 2014 18:32. Posts 5428

btw crev said max exploit range was 60% cbet, checking QQ

I am a CRev noob tho so I could have made a million errors

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dogmeat   Czech Republic. Aug 30 2014 19:57. Posts 6374


  On August 30 2014 17:29 Highcard wrote:
so in this exact spot, would it make sense for Player A to bet larger than pot size?


overbetting range consinsting of 9x and bluffs makes sense imo

and max exploit tool only exploits the current strategy of other player, for another configuration you have to run it once again and you get completely different strategy, exploiting the current configuration

whereas gto ... players b strategy doesnt matter
my file: whatever playerb's calling range is, ev is always 0.48 or higher, obv not exact gto strategy, it probably lies somewhere between 70-72.5% AQs (or not :D)
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxjknvTZAZQyU29nTDBDTFR2R28/edit?usp=sharing



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Highcard   Canada. Aug 31 2014 08:51. Posts 5428

thanks for the CRev file

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