Interstellar ya'll

newbsaibot nice post

was gonna say u saved me from going but i was reading spoilers so i guess i already knew i wasnt going anyway

movie double confirmed horrible with puertorican's 5/5 star rating

It should be ranked on story, characters, visuals, etc. Movie criteria. It is a Fiction movie not a documentary.

Explanation in spoilers below, contains facts about the movie.

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Shit can a mod hide the text in my last post in spoilers if I fail to do so correctly? I forgot to do so initially. Sorry guys

-Got it taken care if.

Newb u gotta realize

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Agree contact was great.

This movie was trying to display theoretical physics and science. These are things that no human has ever actually observed. So cut them some slack. Were you not entertained?

It was surprisingly well acted and emotional. I can see how that is a negative for many people but it adds a dimension 2001 never had. Best movie ever though?...

Maybe

This one was a mix of Gravity plus a real movie

Or

2001 plus a drama

I just saw it.
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Not sure if spoiler recommendation, so ill jsut put it in spoiler about what to expect from the movie :
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I'm not going to criticize how the millennium falcon achieves light speed because george lucas did not attempt to explain it, it's fiction so we just accept that it works and it's beyond our understanding. But interstellar makes constant attempts to explain its technology, and every attempt just feels so contrived so that Nolan can proceed with the scene. Dont try to explain time dilation on a planet orbiting a black hole if you are going to butcher it. Just say "1 hour = 7 years on earth" and make the audience deal with it. In Avatar did Cameron try to explain why certain areas float? No, he just lets the hero mutter something about "superconductors" and then gets on with it. The fact that Nolan went to such efforts as to properly render a blackhole are a prime example of this. This movie was not supposed to be pure fiction, it's supposed to be fiction grounded in reality, only problem is he got everything wrong so it's annoying. It would be like if Star Trek suddenly introduced muted action scenes because there's no sound in space, but then put air brakes on the Enterprise.

Just because they use an idea in a movie doesn't mean they have to have everything mathematically correct.

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Don't hate. Great movie obv

On November 10 2014 14:49 traxamillion wrote: Just because they use an idea in a movie doesn't mean they have to have everything mathematically correct. + Show Spoiler + And all you guys knocking the science a respected PHD breaks out equations and shows that most everything in the movie is theoretically possible down to falling into a black hole, avoiding the singularity, and ending up in some 5 dimensional space. Don't hate. Great movie obv

seriously. it's called a fuckign premise.

On November 08 2014 21:48 NewbSaibot wrote: Movie was awful, so much junk science I was pulling my hair out. I thought the director took some science classes to have a better understanding of physics and space travel, instead he just got everything wrong from the design of the ship to how it should fly, etc. Mind you I am no physicist, but I've spent a fair amount of time wikipedia'ing concepts for space travel and think I know enough about how bad this movie failed at it. Movie filled with unnecessary plot devices as nothing more than excuses to create the next conflict. I was actually worried when it came in at like 70% on rotten tomatoes, since this movie should have been a 90% or better. That 70% is probably a very generous 70% too given by critics who dont know the first thing about space travel so they are ranking it more on story and drama. Movie is really like a 60%. + Show Spoiler + I have not proof read my own rant here so it may be filled with typo's and other grammatical errors. Just too pissed 1. The design of the ship is all wrong. Artificial gravity be means of centrifugal force would require a ship 100x that size to properly implement. In order to achieve earth-like gravity you need to rotate at about 1 rpm. The mass of the ship would be something akin to the ring in Elysium to be able to rotate at 1 rpm without making you sick. If you were to subject humans to 15rpm’s or whatever that ship was spinning at everyone would be puking their brains out. Not to mention the fact that with such a tight radius from the center of the ship, gravity would be exponentially worse with every foot you were away from the surface. This means that their feet would experience earth gravity while their heads were feeling maybe 50% of the effect. It would be intolerable. To top it off, the fucking cockpit is rotating with them dead fucking center of the ship. This would mean the pilots experience almost no gravity at all, and of course would just be getting dizzy as fuck. If you’re going to put the cockpit in the center then it should be attached to some kind of wheel so it can spin freely, and thus maintain a stable straight position, since you don’t need gravity while piloting the fucking ship. 2. OMFG with that speaking robot Tars. Was this Nolan’s Jar Jar Binks? Totally unnecessary and incredibly annoying. Aside from the ridiculous design which I’ll give a pass on since maybe NASA has considered a walking rover like this, it has personality? COME ON. We do not need a goofy fucking side-kick cracking one-liners in a drama in order to bring humor to the intensity of it all. Especially once that has mastered all the language and mannerisms of human comedy that he’s indistinguishable from a standup comic. Just completely fucking annoying and pointless. 3. A wormhole placed by aliens or humans from the future, but placed near Saturn? WHY? WHY PLACE IT SO FUCKING FAR AWAY? I’m still not sure who the whole “they” are supposed to be, but at the end it sounds like since Mathew is communicating with himself from the future that humans more or less are responsible for creating this gateway to warn themselves in the past about their demise. Even if I’m completely wrong here, it still makes no sense to place a wormhole in an arbitrary location like right behind Saturn. This is one of those plot devices I speak of, to do nothing other than make it somewhat difficult for humans to get to it and thus introduce struggle. 4. We finally make it to the first planet and they spend all of 15 minutes of movie time there. But before we got to that, this whole preposterous idea of an entire planet being stuck in time dilation. I’m sorry Nolan but that’s not how it fucking works. There’s no such thing as a planet or any other object that just because it orbits a black hole is therefore experiencing time in slow motion. The only potential possibility for this would be a planet traveling at or near lightspeed, which of course would make it impossible to land on, nevermind the fact that any such physical body would basically be destroyed long before reaching that speed. Nevertheless, the crew lands there and fucks up and gets caught in a tidal wave, fine whatever. But then he cant start because “the engines are flooded”?!?! LOL WTF! What is this spacecraft of theirs, a goddamn 60’s drag racer? Ok maybe it has some kind of hybrid atmosphere combusting engine that is more efficient than burning pure rocket fuel. The whole setup is still stupid. And our hero Tars comes to the rescue, if he can fucking cartwheel 30mph across the water then why the fuck didn’t he just do that immediately to save them? In fact why don’t they just ride him around like a fucking go kart wherever they need to go? 5. Matt Damon – I’ll give this a pass because it was kind of exciting, but still a total copout to put a villain in a movie like this. The struggle of making it to the new world and exploring was challenging enough, no need to put a psychopath on board who wants to kill everyone to save himself. Kinda reminds me of the movie “sunshine”. Really mysterious and interesting attempt to reignite the sun, crew stumbles upon old ship which they though was lost from a previous mission, only to discover a ravenous freddy Krueger like badguy trying to kill them all. Just UNNECESSARY. 6. The black hole. For starters, any black hole that you could possible orbit around would have to be at such a great distance to avoid being sucked into it that you couldn’t even see it with the naked eye. You cant just orbit a black hole fucking 100 miles out and look at it every day from your bedroom window. You’d have to orbit it from like a fucking lightyear away or some shit. Whatever, he goes to travel inside of it. Now this is another one of these annoying “zomg what is on the other side?!” questions people think science hasn’t answered. It has. A black hole isn’t a fucking hole. It’s just a goddamn body of mass who’s gravity is so strong light cant escape, hence it looks black. If you were to plunge into it you would be crushed, that’s it. If the gravity were just weak enough to let light escape then it would look like any other spherical body out there. Perhaps it would look like a planet, or maybe a scorching hot bright light. Point is that it doesn’t do anything special. You would be crushed like a pancake and die, that’s it. The only theory behind them is that what if the gravity is so strong that it bends space or time and thus you really could experience something besides death if you traveled into it? Well that’s fine and dandy, but you certainly couldn’t get out of it, so you’re still fucked if you ever go into one. 7. But he dives in and what in the fuck happened next is beyond me. Just some emotional time-rift bullshit communicating with his daughter blah blah fucking blah. Whats wrong with just saying maybe aliens really did send us the message about the wormhole? You know what a far better wormhole discovery movie is? CONTACT. Which is hilarious because it also stars McConaughey. Humans receive a message from aliens in a very believable fashion, returned via the same source it was sent in through a method that we might figure out, by an aliens species who returns all messages like this whether the recipient gets it or not. We construct a device that we have no comprehension about using their instructions, we visit them, and we come back. Even that movie got the time dilation effect backwards with Jodie experiencing 4 hours and earth experiencing 4 seconds, but besides that one fuckup the movie was great. No badguys (besides the suicide bomber but he didn’t affect anything since they already had a backup portal, plus he only represented about 5 minutes worth of the movie) and a mystery from the perspective of the scientists on ground. The movie made as much sense as can be made when dealing with sci-fi. Thing is if you cant get the science right then don’t make a sci-fi film that tries so hard to be realistic. Make fucking star trek or star wars or something where it’s the characters and action that drive it forward. If you want to be Kubrick and make the next 2001 then you better know your shit. Reminds me of Gravity which I also hated. “Oh it’s so realistic, there’s no sound in outer space!” Shit that movie actually begins with that reminder on screen for all the dipshits who don’t understand this concept, so that they wont be all confused when all the explosions are silent. But even then the movie is absurd with the whole satellite debris from a botched demolition and then jetpacking around in space and finding the Chinese space station etc etc. /RANT OVER

uh....why dont u stick with a documentary like cosmos jesus fucking chirst...

you're like the pointdexter during lucy who says "actually we dont use just 10% of our brain" lmao.

Bullshit. If Tom Hanks held his breath, crawled outside and jumped from the LEM to the Command module in Apollo 13 you'd give him a free pass because "dude it's a movie"??? If you're going to make a movie that prides itself on using physicists to help direct the film then you dont get to blunder it by allowing the astronauts to just chill orbiting a black hole within eye sight. Either go full fantasy or full reality, you cant have both.

And lucy makes that one argument to set up the remainder of the film which is pure fantasy. Interstellar uses numerous scientific arguments to set up the remainder of the film which is supposed to be potential possibility, two very different things. You cant criticize Lucy because it's not supposed to be taken seriously. But blackholes exist, wormholes might exist, other habitable worlds probably exist, which makes this movie grounded in reality.

On November 09 2014 14:46 traxamillion wrote: It was surprisingly well acted and emotional. I can see how that is a negative for many people but it adds a dimension 2001 never had. Best movie ever though?... Maybe This one was a mix of Gravity plus a real movie Or 2001 plus a drama

interesting view, i actually thought there wasn't enough drama/exploration of relationships in this movie. anne hathaway barely even has a character to play, and the conflicts were a bit silly. it was a fun ride tho, def recommend in imax. didn't think the movie needed the "action" scene either.

i really loved gravity, and thought the exploration of isolation/existentialism tones were very subtle and well conveyed (pretty hard thing to do in a movie imo)

I actually liked gravity too that was just a tongue in cheek comment based on criticism of that movie to give you an idea of what interstellar is like

And newb you can't compare interstellar with Apollo13. One is a biopic on a real past event. Interstellar is just fantasy with ideas rooted in reality. So what if the ship couldn't really fly through the accretion disk or so close. Would you really want to see it orbiting a light year away in empty space? How exciting. It is still a movie meant to entertain and part of that is obviously the spectacle of the cosmos and that imagery

Watched this over the weekend and not once did I check my watch to see how much time was left. For a movie that's almost 3 hours, and for how fidgety I get sitting in a seat, that's pretty huge.

On November 08 2014 21:48 NewbSaibot wrote: Movie was awful, so much junk science I was pulling my hair out. I thought the director took some science classes to have a better understanding of physics and space travel, instead he just got everything wrong from the design of the ship to how it should fly, etc. Mind you I am no physicist, but I've spent a fair amount of time wikipedia'ing concepts for space travel and think I know enough about how bad this movie failed at it. Movie filled with unnecessary plot devices as nothing more than excuses to create the next conflict. I was actually worried when it came in at like 70% on rotten tomatoes, since this movie should have been a 90% or better. That 70% is probably a very generous 70% too given by critics who dont know the first thing about space travel so they are ranking it more on story and drama. Movie is really like a 60%. + Show Spoiler + I have not proof read my own rant here so it may be filled with typo's and other grammatical errors. Just too pissed 1. The design of the ship is all wrong. Artificial gravity be means of centrifugal force would require a ship 100x that size to properly implement. In order to achieve earth-like gravity you need to rotate at about 1 rpm. The mass of the ship would be something akin to the ring in Elysium to be able to rotate at 1 rpm without making you sick. If you were to subject humans to 15rpm’s or whatever that ship was spinning at everyone would be puking their brains out. Not to mention the fact that with such a tight radius from the center of the ship, gravity would be exponentially worse with every foot you were away from the surface. This means that their feet would experience earth gravity while their heads were feeling maybe 50% of the effect. It would be intolerable. To top it off, the fucking cockpit is rotating with them dead fucking center of the ship. This would mean the pilots experience almost no gravity at all, and of course would just be getting dizzy as fuck. If you’re going to put the cockpit in the center then it should be attached to some kind of wheel so it can spin freely, and thus maintain a stable straight position, since you don’t need gravity while piloting the fucking ship. 2. OMFG with that speaking robot Tars. Was this Nolan’s Jar Jar Binks? Totally unnecessary and incredibly annoying. Aside from the ridiculous design which I’ll give a pass on since maybe NASA has considered a walking rover like this, it has personality? COME ON. We do not need a goofy fucking side-kick cracking one-liners in a drama in order to bring humor to the intensity of it all. Especially once that has mastered all the language and mannerisms of human comedy that he’s indistinguishable from a standup comic. Just completely fucking annoying and pointless. 3. A wormhole placed by aliens or humans from the future, but placed near Saturn? WHY? WHY PLACE IT SO FUCKING FAR AWAY? I’m still not sure who the whole “they” are supposed to be, but at the end it sounds like since Mathew is communicating with himself from the future that humans more or less are responsible for creating this gateway to warn themselves in the past about their demise. Even if I’m completely wrong here, it still makes no sense to place a wormhole in an arbitrary location like right behind Saturn. This is one of those plot devices I speak of, to do nothing other than make it somewhat difficult for humans to get to it and thus introduce struggle. 4. We finally make it to the first planet and they spend all of 15 minutes of movie time there. But before we got to that, this whole preposterous idea of an entire planet being stuck in time dilation. I’m sorry Nolan but that’s not how it fucking works. There’s no such thing as a planet or any other object that just because it orbits a black hole is therefore experiencing time in slow motion. The only potential possibility for this would be a planet traveling at or near lightspeed, which of course would make it impossible to land on, nevermind the fact that any such physical body would basically be destroyed long before reaching that speed. Nevertheless, the crew lands there and fucks up and gets caught in a tidal wave, fine whatever. But then he cant start because “the engines are flooded”?!?! LOL WTF! What is this spacecraft of theirs, a goddamn 60’s drag racer? Ok maybe it has some kind of hybrid atmosphere combusting engine that is more efficient than burning pure rocket fuel. The whole setup is still stupid. And our hero Tars comes to the rescue, if he can fucking cartwheel 30mph across the water then why the fuck didn’t he just do that immediately to save them? In fact why don’t they just ride him around like a fucking go kart wherever they need to go? 5. Matt Damon – I’ll give this a pass because it was kind of exciting, but still a total copout to put a villain in a movie like this. The struggle of making it to the new world and exploring was challenging enough, no need to put a psychopath on board who wants to kill everyone to save himself. Kinda reminds me of the movie “sunshine”. Really mysterious and interesting attempt to reignite the sun, crew stumbles upon old ship which they though was lost from a previous mission, only to discover a ravenous freddy Krueger like badguy trying to kill them all. Just UNNECESSARY. 6. The black hole. For starters, any black hole that you could possible orbit around would have to be at such a great distance to avoid being sucked into it that you couldn’t even see it with the naked eye. You cant just orbit a black hole fucking 100 miles out and look at it every day from your bedroom window. You’d have to orbit it from like a fucking lightyear away or some shit. Whatever, he goes to travel inside of it. Now this is another one of these annoying “zomg what is on the other side?!” questions people think science hasn’t answered. It has. A black hole isn’t a fucking hole. It’s just a goddamn body of mass who’s gravity is so strong light cant escape, hence it looks black. If you were to plunge into it you would be crushed, that’s it. If the gravity were just weak enough to let light escape then it would look like any other spherical body out there. Perhaps it would look like a planet, or maybe a scorching hot bright light. Point is that it doesn’t do anything special. You would be crushed like a pancake and die, that’s it. The only theory behind them is that what if the gravity is so strong that it bends space or time and thus you really could experience something besides death if you traveled into it? Well that’s fine and dandy, but you certainly couldn’t get out of it, so you’re still fucked if you ever go into one. 7. But he dives in and what in the fuck happened next is beyond me. Just some emotional time-rift bullshit communicating with his daughter blah blah fucking blah. Whats wrong with just saying maybe aliens really did send us the message about the wormhole? You know what a far better wormhole discovery movie is? CONTACT. Which is hilarious because it also stars McConaughey. Humans receive a message from aliens in a very believable fashion, returned via the same source it was sent in through a method that we might figure out, by an aliens species who returns all messages like this whether the recipient gets it or not. We construct a device that we have no comprehension about using their instructions, we visit them, and we come back. Even that movie got the time dilation effect backwards with Jodie experiencing 4 hours and earth experiencing 4 seconds, but besides that one fuckup the movie was great. No badguys (besides the suicide bomber but he didn’t affect anything since they already had a backup portal, plus he only represented about 5 minutes worth of the movie) and a mystery from the perspective of the scientists on ground. The movie made as much sense as can be made when dealing with sci-fi. Thing is if you cant get the science right then don’t make a sci-fi film that tries so hard to be realistic. Make fucking star trek or star wars or something where it’s the characters and action that drive it forward. If you want to be Kubrick and make the next 2001 then you better know your shit. Reminds me of Gravity which I also hated. “Oh it’s so realistic, there’s no sound in outer space!” Shit that movie actually begins with that reminder on screen for all the dipshits who don’t understand this concept, so that they wont be all confused when all the explosions are silent. But even then the movie is absurd with the whole satellite debris from a botched demolition and then jetpacking around in space and finding the Chinese space station etc etc. /RANT OVER

A+, agree with ur sentiment, but you are wrong, gravitational time dilatations does exist

the last good nolans was memento. sue me.
the prestige was actually solid as well

I think this move is solid, but saying it is movie of the year is LOL, also it's previous 9.4 and current 9.0 score on imdb is sooooo wrong, this movie is 8 out of 10 tops ;o

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/11/11/neil-degrasse-tyson-breaks-down-interstellar-black-holes-time-dilations-and-massive-waves.html

For all the Physics PhD's in this thread.