bovada and rivers

delusional little shit

Did you ever get a HH converter for Bovada? You really need one so you can see the absurd play there (thanks to exposed hole cards). You definitely wont want to play on another site if you see just how badly people are playing there. Take a stroll through the "absurd poker thinking" thread on 2p2 to get an idea of your average Bovada player's thought process.

i have the converter. they only do hole cards in your recent hand history, not the one you can dl. or at least for me. i know people play bad there, but im getting sucked out on quite a bit. AA v T8s, AK v AJ, KK v QQ, straight v flush, set v set. they don't fold and when the river hits, wham, they get there.

if you're down and making the right moves more often than not your wrong moves must be quite expensive

Bovada definitely exposes hole cards when using the downloadable version that you pick up 24 hours later. Sometimes it is missing a few hole cards here and there for unknown reasons, but for the most part it's all there.

I imagine Bovada Zoom has a collection of both impatient fish looking to just play lot of hands and some nitfish/nitregs nut peddling. Personally I had my biggest run of success in zoom half stacking so I could never value town myself too hard against any player. Since most fish dont buy in full anyway I didnt feel I was leaving too much money on the table. It also makes your decisions a lot easier since it's basically just flop/turn play with no river.

On July 30 2014 06:21 Santafairy wrote: if you're down and making the right moves more often than not your wrong moves must be quite expensive

weird, none of my dl'ed hands show the hole cards...

I just opened a random HH file unconverted and it looks like this:

Big Blind [ME] : Card dealt to a spot [7s 9c]
UTG : Card dealt to a spot [2s Ts]
UTG+1 : Card dealt to a spot [7c Ac]
UTG+2 : Card dealt to a spot [Qd 8d]
Dealer : Card dealt to a spot [3d 8c]
Small Blind : Card dealt to a spot [7d As]

What do you see?

hey dude, seems like you've exhausted the patience of most of the ppl here on LP.

i went through a few of your hands that you posted on LP, and just thought i'd post my 2c and general advice. i've put them below in a spoiler. feel free to read or ignore or use parts of it.

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On July 30 2014 16:53 Gnarly wrote: weird, none of my dl'ed hands show the hole cards...

I think you are using the Bovada Card Catcher instead of the Hand Converter? What HUD are you using for Bovada?

On the side note, I don't really play anon zoom because there is just no way to even try to exploit. I saw one guy on reddit who plays Zone but he said he really just used the most general strat. He was able to climb up from 5NL to 100NL in around 100k hands.

But man the normal games are insane! people will do all kinds of stupid shit vs you and you will just be so much happier even you can only 4-table.

My 3-week graph (I am even a shitty player):
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mnj, thanks for the post, however, the military isn't going to be an option. (one for family reasons, two because they won't let me in) ive actually gotten away from a lot of the shit that was going on in my life and the past month has been stressful (moving) but I think I've found a peaceful place to stay at least for a while. There's quite a few things I want to try, as "outs" for my current life, but poker, at least micro's, remains a hobby. I'd rather run a business than play full time, at least run the business than maybe when im older play full time. (something that's actually feasible and is in the 5 figures range.)

another thing about my hands is that quite a few of them are literally there to piss other users here off. maybe some people know my name on carbon, but I've been winning for a couple months on that site. i know i have a lot of improvements to make, but i think a majority of that would come from having actual poker buddies, which I have entirely 0. it's like trying to play BW by yourself: you just simply need some other people to give their perspective on your game.

my ev line is exactly where my profit line is at and there's not a single difference in the two

PokerStars Zoom Hand #2898640957: Hold'em No Limit ($0.02/$0.05) - 2014/07/28 22:21:17
Table '#195' 6-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: UTGplus1 ($10.18 in chips)
Seat 2: Hero ($4.69 in chips)
Seat 3: Dealer ($6.49 in chips)
Seat 4: Small Blind ($4.59 in chips)
Seat 5: Big Blind ($4.82 in chips)
Seat 6: UTG ($2.64 in chips)
Small Blind: posts small blind $0.02
Big Blind: posts big blind $0.05
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [4d 5d]
UTG: folds
UTGplus1: folds
Hero: raises $0.15 to $0.15
Dealer: folds
Small Blind: calls $0.13
Big Blind: folds
*** FLOP *** [Qd 6c Kh]
Small Blind: checks
Hero: bets $0.30
Small Blind: calls $0.30
*** TURN *** [Qd 6c Kh]
Small Blind: checks
Hero: bets $0.60
Small Blind: calls $0.60
*** RIVER *** [Qd 6c Kh 8d]
Small Blind: checks
Hero: bets $1.20
Small Blind: raises $2.40 to $2.40
Hero: raises $1.24 to $3.64 and is all-in
Small Blind: calls $1.14 and is all-in
Uncalled bet ($0.10) returned to Hero
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Hero: doesn't show hand
Small Blind: Mucks [Qc Kd] (Two pair)
Hero collected $8.77 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $9.23 | Rake $0.46
Board [Qd 6c Kh 8d 7h]
Seat 1: UTGplus1 mucked
Seat 2: Hero won ($8.77)
Seat 3: Dealer (button) mucked
Seat 4: Small Blind (small blind) mucked
Seat 5: Big Blind (big blind) mucked
Seat 6: UTG mucked

This hand was actually shown. Right?

PokerStars Zoom Hand #2894019343: Hold'em No Limit ($0.02/$0.05) - 2014/07/19 17:10:55
Table '#138' 6-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: Big Blind ($5.23 in chips)
Seat 2: UTG ($7.66 in chips)
Seat 3: Hero ($5.50 in chips)
Seat 4: UTGplus2 ($6.50 in chips)
Seat 5: Dealer ($4.91 in chips)
Seat 6: Small Blind ($2.47 in chips)
Small Blind: posts small blind $0.02
Big Blind: posts big blind $0.05
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [Kh Ks]
UTG: folds
UTG: Seat re-join
Hero: raises $0.20 to $0.20
UTGplus2: folds
Dealer: raises $0.35 to $0.35
Small Blind: folds
Big Blind: folds
Hero: raises $0.85 to $1.05
Dealer: calls $0.70
*** FLOP *** [9h Js 8c]
Hero: bets $2.10
Dealer: raises $1.76 to $3.86 and is all-in
Hero: calls $1.76
*** TURN *** [9h Js 8c]
*** RIVER *** [9h Js 8c Qh]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Hero: doesn't show hand
Dealer: doesn't show hand
Hero collected $9.4 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $9.89 | Rake $0.49
Board [9h Js 8c Qh 9c]
Seat 1: Big Blind (big blind) mucked
Seat 2: UTG mucked
Seat 3: Hero won ($9.4)
Seat 4: UTGplus2 mucked
Seat 5: Dealer (button) lost
Seat 6: Small Blind (small blind) mucked

But then most are like this. Since I called him, he must show, right?

edit: im using the hand converter from ace solutions. can you get an actual HUD while playing bovada?

That was a converted hand, what does the original unmodified hand history file look like? There is an option in the converter to treat zoom tables differently, maybe you have something misconfigured so it's not able to properly rescript the HH files. Dig up an unconverted HH and post it.

Yes you can use a HUD on Bovada using Holdem Indicator. It wont do you any good in zoom other than monitoring your own play stats. But it works just fine for normal ring games.

>hold em indi
>79
>EURO

Is sportsbook even worth putting fiddy on?

Seat 1: Big Blind [ME] ($5 in chips)
Seat 2: UTG ($4.90 in chips)
Seat 3: UTG+1 ($1.17 in chips)
Seat 4: UTG+2 ($3.03 in chips)
Seat 5: Dealer ($2.50 in chips)
Seat 6: Small Blind ($4.61 in chips)
Dealer : Set dealer/Bring in spot [5]
Small Blind : Ante/Small Blind $0.02
Big Blind [ME] : Big blind/Bring in $0.05
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Big Blind [ME] : Card dealt to a spot [2d 3h]
UTG : Card dealt to a spot [Td 6s]
UTG+1 : Card dealt to a spot [As 6c]
UTG+2 : Card dealt to a spot [Tc Kh]
Dealer : Card dealt to a spot [7h Kc]
Small Blind : Card dealt to a spot [5s 6h]
UTG : Folds
UTG : Leave(Auto)
Dealer : Leave(Auto)
UTG+1 : Folds
UTG+1 : Leave(Auto)
UTG+2 : Calls $0.05
Dealer : Folds
Small Blind : Calls $0.03
Big Blind [ME] : Checks
*** FLOP *** [Ts Jh 4d]
Small Blind : Checks
Big Blind [ME] : Checks
UTG+2 : Bets $0.05
Small Blind : Folds
Small Blind : Leave(Auto)
Big Blind [ME] : Folds
Big Blind [ME] : Leave(Auto)
UTG+2 : Return uncalled portion of bet $0.05
UTG+2 : Does not show [Tc Kh] (One pair)
UTG+2 : Hand result $0.15
UTG+2 : Leave(Auto)
Enter(Auto)
Enter(Auto)
Enter(Auto)
Enter(Auto)
Enter(Auto)
Enter(Auto)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total Pot($0.15)
Board [Ts Jh 4d ]
Seat+1: Big Blind Folded on the FLOP
Seat+2: UTG Folded before the FLOP
Seat+3: UTG+1 Folded before the FLOP
Seat+4: UTG+2 $0.15 [Does not show]
Seat+5: Dealer lost with High Card [7h Kc]
Seat+6: Small Blind Folded on the FLOP

if poker is your hobby stop crying over it all over this website you dumb donk

but my tears are going to flood this site
better build your ark