TUF 19 Finale: Team Edgar vs. Team Penn

none of the streams are up, am i early?

On July 06 2014 17:10 milkman wrote: none of the streams are up, am i early?

I can't find a stream for this card, probably cuz it's a TUF Finale card where 80% of the card is on free television. Drysdale just wrecked his opponents leg via submission (so I've read).

If you need a stream for the non-Fight Pass fights, I'll post one. I'll be watching those fights on TV though.
Just 1 fight left on Fight Pass.

Wow that was AWFUL I was clearly wrong as shit on Dufresne even if I do steal a decision. Unreal how different she looked than the shitty fights I saw her in. That's what going more than 2 minutes will do to you when your a low level WMMA fighter.

And I lose, deserved it, terrible.

On July 06 2014 17:53 soberstone wrote: And I lose, deserved it, terrible.

I bought into the hype too. Too bad Dufresne had no gas tank...

Time to focus on the rest of the card, which is on television.

I like both Edgar and Penn, I put 50% of my bank on Edgar but I want Penn to win because he is one of my favorite fighters and also because I hate the kids who always say that BJ is a shitty fighter and know nothing about his legacy.

I have a 3-team parlay that ends with o4.5 rounds, and BJ Penn +380 for $20. Hopefully BJ hasn't lost any of his toughness when he moved down to 145, that way I can at least hit the Over.

I am more excited than I thought I would be

wtf... BJ looks like shit out there with his weird striking stance that he's never used before... wtf...

o.O BJ is throwing little girl punches WHAT THE HELL!

Jesus Christ... This is the saddest thing I've ever seen...

2 units on Edgar -13.5 points at -250.

that was very sad, bj needs to stay retired

noo Bj ;(

Shit BJ crying at 18:50 broke my heart T__T

That's what's going to happen to Silva when/if he comes back imo. Maybe he wins one or two fights against low-level opponents but the moment he faces someone like Weidman or other top opposition he's going to get smashed imo. I wish athletes who are already millionaire would know when to retire. Not like Silva need any money imo but I suppose there's never 'too much money'.

On July 07 2014 10:34 Raidern wrote: That's what's going to happen to Silva when/if he comes back imo. Maybe he wins one or two fights against low-level opponents but the moment he faces someone like Weidman or other top opposition he's going to get smashed imo. I wish athletes who are already millionaire would know when to retire. Not like Silva need any money imo but I suppose there's never 'too much money'.

True the thought of Wanderlei vs Sonnen/Belfort seems so laughable now. He should retire. There are worse ways to retire than a win over Brian Stann and he is going to have to sit out a huge suspension anyways.

Wanderlei Silva is washed up for a long time and there are many rumors he fought in fixed fights prior to the UFC.
Still entertaining style but he has not evolved enough from back then, he is mainly a brawler.
Anderson Silva on the other hand, he never looked bad against anyone except for Weidman. And he only looked bad for a certain time, I still think he can come back and be a top fighter for a bit. Just hope he stays motivated for a while to show good fights and stays injury free

On July 07 2014 10:34 Raidern wrote: That's what's going to happen to Silva when/if he comes back imo. Maybe he wins one or two fights against low-level opponents but the moment he faces someone like Weidman or other top opposition he's going to get smashed imo. I wish athletes who are already millionaire would know when to retire. Not like Silva need any money imo but I suppose there's never 'too much money'.

If you mean Anderson Silva, I don't think his situation is really comparable to Penn's... He's older, and that injury was brutal, but I don't think he's ever been known for not taking care of himself between fights or not training hard, unlike BJ.

Main worry for me with Anderson would be if his athleticism has started to erode or the change of body composition following long break and rehab lowers his performance, sort of in a Roy Jones coming back down from heavy weight kind of way.

BJ Penn's trainer: 'I would never in a million years develop that new style' for BJ Penn

"I would never in a million years develop that new style. Never in a million years.I got called a week before the fight to work his corner for the fight, so I, myself, hadn't spent time in camp at all with B.J. ... I answered yes automatically because he's my friend. So I didn't know. They explained to me kind of the gameplan the week of the fight, and I was actually rooming with his boxing coach the whole week, so I was listening to him, talking to him about what they were doing. At that point, it's not my position to make any adjustments, like, ‘no, no, no, let's do this, let's do that,' because it's too late for that. It's too late. He's been doing this shit for two years. What, am I going to come in the week of the fight and change a whole gameplan? Change a whole style around? That's not going to happen, nor does B.J. want me to make that happen. He doesn't want that to happen, he wants to go in there with want they have planned."

"Everybody and their mother is calling me up going, what the fuck? They're going, 'what the fuck, Jay? What is that?' And I'm like, 'I don't know.' If you can see it (not working) on TV, I can imagine how the audience is seeing it. But, you know, that's B.J. B.J. gets something set in his head and he likes it, and apparently it was working for him in the gym, so he wanted to go from there. I wanted him bending his knees. It's called sitting down on your punch in boxing, and that way you can use your legs to help with your head movement, help with your footwork, help with all this stuff. He just says he doesn't like that style anymore because it made him too tired. So at the end of the day, what can I do? He's my friend and I've got to support him. I always have and I always will."

http://www.mmamania.com/2014/7/8/5881...rillo-new-style-frankie-edgar-tko-ufc