how bad is taking 2-3 shots per day

On June 14 2014 19:49 TheHuHu3 wrote: Nothing at all. Three drinks a day that spans over as little as 8-12 hours is nothing. I'm sure there are even some benefits to it. Source : Dota 2 pro.

wats your sn, and you mean dota2 BRO

after 30-40 years you will be down about 100k$

On June 14 2014 20:02 goose58 wrote: It depends on which expert you ask, which study you read, and which health condition you are concerned about.

This is the only correct answer.

Other than, yes, it's not good for you.

1 shot is better

its considered 25-50ml/daily alcohol to be good for you - depending on what type of alcohol
going out of lane could potentially have the effects of cocaine in the long term


I wonder if the data in wiki is considering pure alcohol, like if the drink is 40% alcohol and you sip 100ml, do they consider that as 100ml or 40ml, makes a great difference

liver failure.

ask construction workers

I read an article recently debunking the whole '2 glasses of wine a day is good for you' train of thought. It was from a reputable source too, maybe bbc? I just searched for ~5 minutes and can't find it, so, whatever.

But I mean, booze is a poison. And no, not a 'pshhh' poison like fluoride, but a real, hardcore poison. As such, I find it hard to think even the tiniest amount is good for you. Unless you want to let loose and party wheoooooo!

Article by Alan Aragon (one of the most respected nutrition and fitness researchers nowadays)

http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_a...unny/a_muscleheads_guide_to_alcohol_1

On June 15 2014 10:36 devon06atX wrote: I read an article recently debunking the whole '2 glasses of wine a day is good for you' train of thought. It was from a reputable source too, maybe bbc? I just searched for ~5 minutes and can't find it, so, whatever. But I mean, booze is a poison. And no, not a 'pshhh' poison like fluoride, but a real, hardcore poison. As such, I find it hard to think even the tiniest amount is good for you. Unless you want to let loose and party wheoooooo!

i think it definitely is poison. i think the ability to go out and hang with coworkers and blow off steam, this actually what the "health benefits" of alcohol are.

a) you have friends/coworkers you can drink with
b) you talk shit over
c) that community helps u manage stress
d) the relieved damage to your heart through releasing stress >>> the damages to your liver

like if you didnt have parts a,b and c, i don't think the 1 cup or 2 cups of wine will have any health benefits.

On June 15 2014 12:27 mnj wrote: Show nested quote + On June 15 2014 10:36 devon06atX wrote: I read an article recently debunking the whole '2 glasses of wine a day is good for you' train of thought. It was from a reputable source too, maybe bbc? I just searched for ~5 minutes and can't find it, so, whatever. But I mean, booze is a poison. And no, not a 'pshhh' poison like fluoride, but a real, hardcore poison. As such, I find it hard to think even the tiniest amount is good for you. Unless you want to let loose and party wheoooooo! i think it definitely is poison. i think the ability to go out and hang with coworkers and blow off steam, this actually what the "health benefits" of alcohol are. a) you have friends/coworkers you can drink with b) you talk shit over c) that community helps u manage stress d) the relieved damage to your heart through releasing stress >>> the damages to your liver like if you didnt have parts a,b and c, i don't think the 1 cup or 2 cups of wine will have any health benefits.

Way to ask a question and then ignore the answers. The wiki article posted in the comments lists at least a dozen of health benefits of moderate consumption.

"Does alcohol destroy muscle mass? Maybe, but you have to drink a lot. Most of the human research on alcohol's effect on muscle-protein metabolism is on flat-out alcoholics who chronically consume more than 100 grams of ethanol — at least seven drinks — per day. Between one- and two-thirds of these drunks end up with "alcohol myopathy," a condition characterized by muscle weakness and atrophy, frequent falls, and difficulty walking. (14) The high alcohol intake tends to displace essential nutrients, which means casual drinkers aren't likely to lose their hard-earned muscle mass."

sorry dude. this isn't exactly what im looking for. i dont feel like muscle mass = health. alot of interesting stuff in there, but i was looking for health issues, not body building ones.

'Bottom line, alcohol isn't essential for good heath, and there's no reason to think it improves your performance in anything. But at the same time, moderate drinking (up to two drinks a day) might help protect your heart without having a negative effect on your quest to look good naked."

performance, iono if that's health related. he says nothing about alcohol and health. iono why u so mad

It's much better to stick to your bankroll limits. You'll be bust soon with taking so many shots a day.

Also, that song is not a song.

On June 15 2014 10:36 devon06atX wrote: I read an article recently debunking the whole '2 glasses of wine a day is good for you' train of thought. It was from a reputable source too, maybe bbc? I just searched for ~5 minutes and can't find it, so, whatever. But I mean, booze is a poison. And no, not a 'pshhh' poison like fluoride, but a real, hardcore poison. As such, I find it hard to think even the tiniest amount is good for you. Unless you want to let loose and party wheoooooo!

Alcohol is not poison. Cannabis is.

On June 15 2014 22:22 mnj wrote: 'Bottom line, alcohol isn't essential for good heath, and there's no reason to think it improves your performance in anything. But at the same time, moderate drinking (up to two drinks a day) might help protect your heart without having a negative effect on your quest to look good naked." performance, iono if that's health related. he says nothing about alcohol and health. iono why u so mad

I admit my link is geared toward the fitness side, but it does mention boosted immune system, lowered inflammation and decreased chance of heart disease.

The wikipedia link posted by goose58 includes the above mentioned plus a variety of other benefits of moderate consumption (reduces chances of getting kidney stones, gallstones, metabolic syndrome, osteoporosis, type 2 diabetes, rheumatoid arthritis).

so when you say

i think it definitely is poison. i think the ability to go out and hang with coworkers and blow off steam, this actually what the "health benefits" of alcohol are. a) you have friends/coworkers you can drink with b) you talk shit over c) that community helps u manage stress d) the relieved damage to your heart through releasing stress >>> the damages to your liver like if you didnt have parts a,b and c, i don't think the 1 cup or 2 cups of wine will have any health benefits.

it seems like you didn't read any of it. Which is fair enough, but then why bother asking?

the wiki had a lot of conflicting findings which isn't anything surprising with something like health benefits of alcohol. i would hardly say i'm "ignoring answers"

i tried to preface my statements with "i think" but perhaps that's not the best way to qualify a personal view. confounding variables, correlation not meaning causation are all fun topics we regularly talk about on this forum.

i was offering my best attempt of explaining something similar. how it's not the alcohol, or the vitamins, or the antioxidants, olive or coconut oil or X but the social foundation, family, friend, unit or Y that it implies.

i asked because there are medical advancements on a daily basis, and perhaps there was something i missed where we understood the exact metabolic pathway in which alcohol can help or detriment health.

i still find your comments provoking but it might just be my own personal perception

I'm pretty sure that there are studies out there that show that 2 drinks of alcohol per day for men and 1 drink per women is beneficial. The problem occurs when someone drinks more then that recommended amount each or most days for an excessive period of time. Three drinks is probably a bit too much for most people to see beneficial health effects, but it depends on weight as well.

On June 17 2014 18:17 Luhos wrote: I'm pretty sure that there are studies out there that show that 2 drinks of alcohol per day for men and 1 drink per women is beneficial. The problem occurs when someone drinks more then that recommended amount each or most days for an excessive period of time. Three drinks is probably a bit too much for most people to see beneficial health effects, but it depends on weight as well.

i'd also like to see this be true, but so far the evidence is definitely a mixed bag

" Alcohol at moderate levels has some positive and negative effects on health. The negative effects include increased risk of liver diseases, oropharyngeal cancer, esophageal cancer and pancreatitis. Conversely moderate intake of alcohol may have some beneficial effects on gastritis and cholelithiasis.[14] Of the total number of deaths and diseases caused by alcohol, most happen to the majority of the population who are moderate drinkers, rather than the heavy drinker minority."

I'm curious what sources you're looking at for the data. I'll look up some legit scientific studies tomorrow or friday and see what I can find, because I've always heard of beneficial effects with 1-2 drinks a day, but I've never looked up anything myself or seen the studies to verify. I'd imagine that this has been studied quite a bit with how many people around the world drink.