Bible Breakdown

"Adam and Eve exist within the individual."

This is part of the story of Genesis.

This reminds of the shit teacher were telling in high school about poems. Like, the poet was thinking about X, Y when writing this and that. Actually they werent thinking any of the likes, they were just alcoholics mostly or drug abusers or both :D (same goes for teachers? legit question).

Same applies for you as well. That is definitely not part of the Genesis story lol. Thats how you interpret it. But actually have no fking idea what the actual author thought.

On June 03 2014 15:04 napoleono wrote: Thats how you interpret it. But actually have no fking idea what the actual author thought.

I think there is a word for what I am trying to communicate. A clever sounding quip.

Is it....

Quid Pro Quo? For you, napoleono:

The Bible is to be understood under the idea that each author is actively exalting God to the highest place, and forgive the blasphemy, but if God is simply considered nature it can be said that each author of the Bible is reflecting and interpreting as clearly as he can His Very Nature.

Sick track

in an actual response, youre not likely to get many serious responses here given most of us are atheists and even more of us know little to nothing regarding psychology. but from skimming over what youve done, the one problem id have is that you are trying to make a ~3 thousand year old fictional story into a metaphor about things that werent known until very recently. whoever wrote genesis was not some psychology expert, it was just some guy who likely had a hallucination or dream or just wrote what he thought was a cool story and passed it around.

yep.
I'm reading this now

And it's hilarious how contemporary folk changed and molded the meaning of the bible as all the new undeniable discoveries came to light.

Some of the points in what you wrote do have the ideas reflecting psychology but these associations seem completely artificial and unnecessary

In any way, the whole summary of this is great and fascinating 2primenumbers. I thought it was really cool and definitely real to the core. I have experienced things that have made this interpretation very easy to understand, its very simple once you see things I guess. Until people want to raise their "presence" "consciousness" "awareness" or whatever, and try hard as fuck at it, its pretty much impossible to understand these things. Going through intense suffering won't illuminate knowledge on these matters either, but rather an intentional exploration of the subconscious ego through means like meditation etc. Or a person can choose to explore the superconscious, which is simply the real world in a more real way than they have before. This can be done by being alone in nature, its pretty much the only way I can do this successfully.

The only problem I have with all this religious spiritual stuff is this..... my favorite spiritual teacher says things that anybody can relate to. All the knowledge in the world won't help somebody if they don't "just do it". People who live their lives to be "good people" and with a purpose are living their lives better than very spiritually minded people sometimes. I have found that after a while knowledge is so easy, the wise actually DO. DOING is pretty scary when one wants to see life and the truth of themselves in its full reality every second, and make it better.

It seems that we have regressed hugely as a society in matters of the subconscious mind. I mean old cultures like Native Americans long ago would pass down their insight of the mind, and the adults would train their whole younger years in preparation to become adults (i.e. someone who never lets their mind control them ever again). Society these days doesn't give a shit about any of this, and it eventually will turn around, it has to. Too many scientific studies are coming out that show stress leads to illness and other bad things, and what easier way to control stress than to be free from fear, because you were raised to be that way? I've read up on old cultures and its pretty amazing. There are rites of passage to adulthood like a 6 month self journey into the wilderness alone as a 14 year old, the native american 4-5 day fast and vision quests, another tribe has a weird phenomenon where the children get so sick they can't move for around a year and they just lay around and journey into their mind and conquer their fears. A South American tribe does shamanic rituals with elders and does psychedelic drugs. A huge thing in all this is pretty much always some of the kids die. They simply go insane and fall to their fear instead of learning to know it and see fear for what it is.

Anyway, primenumbers, if you have any other stuff to share with me, please pm me, I'm always curious.

On June 04 2014 14:11 Big_Rob_isback wrote: In any way, the whole summary of this is great and fascinating 2primenumbers. I thought it was really cool and definitely real to the core. I have experienced things that have made this interpretation very easy to understand, its very simple once you see things I guess. Until people want to raise their "presence" "consciousness" "awareness" or whatever, and try hard as fuck at it, its pretty much impossible to understand these things. Going through intense suffering won't illuminate knowledge on these matters either, but rather an intentional exploration of the subconscious ego through means like meditation etc. Or a person can choose to explore the superconscious, which is simply the real world in a more real way than they have before. This can be done by being alone in nature, its pretty much the only way I can do this successfully. The only problem I have with all this religious spiritual stuff is this..... my favorite spiritual teacher says things that anybody can relate to. All the knowledge in the world won't help somebody if they don't "just do it". People who live their lives to be "good people" and with a purpose are living their lives better than very spiritually minded people sometimes. I have found that after a while knowledge is so easy, the wise actually DO. DOING is pretty scary when one wants to see life and the truth of themselves in its full reality every second, and make it better. It seems that we have regressed hugely as a society in matters of the subconscious mind. I mean old cultures like Native Americans long ago would pass down their insight of the mind, and the adults would train their whole younger years in preparation to become adults (i.e. someone who never lets their mind control them ever again). Society these days doesn't give a shit about any of this, and it eventually will turn around, it has to. Too many scientific studies are coming out that show stress leads to illness and other bad things, and what easier way to control stress than to be free from fear, because you were raised to be that way? I've read up on old cultures and its pretty amazing. There are rites of passage to adulthood like a 6 month self journey into the wilderness alone as a 14 year old, the native american 4-5 day fast and vision quests, another tribe has a weird phenomenon where the children get so sick they can't move for around a year and they just lay around and journey into their mind and conquer their fears. A South American tribe does shamanic rituals with elders and does psychedelic drugs. A huge thing in all this is pretty much always some of the kids die. They simply go insane and fall to their fear instead of learning to know it and see fear for what it is. Anyway, primenumbers, if you have any other stuff to share with me, please pm me, I'm always curious.

Hi Big Rob! Thanks for the good words. It is very true that there is some kind of.. passage or change.. before people really see where I am coming from here. Writing this stuff helps me lay down the law for myself and put some of the baggage behind me for others to possibly pick something useful out of as they rummage.

Those are some interesting rituals you mentioned. If I get the bug you will definitely come across another post sometime.

Best Regards,
RG