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enfant   Bulgaria. Apr 05 2014 12:46. Posts 388

Submitted by : enfant

PokerStars Zoom Hand #114344112758: Holdem No Limit ($0.10/$0.25) - 2014/04/05 19:39:58 EET [2014/04/05 12:39:58 ET]
Table Hydra 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: seasui917 ($47.14 in chips)
Seat 2: wiselgier ($32.78 in chips)
Seat 3: Drisovic ($17.81 in chips)
Seat 4: eastred8 ($24.40 in chips)
Seat 5: Hero ($57.45 in chips)
Seat 6: Luxcetus ($23.10 in chips)
wiselgier: posts small blind $0.10
Drisovic: posts big blind $0.25

Holecards
Dealt to Hero KhKs
eastred8: folds
Hero: raises $0.50 to $0.75
Luxcetus: folds
seasui917: calls $0.75
wiselgier: calls $0.65
Drisovic: folds

Flop (Pot : $2.50)

   7hQd3d
wiselgier: checks
Hero: bets $1.70
seasui917: raises $3.20 to $4.90
wiselgier: folds
Hero: calls $3.20

Turn (Pot : $12.30)

   7hQd3d3s
Hero: checks
seasui917: bets $8



Zoom hand, practically no info on the guy - just 14 hands (29/14/16.7).
Is this badly played? Should I 3-bet get in on the flop for 200BB?

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K40Cheddar   United States. Apr 05 2014 15:58. Posts 2202

I think flatting flop is fine. I'd call this turn and decide on river what to do next.

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GoTuNk   Chile. Apr 05 2014 17:10. Posts 2860

seems like an easy calldown, most ppl would slow play 77/QQ in this board. Turn is obv great for you as its more likely they would raise 33.

Smash your screen with the keyboard if river is A/diamond (specially Ad) and then decide between calling or folding


traxamillion   United States. Apr 05 2014 23:12. Posts 10468

No getting in flop would be a mistake flatting is fine. Decide whether to call down that would be the standard line but I wouldn't expect him to raise bomb hands worse than yours much looks like he had a set.

Given they are 200bb deep and the board I would not expect villain to slow play sets on the flop.


lebowski   Greece. Apr 07 2014 07:04. Posts 9205


  On April 05 2014 22:12 traxamillion wrote:
Given they are 200bb deep and the board I would not expect villain to slow play sets on the flop.

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Gnarly   United States. Apr 07 2014 10:01. Posts 1723


  On April 05 2014 22:12 traxamillion wrote:
No getting in flop would be a mistake flatting is fine. Decide whether to call down that would be the standard line but I wouldn't expect him to raise bomb hands worse than yours much looks like he had a set.

Given they are 200bb deep and the board I would not expect villain to slow play sets on the flop.



why not wait until the turn to maximize any punishment against possible flush draws? I fucking hate getting called by draws on the flop.

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K40Cheddar   United States. Apr 07 2014 19:42. Posts 2202


  On April 07 2014 09:01 Gnarly wrote:
I fucking hate getting called by draws on the flop.



You hate getting called by hands with worse equity?

GGLast edit: 07/04/2014 19:43

mnj   United States. Apr 07 2014 22:28. Posts 3848

im calling turn/river


RaiZ   France. Apr 08 2014 04:06. Posts 1503


  On April 05 2014 22:12 traxamillion wrote:
No getting in flop would be a mistake flatting is fine. Decide whether to call down that would be the standard line but I wouldn't expect him to raise bomb hands worse than yours much looks like he had a set.

Given they are 200bb deep and the board I would not expect villain to slow play sets on the flop.



Not sure to understand... You're saying he looks like he had a set, then proceed to think he'd not slowplay it... What ?

I must be confused. Afterall just woke up after a very long night + day live session...

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devon06atX   Canada. Apr 08 2014 12:31. Posts 5458

I don't get why people would slowplay any sets this deep? Especially considering the possible flush draw.

He doesn't have qq (most likely, as he would 3b pre). Again, most likely not 33.

Considering you don't know how he plays, it's difficult to see if he's protecting his hand w/ aq, or doing it with a draw of some sort.

I personally call turn and reevaluate river. And I agree with above posters, definitely don't get it in on flop. You're *hoping* to be against a flush draw. Or you're crushed. Unless villain is hammered and is going balls to the wall w/ aq, but that's highly unlikely.

edit - I just realised this post was useless since everything I said was already written.

 Last edit: 08/04/2014 13:12

traxamillion   United States. Apr 08 2014 16:17. Posts 10468


  On April 08 2014 03:06 RaiZ wrote:
Show nested quote +



Not sure to understand... You're saying he looks like he had a set, then proceed to think he'd not slowplay it... What ?

I must be confused. Afterall just woke up after a very long night + day live session...


Those things aren't mutually exclusive; villain does not slow play his hand here he raises flop and bets turn


enfant   Bulgaria. Apr 09 2014 02:40. Posts 388


  On April 08 2014 11:31 devon06atX wrote:
He doesn't have qq (most likely, as he would 3b pre). Again, most likely not 33.



That was my thinking at the moment too! I thought AQ, 77 or some wierd shit and called.
So, river is 6s and he bombs ~20$. I seriously doubt anyone will value bet this big here with AQ. So the hands that make sense for me here are: full house or missed FD. What do you do?

Many thanks for your replies everyone!

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Corde   United Kingdom. Apr 11 2014 08:58. Posts 1099

Fuck I call


 



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