A new player with some questions

First of all, Hello!
This is my first time posting here, the last 4 days ive decided to give hold'em a go,i have little to no expreience. ive read throu the beginners guides also watched the spacegravy sng videos and nanoko(?) cash game videos, and also picked up some tricks and tipps here and there over the internets, also i am a fellow Starcraft player as i suppose most of you guys are.

But to the point:
What is this 3 number ranking for players which i see lots of times when explaining hands or smth. I assume it has something to do with call-raise-fold attempts? And if so, are you guys using anykind of software to keep track of that?

By the way im playing micro stakes 0.01/0.02$ NL hold'em , Im pretty much having some ups and downs , im pretty much making a lots of bad decisions.Im trying to play on 4 tables at a time and at the start for the first 1 or 2 hours im pretty much just making profit (if someone can call micro stakes profit anyways lol) but then my game tends to get more loose(?)and i almost end up loosing all my hard earned( :D ) dollars at the end of the day.

holdemmanager.com / pokertracker.com for the numerical statistics u asked about

use the post hands section of this website to see what other people are doing.

http://www.gamblingsystem.biz/books/2p2NL6max.pdf

usually we will say x/y/z

x = VP($)IP = Voluntarily Put $ In Pot
y = PFR(%) = Preflop Raise %
z = 3bet% = 3-betting %

and all these are percentages

and I use fpdb for tracking stats for free.

Thank you guys!
Also can i apply the ranges given in that pdf for 9man nlhe on micro tables? with some changes maybe?

No, the ranges are for 6max, you generally want to be playing somewhere around 12-18% of your hands in full ring to start, and I'd suggest being closer to 12 then 18

On April 10 2014 11:07 Trav94 wrote: No, the ranges are for 6max, you generally want to be playing somewhere around 12-18% of your hands in full ring to start, and I'd suggest being closer to 12 then 18

i just went broke :DDD. started with 20$ my top was ~35$.
Im sure not many of you care but im just gonna write it out so i can just let go of the frustration. So far my expreince with this game on micro tables is:

- Playing againts players with 8-18 vpip was ridiculously easly , basicly they only call (they never raise lel) with TT+ AK-AT suited or not does not matter. Also when they happen to have a hand you can actually check till river and they dont even give a fuck. Once a guy checked me till showdown with pocket aces + ace on flop and took home the 3cent pot.The funnies way to play around them was limping in IP with trash cards basicly just to see the flop, and if there was no high cards i just raised 4bb and they fold out , if there are high cards in their ranges i just went for the check fold and cutting my 2cent call loose. This pretty much worked well i didnt check but im positive that i have ended up with +$ in the end with this. ALSO THESE PLAYES ARE UNABLE TO MAKE A FOLD AFTER THEY PUT IN 25% OF THEIR STACK.

-Playing against players with 19-45 vpip was the most "skill demanding". They played more hands obviously, took advantage of positions, also i noted that most of these players had high % on raising preflop , so i assumed they valuebet their top hands, they furiously play out their suited connectors even OOP, which felt really fucking annoying to play againts.Now the interesting this is that ~75% of these players are slow playing all day basicly checking nuts and then call-reraise for aggresors which was again fucking annoying to play againts. MOST OF THESE GUYS CAN MAKE A FOLD EVEN ON RIVER AFTER CBETING WITH NOTHING ( i guess this is called double barreling?) and this fact just made their OOP drawing hands really fearsome.
Most memorable shits ive got from this guys: preflop raise then call if someone reraises ( rarely on these tables) with basicly hands like 32o 72s 53o and the betting on flop where he was unable to improve thou... and going all in on turn with 5% chance of a flush or gutshot, and obviously they fucking draw that flush or gutshot like 95% of times which is supposed to be the other way around.

-Playing againts players with 46-100 ( there was one guy lol) vpip was IMPOSSIBLE these guys ALWAYS min raise when they have a strong hand but they consider 56o a strong hand OOP any day of the week so gl hf. If they are given a hand that they dont like you can be sure they will call anything under 12-14cent just to see a flop and fold IF they fold cause if they see a flop with AK2 rainbow having 27o in hand well its a pair of deuces so i guess we are not giving this hand up baaaaby.When they dont fold on flop they will go till showdown there is no way for you to stop them, they will call and reraise everything and shamelessly reload their pot when they lose it, not even giving it a thought that they should ever improve in this game. With all this in mind i still consider these players the MOST FUCKING HARDEST to play against, because they will easily dont give a fuck about your hand and your playstyle they are here to play the game and man they do. As i said before they will never fold if they get past flop and you can be sure even thou they have very little or even nothing they will shine with that quad deuces or ace high flush or whatever 5% chance to draw on turn and river hand you made them shove in for your pure 95% chance to win pot.
And the worst about all this, these guys are tend to even out, loosing 3$ on limping endlessly then making a miracle draw on some poor fella and winning back 3$.These are the type of guys whom made me broke in the long run.

How i see myself after ~2500 hands on micro tables:
I think i have made good reads on my enemies about 85% of times, which i base upon that i have managed to find weaknesses (not always for a type of player, but for an individual player), most of the time i could exploit it.I have improved a lot, i feel r+eally comfortable playing 4 tables, but i had no ballz for going up for like 10 tables at a time.i have gained a lots of expreince obviously, but most importantly I FREAKIN LOVE THIS GAME so im not giving up,eventhou that basicly badbeats made me broke, im going to upload more money in the coming days and im gonna grind those micro tables till i dont feel 100% comfortable and gonna improve my insight in every way possible.

If you guys can recommend articles, books, youtube channels, TV programs, anything regarding NLHE , please do so!
If you have managed to read all this then have my thanks good sir and gl for ur tables!

On April 11 2014 18:09 marchello wrote: -Playing againts players with 46-100 ( there was one guy lol) vpip was IMPOSSIBLE these guys ALWAYS min raise when they have a strong hand but they consider 56o a strong hand OOP any day of the week so gl hf. If they are given a hand that they dont like you can be sure they will call anything under 12-14cent just to see a flop and fold IF they fold cause if they see a flop with AK2 rainbow having 27o in hand well its a pair of deuces so i guess we are not giving this hand up baaaaby.When they dont fold on flop they will go till showdown there is no way for you to stop them, they will call and reraise everything and shamelessly reload their pot when they lose it, not even giving it a thought that they should ever improve in this game. With all this in mind i still consider these players the MOST FUCKING HARDEST to play against, because they will easily dont give a fuck about your hand and your playstyle they are here to play the game and man they do. As i said before they will never fold if they get past flop and you can be sure even thou they have very little or even nothing they will shine with that quad deuces or ace high flush or whatever 5% chance to draw on turn and river hand you made them shove in for your pure 95% chance to win pot. And the worst about all this, these guys are tend to even out, loosing 3$ on limping endlessly then making a miracle draw on some poor fella and winning back 3$.These are the type of guys whom made me broke in the long run.

So you don't like to play guys that feed you free money when you hit hands?

Is this real?

I like the analysis, but I think you can keep reading a bit more and playing a bit more, and you will realize that most of that is the opposite of what you think.

On April 12 2014 05:14 lhr0909 wrote: I like the analysis, but I think you can keep reading a bit more and playing a bit more, and you will realize that most of that is the opposite of what you think.

I was mad and exhausted #2am when i wrote that, no excuses thou.

On April 12 2014 09:58 marchello wrote: Show nested quote + On April 12 2014 05:14 lhr0909 wrote: I like the analysis, but I think you can keep reading a bit more and playing a bit more, and you will realize that most of that is the opposite of what you think. I was mad and exhausted #2am when i wrote that, no excuses thou.

oh, and make sure you use proper bankroll management when you play. $20 for 2NL is not enough i think. You would want to go somewhere around 20 buy-ins (each buy-in is 100bb) to be able to take a hit when you get unlucky. gl hf man!

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