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TianYuan    Korea (South). Mar 27 2014 03:36. Posts 6817

Such pretty graphs )

Big inspiration as always.

Hm.. Off-suite socks.. 

bigredhoss   Cook Islands. Mar 27 2014 04:55. Posts 8646

interesting, had no clue about the whole "cartel" thing at HU SNGs before. keep crushing helio =o


  Charles Hawk: Do you think it would be possible to be in relationship if you would be live cash reg?

Helio “hneves182” Neves: Everything is possible if you make the best out of it, I know a guy who lives in Vegas and is a live cash pro that is married with 2 kids and still manages to put in a lot of hours at the tables, and is quite stable.



wh00sel?

Truck-Crash LifeLast edit: 27/03/2014 05:02

player999   Brasil. Mar 27 2014 05:21. Posts 7978

yep

cartels are a pretty new thing, at least on smaller stakes than 1ks, it all started around the end of last year

Browsing through your hand histories makes me wonder that you might not be aware these games are possibly play money. Have you ever tried to cash out? - Kapol 

jvilla777   Australia. Mar 27 2014 05:34. Posts 1348

sick interview

longple: ur missing the point! this is an attempt to get away from the bumhuntmentality! 

LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Mar 27 2014 07:40. Posts 15163


  On March 27 2014 04:21 player999 wrote:
yep

cartels are a pretty new thing, at least on smaller stakes than 1ks, it all started around the end of last year


is that like allowed by stars?

93% Sure!  

player999   Brasil. Mar 27 2014 08:32. Posts 7978

would I really be openly discussing it if not?

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showpost.php?p=41622229&postcount=1735

Browsing through your hand histories makes me wonder that you might not be aware these games are possibly play money. Have you ever tried to cash out? - KapolLast edit: 27/03/2014 09:23

VanDerMeyde   Norway. Mar 27 2014 09:32. Posts 5108


"Helio “hneves182” Neves: The cartel groups work is simple: if you're in, you sit outsiders opensitting. That way we don't have the ridiculously large sharky lines that we had last year.

Charles Hawk: How about playing each other? Are you allowed to do that?

Helio “hneves182” Neves: Sure, nobody gets protection."


I didnt quite get this

:D 

gawdawaful   Canada. Mar 27 2014 10:06. Posts 9012

I dont understand the cartel thing either..

Im only good at poker when I run good 

player999   Brasil. Mar 27 2014 10:51. Posts 7978

Yeah, I just explained it without taking into account people that have 0 idea what it is would read it, and so did him, most of the site's audience has an idea at least.

HUsng lobbies work like this: a reg sits, waits for a fish, fish sits reg, next reg sits next lobby (could simulsit another reg). Then someone came up with a program that creates a line and let's you choose what you want, to sit an empty lobby and/or sit X type of opponentes (based on PS color note tag)

This created a bumhunter-like enviroment after a while, since a lot of regs wouldn't sit regs and just wait for their turn. After some time, people moved up and stakes started getting crowded, and nobody was beating newcomers down to the previous stakes. Some of us were trying, but the lines were still too big and at peak hours it was over 40ppl long to get a seat, play a fish in a 3mins match and go back to the end of the line.

So starting from the higher stakes, people started organizing and deciding that the better regs had to start pushing the worst ones/bumhunters down. The groups were formed and after battling and swapping members to get the best fighters inside, eventually things started looking better. At $100 stakes there were maybe 200-300 guys considered regs, today our group has 85, so we don't have to wait at the end of huge lines anymore

Hope that explains it a little bit. This made sure sngs wouldn't end up like HU cash, and it was possible because you're forced to play someone that sits you in a sng. So if you're weak you just gonna have to move the fk down.

Browsing through your hand histories makes me wonder that you might not be aware these games are possibly play money. Have you ever tried to cash out? - Kapol 

napoleono   Romania. Mar 27 2014 12:12. Posts 771

So what if you are not part of the group? Cant you just opensit anyone you want? Or even empty lobbies?


player999   Brasil. Mar 27 2014 15:31. Posts 7978

Obv anyone can sit anyone who is on a lobby, but if anyone but us gets an empty one, we snapsit that person. And the only way to play fish is by being on a empty lobby and waiting for a fish, so we have tham all to ourselves.

Browsing through your hand histories makes me wonder that you might not be aware these games are possibly play money. Have you ever tried to cash out? - Kapol 

mnj   United States. Mar 27 2014 16:55. Posts 3848

Woop woop


Fujikura   United States. Mar 27 2014 18:17. Posts 1795

sick interview man :D It was a nice read! Been hanging out with some of the hyper sng players here in the poker community in Mexico... when I first heard of them talking about the "cartel" I thought they were just trying to sound cool, didn't realize it was like a real thing until I read the interview Keep up the good work man, and congrats with the cute gf

aka SouL)Z(Isadie and SouL)P(Fujikura 

tooker   . Mar 27 2014 19:21. Posts 470

Do the people in the cartel sit each other? And when are you gonna start posting hands again?


player999   Brasil. Mar 27 2014 19:32. Posts 7978

They do, not a lot since the group is made of probably the best ppl on the stake

I can post, it's just that after some time hands stop looking interesting, after you herocall 100k times it doesn't feel impressive anymore, I guess I just forget it can still be interesting to others

Browsing through your hand histories makes me wonder that you might not be aware these games are possibly play money. Have you ever tried to cash out? - KapolLast edit: 27/03/2014 19:33

VanDerMeyde   Norway. Mar 27 2014 19:47. Posts 5108

Cartel thing is a very good idea for keeping the games decent

Too bad the same wohnt work at HU cash

:D 

player999   Brasil. Mar 27 2014 20:10. Posts 7978

For sure, it's the reason sngs will live forever and cash HU won't, you can't bumhunt here

Browsing through your hand histories makes me wonder that you might not be aware these games are possibly play money. Have you ever tried to cash out? - KapolLast edit: 27/03/2014 20:10

tooker   . Mar 27 2014 23:24. Posts 470


  On March 27 2014 18:32 player999 wrote:
They do, not a lot since the group is made of probably the best ppl on the stake

I can post, it's just that after some time hands stop looking interesting, after you herocall 100k times it doesn't feel impressive anymore, I guess I just forget it can still be interesting to others



I always liked looking at your hands because it let me remember the good ole days of playing husngs on stars. Recently started playing them on bovada, but it doesn't feel the same .

 Last edit: 27/03/2014 23:26

bigredhoss   Cook Islands. Mar 29 2014 05:51. Posts 8646


  On March 27 2014 19:10 player999 wrote:
For sure, it's the reason sngs will live forever and cash HU won't, you can't bumhunt here



don't you worry about the games getting solved (or "solved" to the point that rake eats up any edge)? it seems like those hypers/turbos would be the first game types to be solved, no?

well, and the cap hu cashgames, but i mean any shorter-stack hunl format.

Truck-Crash LifeLast edit: 29/03/2014 05:54

player999   Brasil. Mar 29 2014 14:06. Posts 7978

not really, it is still way too complex, if there was no rake the best player would still be happy to play the 2nd best player and would have a decent edge

Browsing through your hand histories makes me wonder that you might not be aware these games are possibly play money. Have you ever tried to cash out? - Kapol 

 
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