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mnj   United States. Jun 15 2013 23:42. Posts 3848

Super Splashy table, all because of 1 whale who has been calling 90% of hand regardless of hand. He likes to cold call a lot of preflop bets, and chases flop, turn if given a small bet. Therefore there is some spill over and other ppl are playing pretty call happy too.

Q1
I have been calling with a lot of junk. hands that i normally would rather raise or fold. hands liek Q9o, K5o etc. Is this a good adjustment? considering the fish?it really felt like a race to win his money

I had AKcc earlier and just "temperature guaged" it and made it 20 from utg, and was surprised at 4 cold callers.

Anyway, 100 bb deep
HAND 1
K9hh in the SB with 5 other ppl calling the STRADDLE. About 20 bucks in the pot. Flop is
J93hh.

I thought about leading small for 10 giving myself the right odds as i imagine most ppl will default to call. in the end though, i decide to check because i can either c/r or c/call + see action.

Random guy makes 10 anyway, Whale calls 10. Whale really loves calling preflop and calling 20/20/20 on flop turn and river. He has folded with obvious disgust to flop bets of 30-40. What do you think is the best play? Raising is simple enough, but there are some really big merits to flatting and making the whale make more decisions. a heart, 9, or K could all be potential cards for me to stack. Was just curious as to what is the best play against a whale preflop.

Hand 2

More of a general question really but had 55's in a single raised pot in position heads up. Flop is
QQ2dd

I'm just curious as to how you approach this spot considering how call happy alot of these players are. what you think is a good range In position when they lead into you. I feel as though i would call near 100% of my "hands taht continue to play this spot" range including Qx, PPs, and flush draws. was just wondering if this is the correct approach to this spot. also if there are any deviations from playing pretty call happy regarding any subtle reads.

Hand 3
Lastly, I had TT's in the BB, and someone made it straight 5, and literally the whole table was in the hand. Considering I did a temperature guage of how lose the table plays (made it 20 utg iwth AK with 4-5 callers) I didn't want to make some awkward raise and have to act 2nd into 9 ppl. Also, with all the random short stacks, I could easily see some ridiculous stuff like me making it 20-30, and 3-4 ppl calling, and the SS shoving for 15 (so not a full raise and therefore action is capped). Considering there is at least 45 dollars in the middle, is raising still the best option?

I think TT's are pretty strong on a decent range of flops. Also a few players limp their entire range, and may call or jam JJ+/AJ+ potentially making my life difficult on some flops. My decisions are much easier in a single raised pot, and IMO TT's play really awkward in 3bet pots.

So my question is: do I just make it 20-30 preflop? or simply call?

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 Last edit: 15/06/2013 23:43

gawdawaful   Canada. Jun 16 2013 05:54. Posts 9015

Hard to go wrong in hand 1 so long as you dont fold. I personally prefer to just lead and barrel off, but c/r and bet/commit or jam turn seems like a fine line too.
Dunno what to tell you in hand 2 since you didnt even include if you were pfr but against anyone who isnt completely brain dead but is far from good, raising 100% of your marginal holdings and flatting all your premiums is probably fine
I prob just jam hand 3 if you're playing $200 deep so long as utg & utg2 arent the worlds biggest nits.

Im only good at poker when I run good 

collegesucks   United States. Jun 16 2013 15:58. Posts 5780

hand 2 weird cuz i'd do the exact opposite of ^ and raise all Qx, premium pairs, maybe Axdd and more often than not flat everything else to see what he does on the turn lol. my idea is to get to showdown with lower pps and potentially bluff with other hands if he shows weakness

hand 3 i'd prob make it like 70-80 and jam all flops


casinocasino   Canada. Jun 16 2013 16:42. Posts 3347

def lead a lot with a wide range in the K9s hand...

in regards your adjustments you need dominate the table and make absurd large preflop bets to punish all the loose action.. choose broadway hands and play aggressive.

the whale, punish him with huge bets for value and when you have a good gauge on his folding tendencies you start adding bluffs


YoMeR   United States. Jun 23 2013 19:00. Posts 12438

calling raises with K5o even onthe button vs whales is largely unprofitable. I'd find that first adjustment you're talking about is really bad.Maybe K5s but def not K5o...I'd probably just pick a static range that just destroys this kinda table..like top ~18% or so of hands from EP/MP probably widen it to 25-35% top of hands when in position and just relentlessly iso raising and getting it in on tons of flops since we are only 50-100bb deep i'm assuming and we can just range own them...One thing i really like about your game is you just opened to 20bb w your premium hand...gotta get value from the fishy table. I'd suggest doing the same with all your premium hands.

on hand 1 this is an easy lead for at least 3/4 pot or c/r get it in spot. I dislike check/call i'd like to be very aggressive vs these kinds of opponents.

hand 2 is an easy flat..just raise your better hands in that spot and flat your weaker ones...no need to think too hard about ranges. straight forward exploitative play is best in these kinds of games.

hand 3 i would 100% squeeze this. make it at least a pot sized bet...50 to go and pretty much stack every board if called maybe besides KQx kinda boards where there's 2 over cards. then there's too any random hands that can beat us. but we are still getting it in well over half the time

eZ Life.Last edit: 23/06/2013 19:01

traxamillion   United States. Jun 23 2013 20:40. Posts 10468

hand 3 I am in this spot more often than you think and tbh straight jamming is good unless i think squeeze -> ai flop is better; protect your equity vs that 3rd of shit flops with the overcard and still get straight value from the donk that calls off 66.

playing 100bb and taking down 25bb pre uncontested is better than getting it in with even 60% equity in a 200bb pot.

.6 x 200bb = 120 so 20bb gain 20<25obv


 



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