UEFA Championsleague

FC Bayern vs Barca
BVB vs Real



Some backgrounds on the german teams


current standings in german league


BVB last years
German Bundesliga Champion in 2011 and 2012
runner up in 2013

Bayern last years
Bundesliga runner up 2012 Champion 2013
runner up Championsleague 2012

FC Bayern last results vs German teams

6-1 vs Hanover
6-1 vs Wolfsburg
4-0 vs Nürnberg
1-0 vs Frankfurt
9-2 vs Hamburg

28-4 goals 5 games 5 victories

BVB

2-0 vs Mainz
6-1 vs Fürth
4-2 vs Augsburg
2-1 vs Stuttgart
5-1 vs Freiburg

19-5 goals 5 games 5 victories

I think FC Bayern currently is the strongest team in the world.
In German Bundesliga they play like from another planet and destroy everyone.
Their 2-0 2-0 vs Juventus Turin was no surprise to me.

BVB is also very strong this year.
They didnt dominate Bundesliga like in the 2 previous seasons but for the first time they managed to show their potential in championsleague.
And despite having no chance vs FC Bayern they still managed to score a very easy 2nd place

Opinions ?
Do you think German teams have a chance ?

Of course they have a chance.

Borussia did very well vs real in group stages. Right now real seem to be in a better phase then when they played in group stage though in fact they seem to be at like a peak in their game CR7 is doing very very well.

Barca is definetely not on their best phase with messi coming off a injury and not playing for a while and barcas defense has been a joke this year although as of recent times the goalie has started to play well. Bayern can definitely pull an upset....

That being said if messi and cristiano ronaldo play well no team in the world beats them imo.

another soccer thread?

If you don't like football why even post in a topic =[. You might actually be the worst poster on this site dogmeat. Congrats.

Anyway on topic:

I'm looking very much forward to both matches. I feel if Messi can bring it Barça is still going to be the favourites against Bayern but it's very close. Real Madrid in the knock-out phase should be favourite against Dortmund because of the experience. I think a lot of people underrate Dortmund though based on their performance against Malaga but they underrate Malaga as well. They're a solid team and I still feel that Dortmund outplayed them quite handily. It all depends on if they can close down the counter of Real by playing very compact.

Hoping for a Barcelona-BVB final.

Barca vs BM is a coin flip of who will face Real in the final.

I'm a big fan of german football I kinda feel that the german teams have been pretty unlucky at the final stages in the last years (Bayern got 2nd in the CL 2010 and 2012, German national team got 3rd in Euro 2012, 3rd in WC 2010, 2nd in Euro 2008, 3rd in WC 2006, 2nd in WC 2002 etc.). Both Bayern and Borussia are sick good, so I'm hoping for a german final, it's long due for them to win something.

real pretty solid favourites vs dortmund. (by which I mean like 70-30) dortmund is great, but I feel they're slightly worse than during group stage, and real is significantly better.

barca vs bayern is super close. bayern has seemed stronger so far this season but they haven't actually played any games vs any team at barcelona's level. (of which there are only 3.)

I don't even know what I'm hoping for really. well, definitely hoping for bayern, and I think dortmund is a much "cooler" team than real madrid. but I also think real madrid - bayern is the most deserving final pairing in terms of trophys won in relation to skill over the past 3-4 years.

Mascherano, Puyol, Adriano....are all out

they def have a chance, bayern came 2nd in CL last year after biggest nitboxklonk of chelsea ever and dortmund are fkin young beasts too

i want a bvb vs bayern derby finals or atleast 1 german team winning the whole thing, cant take another barca win zzz and i dont want elclassico, have seen that shit 6 billion times already

a serious prediction tho is bayern vs real in the finals, bayern winning the whole thing, they deserve it after last year

go bvb tho


also lol @ dogmeats gorilla gif, that one was awesome.

traitor european that prefers handegg over football

Marcelo isnt playing vs Borussia so its an easy german win there. Think Bayern ll beat Barca althought im a barca fan. Barca just lacks the defense. Puyol will play btw

Too bad the referees will give the title to RM

On April 22 2013 06:05 dogmeat wrote: another soccer thread?

another soccer thread? this is probably the only one

how about the 300th mma thread

btw real madrid gonna win this shit

dortmund beat Madrid at home in the group stages and draw in Madrid.. I hope they can do it again!

Bayern vs Barca tomorrow will be sickkkkk

People saying Dortmund has good chances are delusional. They struggled and luckboxed to beat Malaga (fuck them anyway), and RM is way stronger team. Plus smaller teams are always weared down at the end of seasons cause they have no subs (that's why the always lose on semi finals)

Bayern has the edge, but barza is barza and their style seems to be the best counter to Bayern's style. I'd pick a bet depending on odds.

Bayern vs Barca is a game where my two favourite teams go head to head, so whoever wins im happy.
Bayern is in monster mode right now, Barca has been showing some weakness at times lately. I think its a coinflip QQ(Bayern) vs AKs(Barca). So just the slightest edge to Bayern.

BVB vs RM, i hope Dortmund gets through, even though they are like 30% atm.

Bayern vs Real, or Barca vs Real would be an epic final.

If any of you guys are knowledgeable about soccer and bet on the games, I'll trade you soccer picks for MMA picks.

Edit: Send me a PM if you're interested, as I'll probably forget to check this thread.

No one will beat real madrid, they are very strong right now, take the +200 odds ( real to win it all). Actually the order is this ( barca +190), real madrid (+200), bayern ( +275) and dortmund + 600. So if u were to bet on someone take bayern and madrid imo.

What i did is this.. I put 400 usd on real madrid( +200) and 400 on bayern( +275). If madrid wins, i get 1200 in total 400 profit), if bayern wins i get 1500 in total ( 700 in profit)

spitifree- i just read puyol & mascherano are not playing and adriano is suspended so its gonna be this marc bartra apparently along with pique

oddsmaker at pinny have barca as small favorite (1.8) to pass and real as big favorite (~1.5)

spanish teams are OP but with barca so injury infested it should be super tough game for them

madrid should be clear favourites for the championship. not because they're better than barcelona or bayern (been better h2h vs barcelona over the last two seasons though), but because they're much more likely to even reach the finals.

if the lines put bayern barcelona and real madrid as equal title contenders then real madrid is the by far best choice.

i think its a clear mistake to still underestimate Dortmund that much.
Thats what Bayern did in the last 2 Seasons...and they lost 5 consecutive matches vs Dortmund because of this.
They lost both games vs Dortmund last year...and made it to the Champions league final.
Real is only a slight favorite imo and this only because they run hot atm and CR is in great shape..

I think Bayern vs barca is extremely even in theory,but with Bayern having a real sick run right now ,destroying everyone ,they should have an edge vs Barca handicapped due to injuries;messi not playing at its best.
The only thing I worry about ,is that Barca style indeed is great vs Bayern.Bayern just never played good vs Barca in the past.
I think Bayern would crush Real or Dortmund but will have a very tough time vs Barca.

Looking forward to both games .Should be great entertainment.