NewbSaibot   United States. Apr 26 2013 10:55. Posts 4952
What are you going on about Gnarly? Who gives a shit whether he was shot in the neck or not, or whether it was self-inflicted. You're acting like this trivial piece of information is leading to some grand scheme. Do you think he's innocent or something? Do you think the bombs placed were an inside job? I mean, whats your point?
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Gnarly   United States. Apr 26 2013 15:29. Posts 1723
On April 26 2013 09:55 NewbSaibot wrote:
What are you going on about Gnarly? Who gives a shit whether he was shot in the neck or not, or whether it was self-inflicted. You're acting like this trivial piece of information is leading to some grand scheme. Do you think he's innocent or something? Do you think the bombs placed were an inside job? I mean, whats your point?
Who gives a shit that hundreds of homes were searched without a warrant, amiright? Sure, one cop may have brought two gallons of milk to a house, but still warrentless searches are against the constitution.
If he was shot through the neck, while unarmed, that means the police fucked up and they need to face the consequences, otherwise, they'll just keep doing shit like that. "Oh, you're surrendering? GET SHOT MOTHER FUCKER!" That's not trivial, because that's ILLEGAL. Unless you think the police department is above the law, but it's still ILLEGAL. It doesn't matter if he's guilty or innocent, you read the fucking miranda rights and you don't shoot up the person especially when they have surrendered. He was eventually read his miranda rights, but days after the fact.
On April 26 2013 09:55 NewbSaibot wrote:
What are you going on about Gnarly? Who gives a shit whether he was shot in the neck or not, or whether it was self-inflicted. You're acting like this trivial piece of information is leading to some grand scheme. Do you think he's innocent or something? Do you think the bombs placed were an inside job? I mean, whats your point?
Who gives a shit that hundreds of homes were searched without a warrant, amiright? Sure, one cop may have brought two gallons of milk to a house, but still warrentless searches are against the constitution.
>Implying anyone should give a fuck
>Implying that it wouldn't be a problem with the constitution, not with the action itself, if police couldn't search homes in this case
>Implying it shouldn't just be fruit of the poisonous tree if the police found something and everyone would be fine and not blown up by bombs
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Gnarly   United States. Apr 26 2013 18:00. Posts 1723
You do realize that the meme arrow is an implication, right?
>sitting at home
>enjoying muh tv and breakfast
>BANG BANG BANG on the door
>POLICE OPEN UP NOW
>shit my pants
>spill my cereal all over the place
>hesitantly open up door
>AR-15 pointed at my face
>WE NEED TO SEARCH THE PREMISES RIGHT NOW
>b-but you don't ha-
>get grabbed by officer and thrown onto my porch
>a line of officers rush into my home
Did you see some of the videos of the searches? Do you really feel comfortable with a rifle being trained on you? Who knows if you move too fast that you won't get shot... Scare an officer and you might get shot. Look at an officer wrong and you might get shot. Enemy combatant status, do you know what the means?
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NewbSaibot   United States. Apr 26 2013 19:01. Posts 4952
You dont think the police were justified in their actions given the circumstances?
If what you're describing is true (it's probably not because nothing that you say is true) then that is bullshit. I would be happy to comply with the police in that situation but they don't have the right to force their way in to a home without a warrant or probable cause or whatever.
Dude you some social darwinist ideas that they are giving hitlers ghost a boner - Baal
is that an explosion at 1:44? or did they shoot something at the boat?
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NewbSaibot   United States. Apr 26 2013 21:52. Posts 4952
Those are flash bangs
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Gnarly   United States. Apr 26 2013 22:32. Posts 1723
>BANG BANG BANG
>GET YOUR HANDS IN THE AIR!!
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NewbSaibot   United States. Apr 26 2013 22:41. Posts 4952
On April 26 2013 21:32 Gnarly wrote:
>BANG BANG BANG
>GET YOUR HANDS IN THE AIR!!
You're a fucking faggot dude. Wtf do you expect them to do, do you realize wtf just happened? I think apprehending the terrorists was everyone's priority. I would welcome a swat raid into my home in the moments after this horrendous event to help aid law enforcement in his capture. They clearly had the right strategy since the guy was hiding in someones boat on their personal property. They did an excellent job, found him in record time, and did exactly what they were supposed to do, which is make sure these little cockbags dont get to do it again.
I also love how you try to sensationalize what happened with your "BANG BANG BANG" crap. They gently knocked on a flimsy ass glass door which they could have easily broken, waited for someone to answer, and of course are going to tell him to get his fucking hands in the air. If they were walking around using a battering ram busting down doors and tackling people then I'd have a problem. If they were raiding peoples homes a month from now then I'd have a problem. If they were tazing residents the moment they open their doors then I'd have a problem. But they conducted themselves very well especially considering the severity of the issue.
You act like they were after some highschoolers weed money abusing their authority. They were on the hunt for a couple of maniac jihadi terrorists. This was as important as the hunt of Osama all over again.
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Gnarly   United States. Apr 27 2013 00:02. Posts 1723
>I'm a faggot for wanting a warrant and constitutional rights
>I would need the help of the SWAT team to get rid of a terrorist in my home
>I would be able to answer the door if there was a terrorist in my home
25k fucking thousands units dude, 25000! For one guy! Do you know who's going to pick up THAT tab? The taxpayers. Seems like they did a really good fucking job needing the hordes of men just to find someone who was actually found by a resident only when they let the residents leave their homes on their own terms. This whole incident just showed how much of a fucking joke the police, swat, FBI, and national guard is.
>gently knock
Sensationalizing much, no? Did you happen to see the wood on that door?
Did they have a warrant for this search? No, they didn't, and do you know what means? It was an unconstitutional search.
NewbSaibot   United States. Apr 27 2013 00:49. Posts 4952
You're an idiot. The severity of this situation called for warrantless searches. There might as well have been anthrax floating in the air. I suppose you would have preferred the police left post it notes on everyones door to hold their breath. I love how you feel you're fuckin GI Joe and dont need anybody's help to get rid of a terrorist in your home. I can clearly see how you have considered all the angles in which a circumstance like this might unfold, such as he has a fucking gun, or a bomb, or both. Let me guess, you would have totally kicked all of Al Qaeda's ass during 9/11 if you were on that plane, aint nobody gonna punk you right son? Shiiieeeettt, motha fuckas dont know how they fuckin wit. As for answering the door, assuming our terrorist friend has seen at least one good action movie, what the fuck happens when you *dont* answer the door. The cops get highly suspicious right? It doesnt exactly serve a suicide bomber well to have to detonate early without knowing that this is a raid vs your standard questionnaire. As for "seeing the wood on the door"; the fuck you talking about? That was a glass fucking door, or a door with a very large section of glass built into it. Do you not see the shimmering reflection on it? The cops could have easily broken it, but they didnt.
Anyway I can clearly see youre kinda fuckin retarded and going to be another typical tinfoil hat retard who probably thinks 9/11 was an inside job and somehow Sandy Hook is related to the boston massacre. God I wish there was a way I could just block all your posts so that you dont troll bait me into arguing with you. But I'm gonna try to be strong here. No more tears.... shhhh, only dreams now...
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Gnarly   United States. Apr 27 2013 01:07. Posts 1723
There might as well have been anthrax floating in the air.
Stopped reading right there.
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blackjacki2   United States. Apr 27 2013 03:48. Posts 2582
fyi warrantless searches are not automatically against the constitution. There are many circumstances that police can search a home without a warrant and it wouldn't be unconstitutional. For example if they think a suspect ran into a home they are allowed to go into the home to look for him, they don't have to sit outside with their thumbs up their asses while they get a warrant.
The 4th amendment protects us from "unreasonable searches." Good luck finding a judge that thinks it would be unreasonable to search a few homes that a terrorist might be hiding in.
They really released 25k units for the hunt ? :D wow
And yeah under "terrorism" pretext they can go in w/o warrant which is ridiculous and easily abusive
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NewbSaibot   United States. Apr 27 2013 13:02. Posts 4952
On April 27 2013 07:23 Spitfiree wrote:
They really released 25k units for the hunt ? :D wow
And yeah under "terrorism" pretext they can go in w/o warrant which is ridiculous and easily abusive