TUF 17 Finale: Team Jones vs. Team Sonnen

Date: Saturday, April 13th
Preliminary Card (Facebook): 16:30 LP.net / 2:30pm PST / 5:30pm EST Facebook stream
Preliminary Card (Fuel TV): 18:00 LP.net / 4pm PST / 7pm EST
Main Card (FX): 20:00 LP.net / 6pm PST / 9pm EST
Live Streams: Prelims are Live on Facebook/YouTube and Fuel TV - http://www.vipbox.tv (All MMA events are listed under the UFC button. Press the UFC button and you'll see the event in the list.)





Main Card (FX)

Urijah Faber (27-6) vs. Scott Jorgensen (14-6) (Bantamweight)
Kelvin Gastelum (5-0) vs. Uriah Hall (7-2) (Middleweight)
Miesha Tate (13-3) vs. Cat Zingano (7-0) (Women's Bantamweight)
Travis Browne (13-1-1) vs. Gabriel Gonzaga (14-6) (Heavyweight)
Robert McDaniel (20-6) vs. Gilbert Smith (5-1) (Middleweight)

Preliminary Card (Fuel TV)

Josh Samman (9-2) vs. Kevin Casey (5-2) (Middleweight)
Luke Barnatt (5-0) vs. Collin Hart (4-1-1) (Middleweight)
Dylan Andrews (15-4) vs. Jimmy Quinlan (3-0) (Middleweight)
Clint Hester (7-3) vs. Bristol Marunde (12-7) (Middleweight)

Preliminary Card (Facebook)

Cole Miller (18-7) vs. Bart Palaszewski (36-16) (Featherweight)
Justin Lawrence (4-1) vs. Daniel Pineda (17-9) (Featherweight)
Sam Sicilia (11-2) vs. Maximo Blanco (8-4-1) (Featherweight)

Other

- The event was expected to feature a Flyweight Championship bout between the current champion Demetrious Johnson, and challenger John Moraga, as well as the middleweight tournament finals. However, Johnson was forced out of the bout with an injury and Moraga was removed from the event as well. The main event will now feature a bout between the former WEC Featherweight Champion Urijah Faber and long time bantamweight contender Scott Jorgensen.
- The winner of Miesha Tate vs Cat Zingano will coach against Ronda Rousey for the next season of The Ultimate Fighter.

^ Just in case anybody forgot about it.

Also,

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they put Bubba vs Smith in the main card... really? Samman vs Casey would be 5x better fight as long as Casey actually can sustain the cardio this time...

^ Other people have said Samman has good cardio, and that Casey has kidney problems and gases cuz of it.

If its the kidney failure problem he had in TUF that is not as serious as it looks and it does not reflect on your cardio by that much as long as you are really training. I've already had a few of those cases and if its gone to a such serious level that he cant go through 3 rounds even after actually training like a professional then his health risks are way too high to be even fighting

I was also hoping to see Sonnen vs Jones (althought jones will probably beat the shit out of him ) but meh they put it @ 27th so TUF fans like me that dont follow the UFC that much would have to watch that event as well and hopefully get hooked on it. Well played marketing

I'm really going for Gilbert.

i was wondering which fighter didnt get a fight. What happened to Zak Cummings?

Zak Cummings ‏@ZakCummings

To clear things up. I was set to fight @clinthester on the #TUF Finale & due to an accidental incident I tore my hamstring and cannot fight.

Faber should beat Jorgensen.

I think Kevin will put up more of a fight vs Hall then most ppl expect. A "in you face" wrestler with decent grappling who tends to wing punches and put his head down to get the take down seems like a fairly good blueprint to beat Hall. Hall should be the favourite though.

Zingano is very good but I think Tate will beat her. Tate seems like the Faber of WMMA. Loses to champions, wins against anything else.

Brown should knock Gonzaga out but both are hit or miss so hard to predict.

I really hope Smith beats Bubbas ass but that seems like it's set up to give Bubba more fights. No idea why, guy is boring as hell and not even close to UFC level considering his age and general lack of mental strength.

On the preliminary card I think Samman beats Casy easy, other then that I'll just enjoy the fights. Hester is getting screwed over, first he did not get the wildcard and now he has to fight a boring as wrestler who tends to spoil parties. I don't give much of a crap about the other fights, even though I like Miller.

Yeah so confused as to why everyone tried to hard to hype Bubba

i think the same as dusty, or i think he thinks good so i think i should think like him

wat

you agree

I'm not in the Uriah Hall bandwagon
I think he is cool and I like to watch him fight, and it's pretty nice when a guy who can throw spinning shit and KO people with it, win fights

but honestly I'm not amused with him, he wasn't having an easy fight vs Adam Cella until he got the KO
Bubba lost the fight before the fight, and Andrews went to the fight in fucking turtle mode, he tried to punch Uriah like 6 times the whole fight wtf ?

his ground game seems to be amateur level, and his TDD is not good, he was taken down in almost every fight in TUF

I really like his spirit, personality and obv his style to fight, so I'm cheering for him to win and work his game up

betting wise, I was hoping for better odds to bet in Gastelum because of the Uriah's hype, but I'm still putting money in Kelvin @ +325

From what happened in TUF Kelvin is nowhere near close to beating Uriah. Even if he gets him to the ground and keeps him there which i very much doubt, it will be extremely hard to control him. Look at how dylan gave him an opening for a split second and Uriah just destroyed him from the bottom. Besides Kelvin rarely lands hard hits even when he controls his opponent on the ground. Im guessing best case scenario he s winning one round. Only way he can win this is by some kind of a sucker punch or something, but im guessing Uriah will catch him with a flying knee or smtng like that while Kelvin tries to KD him.
Plus wrestling is fucking boring - no wonder they threw it out of the next olympics so I d hate to see another wrestler with a long contract no matter how good he is
Uriah totally looks like the black Ken or Ryu from Street Fighter

Hall looks amazing when doing switch kicks, 360s and shit but middleweight ufc is very tough having experience with Silva that he will get beaten easily by any top 5 guys - he's also too flatfooted and reckless no wonder Weidman ktfo'ed him

What do you guys think of this bets:

Urijah Faber in a parlay (-476)
Gastelum (+255)
Miesha Tate +102 (maybe parlay with faber)
Daniel Pineda at -111 (I think he is way better than Lawrence but I am not that sure)
Gabriel Gonzaga (+220)

Urijah Faber
Uriah Hall
Travis Browne
Cat Zingano
Josh Samman
Jimmy Quinlan
Colin Hart
Clint Hester

Main Parlay:
Faber, Hall, Browne, Samman gets you 1.5 to 1. I just don't see any of these 4 losing.

On April 12 2013 11:11 alejandicto wrote: What do you guys think of this bets: Urijah Faber in a parlay (-476) Gastelum (+255) Miesha Tate +102 (maybe parlay with faber) Daniel Pineda at -111 (I think he is way better than Lawrence but I am not that sure) Gabriel Gonzaga (+220)

I don't like it. Too many close fights in it.

Hall is supposed to win.
Tate's fight will be close, and I'm picking Zingano to win.
I'm picking Pineda to win, but his opponent has better technical striking, while Pineda has decent hands and better subs.
Gonzaga is expected to lose, and he has terrible cardio these days.

I think there might be some value in Casey at (+400). I think he has something to prove losing 2 fights in TUF. Also, Samman's ground game does not look good and Casey is a good grappler. If he can get Josh to the ground he can take the fight. Casey at (+300 - 330) would have been where I put him.

Samman's ground game looks perfect comapred to Casey's capabilties