North Korea Has Gone Completely Insane

If no one expected China to back up NK, then why is there such a delicate situation? If it was just NK by itself, we would've destroyed them by now. But alas! They are a buffer for China, and are protected by China! Then again, NK is also a trading partner of Russia, so we'd have to deal with that backlash in such a scenario. NK is also thought to have around 6 trillion dollars worth of raw materials. Certainly enough for it to be of significance for the country.

America and Zimbabwe don't have any treaties by themselves, but America has one with a group of African countries that does include Zimbabwe. If America says, "Fuck you, Z," then the other countries in the treaty would need to evaluate that situation.

Burundi Comoros Congo Dem Rep. Djibouti Egypt Eritrea Ethiopia Kenya Libya Madagascar Malawi Mauritius Rwanda Seychelles Sudan Swaziland Uganda Zambia Zimbabwe

All of these countries are under America's influence to prevent other major powers like Russia or China from getting to them. And that's not the only TIFA that America is involved with, as they are involved world wide. So, if America stopped part of it's bargain just for one part of a group, it would send a message to all other TIFA participants. If you don't think so, you really need a dose of reality.

I think NewbSaibot hit the nail on the head

On April 02 2013 08:01 NewbSaibot wrote: NK is an exception to the rule. Nobody would give a rat fuck if China dropped them in a hot minute, and in fact it would probably be expected. China's relationship with NK is nothing like their relationship with other nations. China only backs NK as part of some historical communist drama before China became the industry it is today. China benefits absolutely nothing from NK and their financial support of them practically amounts to a rounding error on the yearly budget sheets. "Oh NK? Shit we're still sending them goods? Well, whatever. It's more hassle to stop than it is to just continue, fuck it". But if NK loses their shit and some retarded commander orders a missile launch while a B-2 is flying by? Yeah shit is on now and no way China risks their economy to "uphold their word" to a nation nobody expects them to give a fuck about. It'd be like if the USA stopped sending aid to fuckin, zimbabwe or some dumb shit. You think anybody would give a fuck about a broken treaty like that?

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On April 02 2013 00:09 Gnarly wrote: Show nested quote + On April 01 2013 23:42 Baalim wrote:   On April 01 2013 21:53 Gnarly wrote:   On April 01 2013 21:27 NewbSaibot wrote: Oh of course we will attack, but China will not intervene because they cant afford to have us just say "lol fuck you" and stop paying. We've already been to war with NK once, and it did not end up being a war with China despite China's assistance. Do you not understand how treaties work? If we attack NK, if they attacked first or not, China MUST respond. If they don't, then every other treaty they currently have will be worthless, and they won't be able to get into any new treaties because they will have shown the entire world that their word is worthless. Whenever the first Korean war happened, they were not in a treaty. They only entered AFTER we left, and quite a few years after. They are CURRENTLY in a treaty with NK. In 2021, they either renew or they don't. Maybe things can be held off until then, but until then, China must honor it's word. Do you seriously think China will start an apocalyptic nuclear 3rd world war to "honor their word"?. China has grown apart lately from NorthKorean ideologies and its drifting towards modernity, NK is nothing but their old rabid dog that was useful in the past, but now that its their time to climb to the top of the world they wont hesitate in putting it down if it comes to it. If China dishonors one treaty, would they dishonor any of it's other treaties? Do you think Russia, Taiwan, Australia, and other countries would not care at all? They would shit fucking bricks. Do you know about BRICS? Do you think Brazil, India, Russia and South Africa would keep doing business with China? I'm not saying China will immediately start nuking everyone. I'm saying that China will engage in military combat if NK is attacked. It's like playing poker with some people, and one of the people goes all-in, loses, and refuses to actually pay up. Would you ever play with that person ever again? Word would spread and other people would avoid that player. Do you think China would willingly lose it's trading partners?

Chinas trading partners dont give a flying fuck about north korea, probably as the rest of the world they secretly hope it finally turns into a smoldering crater, China wouldnt look sleazy or weak to the rest of the world if they abandon NorthKorea, it would look like a sensible country for the first time.

On April 02 2013 08:01 NewbSaibot wrote: NK is an exception to the rule. Nobody would give a rat fuck if China dropped them in a hot minute, and in fact it would probably be expected. China's relationship with NK is nothing like their relationship with other nations. China only backs NK as part of some historical communist drama before China became the industry it is today. China benefits absolutely nothing from NK and their financial support of them practically amounts to a rounding error on the yearly budget sheets. "Oh NK? Shit we're still sending them goods? Well, whatever. It's more hassle to stop than it is to just continue, fuck it". But if NK loses their shit and some retarded commander orders a missile launch while a B-2 is flying by? Yeah shit is on now and no way China risks their economy to "uphold their word" to a nation nobody expects them to give a fuck about. It'd be like if the USA stopped sending aid to fuckin, zimbabwe or some dumb shit. You think anybody would give a fuck about a broken treaty like that?

First time i agree with NewbSaibot ever

China would use that treaty as toilet paper if it would mean they lose their trillions of dollars in collectibles from the rest of the world

Think of having a really prosperous business and your asshole of a cousin is bugging all your customers and threatening them all the time lol

I think what's happening is this: Kim Jong Un is new, and is just trying to basically do the same his father did to make sure he doesn't loose the control of his country. He's trying to prove himself to his people. But its not working, USA is ignoring them. So he has to QQ harder and harder and harder until he gets his toy. China can tell him to calm down all it wants, it doesn't matter.

But this Kim guy doesn't look very stable, so its hard to predict what he will do once he realize all this QQing won't do anything.

China probably just wants all of this to end, but also surely doesn't want NK to disapear. If NK attacked SK and Allies attacked NK, i don't know what China would do. My guess would be is they will help out NK but not start WW3 or something.

I'm wonder for those who are that no one cares about NK, do you actually work for the government, or is that just your opinion?

http://english.yonhapnews.co.kr/north.../0401000000AEN20130403001900315F.HTML

NK holds up S. Korean workers' departure to Kaesong industrial complex

I've read all of your posts (Floofy) in this thread, and as someone who actually keeps in tune with Canadian politics and geo-political stances... also combined with some of your other ideas - I can very confidently say you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

On April 03 2013 00:12 devon06atX wrote: I've read all of your posts (Floofy) in this thread, and as someone who actually keeps in tune with Canadian politics and geo-political stances... also combined with some of your other ideas - I can very confidently say you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

Why don't you point out where i am wrong? Because if you say everything i said is wrong, then you are the one who has no clue. But its def possible some of my points are wrong especially when i mention i am just doing guesses.

NK has the go-ahead to use nukes. Rumors of two submarines missing. Chinese tanks on the Korean border. THAAD? missile defense warships mobilized. Rumors of Fort Knox on lockdown. Rumors of Defcon 3.

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http://112.170.78.145:50000/chosun

North korean tv live stream, need vlc addon to your browser. im using firefox, works flawless. odd shit, wish i could understand what they say. Live now, some Korean opera on tv.

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^you can just add the link to VLC directly

nvm, it was already posted in rofl thread

On April 07 2013 01:55 uiCk wrote: http://112.170.78.145:50000/chosun North korean tv live stream, need vlc addon to your browser. im using firefox, works flawless. odd shit, wish i could understand what they say. Live now, some Korean opera on tv. From TL: + Show Spoiler + Show nested quote + On April 02 2013 05:44 s3rp wrote: 16:30-17:00 Test Pattern with digital clock (Music and clock ident with bell, Russian orthodox, Roman Catholic cathedral & clock) 30-minutes 17:00-17:10 National Anthem, Introduction Announcement, Kim Il-sung (instrumental and minus one anthem) & Kim Jong-il (instrumental version), Television Listings 10-minutes 17:10-17:20 News (Metropolitan Edition) 10-minutes 17:20-17:25 Weather Forecast (Metropolitan Edition) 5-minutes 17:25-17:30 Newspaper Review 5-minutes 17:30-18:00 Situation Comedy 30-minutes 18:00-18:20 Sports 20-minutes 18:20-18:40 Military 20-minutes 18:40-19:00 Law Enforcement 20-minutes 19:00-19:25 News (Local Edition) 25-minutes 19:25-19:30 Weather Forecast (Local Edition) 5-minutes 19:30-20:00 Music Video 30-minutes 20:00-21:00 Drama 1-hours 21:00-22:30 Movie Theater 90-minutes 22:30-22:45 Late News (Metropolitan & Local Edition) 15-minutes 22:40-22:45 Weather Forecast (Metropolitan & Local Edition) 5-minutes 22:45-23:00 Music Videos 15-minutes 23:00-23:10 TV Listings for Tomorrow, Farewell announcenent, National Flag 10-minutes 23:10-17:00 Fade Out Black, Test Pattern 18-hours and 10 minutes There you go . You just have to adjust your time and korean local and you can allways follow the program. Pretty strange they only broadcast from 5 PM on out and also only for 6 hours . Edit: just read on weekends and holidays they broadcast 15 hours ! I am really curious what situation comedy is. That and what kind of music videos they show.

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This makes me even more wanna go to war against North Korea.

Black Hawk down near the North border. No details as of yet, but this comes after a fresh threat that the North will launch a blitzkrieg on the South unless they stop preparing for a possible attack. (ultimatum)

Don't prepare for an attack, or we'll attack you!

On April 16 2013 00:53 whamm! wrote: Don't prepare for an attack, or we'll attack you!

Lower your defenses and we won't attack you!

On April 16 2013 00:53 whamm! wrote: Don't prepare for an attack, or we'll attack you!

haha yeah, my thoughts exactly