Party Poker Lobby Riggedness

sites love break even regs, they just dont like people who cash out alot of money so they try to force everyone playing ev0 game, that move by pp was scummy as fuck have no idea how some of you think its a good thing LOL

On March 03 2013 04:48 VanDerMeyde wrote: My impression is that the sites love 12-24 tabling regs that chase rakeback/bonuses/rakeraces and will do anything to attract these guys to their site

Your impression is neither right or wrong, I think. It depends. As long as room is able to supply a lot of casuals it's all great. But when casuals runs out then problem begins. Casuals are "eaten" very fast, regs don't play with each other therefore games aren't running very often and not enough rake is made.

Stars is basically only site that doesn't have to make that big changes in favor of casuals and themselves, yet. For now they've changed only method of calculating rake, I believe. But I'm positive they will. It's just a matter of time: more markets closing, more licensees costs, even shittier economy and so on. I bet Stars changes their VIP in benefit of casuals and themselves in 3-4 years tops. Maybe for something similar to FTP so everyone gets 20-25% rakeback (and more in casual-happy promotions) instead of 5-10% for casuals and 50-75% or so for regs.

On March 01 2013 14:44 Daut wrote: Great idea party! Let's encourage regs to multiaccount to keep having new names that can play on fish tables.

Didn't read whole thread, but this was my first thought.

All this is going to do is cause a multi accounting explosion, which is terrible for everyone.

completely OT: all hail stars for sure, but
don't forget 888 is also doing a lot better recently by having genuine good management; they're not stars, but a lot of the stuff they are doing makes a ton of sense. 888 also improved their catering to fish by improving the fisheg ratio on the tables by not allowing regs to masstable.
Seeing as how 888 is not a major site, this makes perfect sense as most regs probably play multiple sites if they care enough, while fish enjoy not waiting forever for a reg to act.

On March 03 2013 15:57 nolan wrote: Show nested quote + On March 01 2013 14:44 Daut wrote: Great idea party! Let's encourage regs to multiaccount to keep having new names that can play on fish tables. Didn't read whole thread, but this was my first thought. All this is going to do is cause a multi accounting explosion, which is terrible for everyone.

Not gonna happen. Reevaluation and assigning to a higher pool if you're winning takes place very quickly. 10k hands max.

On March 03 2013 15:57 nolan wrote: Show nested quote + On March 01 2013 14:44 Daut wrote: Great idea party! Let's encourage regs to multiaccount to keep having new names that can play on fish tables. Didn't read whole thread, but this was my first thought. All this is going to do is cause a multi accounting explosion, which is terrible for everyone.

i do not know how can people in the first place multi account, that is risking quite a lot of money unless they use their family to make accounts

On March 02 2013 19:39 Ket wrote: like I say in threads about too much rake, party are a business and the goal of a business is maximize profit. there's no obligation to let pros be able to make money. if its not in your interest as a customer simply stop playing there. let the free market decide whether their business model works. you wouldn't go to an online blackjack site and express outrage that their games aren't set up in a way that lets you win in the long run. The main shady thing tho which I think it's legit to be angry about is how party are keeping this quiet and hoping people wouldn't notice. but if you've been around online poker for any length of time you'd already know party aren't exactly famed for how they treat their players. Now here's another side of the coin you should appreciate: what would you think about this feature as a recreational player? I'd be loving it, it would be a much more enjoyable experience than the shark infested waters at pokerstars. this kind of thing could hit your bottom line indirectly if you don't even play on party if recs on other sites hear about this change and switch to party. for this reason you should be happy party aren't exactly advertising this 'feature' in big bright letters, but that you know about it. see you soon on stars, ex-pp regs!

Except that this can be easily circunvented with multi-accounting which ruins the game, but ultimately as you said the market will decide if this is a good idea, but also public opinion and bitching is part of that so bitch away so this ridiculous crap ends.

revolution network will follow party

"Fair play Technology" LOL

lol this is def bullshit. I'd play at tables full of regs if there were no better tables...but at least give me the chance to play with fish what the fuck. that kills the bottomline longterm no matter the skill level.

and +1 what talented tom said...i recently got booted from an ipoker skin simply due to a "managerial decision" which was utter bullshit. they snap refunded my account balance and closed my account O_O

imagine that shit happening at a casino...."sorry because you're winning too much we can't let u play here anymore. You are now banned from this casino forever LOL"

scumbags gonna scum

On March 06 2013 15:43 YoMeR wrote: and +1 what talented tom said...i recently got booted from an ipoker skin simply due to a "managerial decision" which was utter bullshit. they snap refunded my account balance and closed my account O_O imagine that shit happening at a casino...."sorry because you're winning too much we can't let u play here anymore. You are now banned from this casino forever LOL" scumbags gonna scum

This actually happened to an Aussie billionaire back in the day. He was running hot in a London casino playing blackjack and they cut him off.

On another occasion, he was barred from the London casino Crockfords for winning too much. According to his right-hand man and partner in fun, Trevor Kennedy, he had won "about 10 million quid" in the previous few weeks and the casino had tired of it. The manager took Packer aside, offered him a free dinner, and then politely requested he gamble elsewhere. According to Kennedy, Packer came back "with a big grin from ear to ear", saying it was the thing he had always wanted: to be banned from a casino for winning too much. Read more: http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/...-e6frfkp9-1111114058559#ixzz2MoFwJPIb

judging from 2p2 'official pp thread' there are still some ppl playing O___o

Will fish start up their own tables ? I always had the impression fish would just join whatever is out there

At least regs are good for getting games started...

One change that would be really hillarious and good for poker long therm... what if they made it so fish could not see HU tables...

Wonder how many years until the HU bumhunters would figure it out

games still seems just as busy as ever

On March 12 2013 13:08 Highcard wrote: games still seems just as busy as ever

and you know what that means

On March 12 2013 13:56 dogmeat wrote: Show nested quote + On March 12 2013 13:08 Highcard wrote: games still seems just as busy as ever and you know what that means

lolololol

my old account is now considered a fish account?

sweet deal

On March 12 2013 17:38 Highcard wrote: my old account is now considered a fish account? sweet deal

only for ~1 day of play