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aernout   Netherlands. Jan 17 2013 15:49. Posts 161

nah, 53nl doesn't exist but gotta stay creative on the titles



hand 1

villain is a fish, plays 46/8 over 654 hands. when he donks ott, I think it could be anything from turned trips to just a flush draw. it doesn't look that strong. I think the best is to raise here to 12$ and get it in if he shoves.

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hand 2

villain plays 12/11 over 44k hands. has a 11% PFR from MP, cbets 66% otf and follows through on the turn with a barrel also 66% of the time. has a 5.4 AFR otf, 3.1 ott, 2.1 otr. I think the best here is to just call otf and ott and fold to a river bet

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hand 3

villain plays 16/14 over 65k hands, he has a 49% fold to cbet, my plan was to x/c once otf and x/f unimproved and x/r ott if a 3rd diamond hits. otr I think he can raise worse (I guess?) idk it looks really weird.

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hand 4

only got 17 hands on villain from just that session, otr all the draws hit and I think a fold is the best. also any tips on my passive play OOP here with a pretty strong hand?

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thanks in advance LPers

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Oly   United Kingdom. Jan 17 2013 16:24. Posts 3585

1: Call

2: Shove

3: Fold. Cbet.

4: Call. Raise flop.

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Oly   United Kingdom. Jan 17 2013 16:25. Posts 3585

Sorry, in a hurry. Yes, 2 is a bluff. Edit didn't see stacks for 2 just fold; but its a great raising spot deeper.

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aernout   Netherlands. Jan 17 2013 16:43. Posts 161

1. you realise that if we call here we give him awesome outs on all his draws and the flop is quite drawy
4. by x/ring otf I dont think we get action by that much worse


mnj   United States. Jan 17 2013 17:11. Posts 3848

i raise/fold hand 1, i never think he will lead/raise turn with anything worse, but think there are times where u get tons of value from shit like 2nd pair, 88, 99, Tx, draws etc.

hand 2, i think i would fold to turn barrel since his MP opening percent is 11%. His range is too tight, and this is sort of read dependent. BUt I imagine ppl who play this tight play fairly honest on the turn. I don't think this is the type of guy to double barrel AK, with the hopes that you fold a pp (as you didn't fold).

pretty read dependent. also ppl who open taht tight usually are scared of money, so i dont HATE a turn raise, but this is pretty read dependent.

hand 3, pretty e.z fold on river although i don't like the way you got there. considering blind vs blind, i prefer betting flop for value, potentially barreling a diamond turn against such a passive player.

hand 4, seems like a good place to call river. wp.


LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Jan 17 2013 19:45. Posts 15163

1 is a raise pretty sure
2 i muck turn
3 cbet its not bvb ur range isnt that wide you can barrel shitloads of turns
4 i call

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Tensai176   Canada. Jan 17 2013 23:01. Posts 1018

Call all four imo


locoo   Peru. Jan 18 2013 12:49. Posts 4566

1. Because he is such a passive whale I wouldn't rule out any 6x and even QQ+ from his range. Also any random crap like xxhh, Ax, Kx, gutshots you name it. That said I don't think I'd be raising here, there's value in calling this and calling most river bets especially if you are unsure of his tendencies.

2. I'd muck turn if I didn't see him 2 barrell much or give up on the river at least some of the time, he is just too tight and the reason he has got big aggresion on flop and turn is because he has it a lot.

3. Hand played too weird to fold now

4. Honestly I think this is a fold, everything got there and I don't see many people bluffing in this spot or betting worse than AQ.

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aernout   Netherlands. Jan 23 2013 04:46. Posts 161


  On January 17 2013 22:01 Tensai176 wrote:
Call all four imo


is this villain from the first hand talking?


TalentedTom    Canada. Jan 23 2013 11:11. Posts 20070

#1 call (semi-close between raising but without a read on his tendancies / betsizing you must call here (there are a lot of fish that will never lead a strong hand and always CR it, but lead weaker ranges very often))
#2 fold turn
#3 - check river, raise if he bets small, ur 50% lead on the river is kinda awfull since you don't rep very many bluffs,
#4 - Fold, I don't see a FR player betting worse here. I think he also checks back AT on the flop a ton

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thtFnRvrRat   Poland. Jan 25 2013 12:49. Posts 21

Well, what would you say if he re-raised in response to your raise in #1? Wouldn't that put him on 6X? Wouldn't it be better to just call to avoid that?


aernout   Netherlands. Jan 26 2013 06:27. Posts 161


  On January 25 2013 11:49 thtFnRvrRat wrote:
Well, what would you say if he re-raised in response to your raise in #1? Wouldn't that put him on 6X? Wouldn't it be better to just call to avoid that?



yeah but I don't know if it weights up to giving me a free card with all his junky hands


TalentedTom    Canada. Jan 29 2013 10:08. Posts 20070


  On January 26 2013 05:27 aernout wrote:
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yeah but I don't know if it weights up to giving me a free card with all his junky hands

giving a freeish card to this player type is almost irrelevant - the highest drawing equity he ever has here is 25%, more then likely he has less, what you don't wanna do is put yourself in a spot where you have no idea whats going on and you find yourself getting the majority of the money in with 5% equity

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