Galfond crushed isildur :(

On January 15 2013 03:35 BadGoNe wrote: That said, I hope Isildur1 keeps his 500k stop loss rule he has been having. He seemed to cashout all winnings after his sessions and kept only 500k to play with. We need to see him win some vs Galfond since he is the last one that has the BR to play him at the higher stakes Sauce can't afford to play the stakes Isildur1 sits at (down $2mil to Isildur1 this month) and I doubt Kanu is going to play Isildur1 again soon after his 700k loss to him. They'll try to rebuild before playing him again. Variance is too high when playing the swede lol

Where do you get your info that sauce "can't afford to play these stakes"

Sauce/Galfond have made over $10million AND most likely sell action in some way or another when they are in the super deep 120k games. Isi even sells chunks of action, he isn't 100% of himself 100% of the time.

Variance wise, it's hard to say who can actually afford these stakes.

no one.
you probably need something like 200bi.

On January 15 2013 21:01 Highcard wrote: Show nested quote + On January 15 2013 03:35 BadGoNe wrote: That said, I hope Isildur1 keeps his 500k stop loss rule he has been having. He seemed to cashout all winnings after his sessions and kept only 500k to play with. We need to see him win some vs Galfond since he is the last one that has the BR to play him at the higher stakes Sauce can't afford to play the stakes Isildur1 sits at (down $2mil to Isildur1 this month) and I doubt Kanu is going to play Isildur1 again soon after his 700k loss to him. They'll try to rebuild before playing him again. Variance is too high when playing the swede lol Where do you get your info that sauce "can't afford to play these stakes"

prob from this

Sauce1234: hey Isildur1: hi Sauce1234: 3 tables 150/300 RiT ? Isildur1: to tiered for that Sauce1234: i know smal for you but im v broke Sauce1234: i want chance to play again Isildur1: come 4800 1 table, we can do rit Sauce1234: not so nice to win 2m and then refuse to play below 4/800 Isildur1: lol u dont think im fair Sauce1234: no, never have Isildur1: i can drop down to 255500 for you Sauce1234: no Isildur1: hah Isildur1: then get out of here Sauce1234: if i win cpl sesh we move up Sauce1234: or when i get money on here Isildur1: sure ill wait Isildur1: gl Sauce1234: good sport isil ...

On January 15 2013 21:01 Highcard wrote: Show nested quote + On January 15 2013 03:35 BadGoNe wrote: That said, I hope Isildur1 keeps his 500k stop loss rule he has been having. He seemed to cashout all winnings after his sessions and kept only 500k to play with. We need to see him win some vs Galfond since he is the last one that has the BR to play him at the higher stakes Sauce can't afford to play the stakes Isildur1 sits at (down $2mil to Isildur1 this month) and I doubt Kanu is going to play Isildur1 again soon after his 700k loss to him. They'll try to rebuild before playing him again. Variance is too high when playing the swede lol Where do you get your info that sauce "can't afford to play these stakes" Sauce/Galfond have made over $10million AND most likely sell action in some way or another when they are in the super deep 120k games. Isi even sells chunks of action, he isn't 100% of himself 100% of the time. Variance wise, it's hard to say who can actually afford these stakes.

10mil isnt enough for these stakes.

Correct, but taking calculated bankroll shots and selling action has an EV to it that I do not know for sauce, however, I know sauce knows for himself. He wouldn't waste his time and neither would Galfond

Atta boy.

Lol @ the people who call Galfond a bumhunter. He has a small list of people he won't/rarely play, and most of them are his friends.

Anyways, game selection is an important skill, even for the best players in the world.

They were buying in for 120k on each of their 3 tables.
1.2mil is 10 buy-ins and Sauce was down 2mil mostly to isildur1.

Even with 10mil winning lifetime and as you mentioned correctly they don't even have 100% of themselves when playing these stakes so out of the 10mil I doubt 100% was their action. So they don't have 10mil BR because they won 10mil.

Also I agree they can take shot and selling action and still have +EV but when you are down 2mil in 3 days, I think you stop your shot/your backers bail out

Anyways Isildur1 down over $2mil in the last 3 days. He is now lifetime up $800k+ while his peak was at +$3mil. Still up a bit shy of $4mil since FTP re-opened but how long will it last?

On January 14 2013 16:41 Daut wrote: at one point in time he was probably quite a bit of a bumhunter. back when he would just sit and wait for action at 50/100 - 300/600 PLO and NL HU. but when he first came up through the limits he was a shot taking degen who played anyone, and nowadays he plays pretty much anyone.

Forget where he said this, but he said that (the 50/100-300/600 wait for action period) period was one of his bigger poker regrets.

On January 16 2013 02:04 BadGoNe wrote: They were buying in for 120k on each of their 3 tables. 1.2mil is 10 buy-ins and Sauce was down 2mil mostly to isildur1. Even with 10mil winning lifetime and as you mentioned correctly they don't even have 100% of themselves when playing these stakes so out of the 10mil I doubt 100% was their action. So they don't have 10mil BR because they won 10mil. Also I agree they can take shot and selling action and still have +EV but when you are down 2mil in 3 days, I think you stop your shot/your backers bail out

not sure who exactly would want to back any of these guys when playing against each other. if one has an edge over another, it's going to be something that only that person can understand. if other ppl understood it, they'd be exploiting it themselves. of the people who have the money to put up for splitting the action, who would even want to? i know i wouldn't.

double post

On January 16 2013 07:32 MARSHALL28 wrote: Show nested quote + On January 16 2013 02:04 BadGoNe wrote: They were buying in for 120k on each of their 3 tables. 1.2mil is 10 buy-ins and Sauce was down 2mil mostly to isildur1. Even with 10mil winning lifetime and as you mentioned correctly they don't even have 100% of themselves when playing these stakes so out of the 10mil I doubt 100% was their action. So they don't have 10mil BR because they won 10mil. Also I agree they can take shot and selling action and still have +EV but when you are down 2mil in 3 days, I think you stop your shot/your backers bail out not sure who exactly would want to back any of these guys when playing against each other. if one has an edge over another, it's going to be something that only that person can understand. if other ppl understood it, they'd be exploiting it themselves. of the people who have the money to put up for splitting the action, who would even want to? i know i wouldn't.

So you are implying that every person that is backing someone, would it be tournaments or cash game, is able to beat the same game his horses are playing? If so why are there so many games being played with action shared?

Also we all know that Isildur1 has tendancies to tilt and to play marathon sessions where he isn't playing his A game and being over-aggressive in various spots.
But knowing that doesn't make me able to exploit it (I wish it was though lol)

We all know phil galfond is a bumhunter. ain't no same in that.

he himself has also said that the opportunity cost of grinding 5/10 and potentially going into a huge downswing isn't worth jeopardizing his ability to play fish at nosebleeds.

no one's denying the guy's talent and skill, but we all know he only plays in games he knows he has an edge in. it can be called disciplined, good bankroll management, or bumhunting.

badgone pretty sure u misunderstood me.

...

all u guys tryin to claim phil galfond is a bumhunter or whatever, any one of you should feel free to sit with him, i guarantee he'll give u action. u realize he's among the top 5-10 players in the world for the last 6 or so years?

On January 16 2013 07:32 MARSHALL28 wrote: Show nested quote + On January 16 2013 02:04 BadGoNe wrote: They were buying in for 120k on each of their 3 tables. 1.2mil is 10 buy-ins and Sauce was down 2mil mostly to isildur1. Even with 10mil winning lifetime and as you mentioned correctly they don't even have 100% of themselves when playing these stakes so out of the 10mil I doubt 100% was their action. So they don't have 10mil BR because they won 10mil. Also I agree they can take shot and selling action and still have +EV but when you are down 2mil in 3 days, I think you stop your shot/your backers bail out not sure who exactly would want to back any of these guys when playing against each other. if one has an edge over another, it's going to be something that only that person can understand. if other ppl understood it, they'd be exploiting it themselves. of the people who have the money to put up for splitting the action, who would even want to? i know i wouldn't.

other degen gamblers because these guys are pretty much all degen gamblers and have lots of degen gamblerfriends

On January 16 2013 21:16 MARSHALL28 wrote: badgone pretty sure u misunderstood me. ... all u guys tryin to claim phil galfond is a bumhunter or whatever, any one of you should feel free to sit with him, i guarantee he'll give u action. u realize he's among the top 5-10 players in the world for the last 6 or so years?

Yes probably. English isn't my native language
Anyways, let's hope Isildur1 holds on to some of his winnings.

Sauce recovered quite well since losing $2mil to Isildur1 by playing "lower stakes" (150/300 and 250/500). He managed to win back about $800k between stars and FTP accounts:

On January 16 2013 07:56 BadGoNe wrote: Show nested quote + On January 16 2013 07:32 MARSHALL28 wrote:   On January 16 2013 02:04 BadGoNe wrote: They were buying in for 120k on each of their 3 tables. 1.2mil is 10 buy-ins and Sauce was down 2mil mostly to isildur1. Even with 10mil winning lifetime and as you mentioned correctly they don't even have 100% of themselves when playing these stakes so out of the 10mil I doubt 100% was their action. So they don't have 10mil BR because they won 10mil. Also I agree they can take shot and selling action and still have +EV but when you are down 2mil in 3 days, I think you stop your shot/your backers bail out not sure who exactly would want to back any of these guys when playing against each other. if one has an edge over another, it's going to be something that only that person can understand. if other ppl understood it, they'd be exploiting it themselves. of the people who have the money to put up for splitting the action, who would even want to? i know i wouldn't. So you are implying that every person that is backing someone, would it be tournaments or cash game, is able to beat the same game his horses are playing? If so why are there so many games being played with action shared?

because degenerate

lmao wobby ftw

Wobbly, why did you play 100-200 and 200-400?