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aernout   Netherlands. Dec 31 2012 06:41. Posts 161 | | |
hand 1
Villain has a 50bb stack, plays 17/14. has a 58% fold to 3bet and a 1.8 4bet over 4.3k hands. My plan otf was just to bet here and get it it in on any turn card. Now the turn card card is a ace and villain has 14.36$ left on the turn, is it still correct to shove on the turn?
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$50.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Sunday, December 30, 06:26:41 ET 2012
Table Luscinia IV Real Money
Seat 9 is the button
Seat 1: Player1 $53.46 USD - VPIP: 26, PFR: 22, 3B: 9, AF: 11.5, Hands: 199
Seat 2: Hero $62.85 USD - VPIP: 17, PFR: 14, 3B: 4, AF: 4.3, Hands: 166252
Seat 4: Player4 $19.25 USD - VPIP: 5, PFR: 4, 3B: 4, AF: Infinity, Hands: 233
Seat 5: Player5 $50.00 USD - VPIP: 16, PFR: 13, 3B: 4, AF: 2.8, Hands: 7808
Seat 6: Player6 $26.85 USD - VPIP: 17, PFR: 14, 3B: 5, AF: 4.5, Hands: 4312
Seat 7: Player7 $36.04 USD - VPIP: 30, PFR: 5, 3B: 2, AF: 1.3, Hands: 114
Seat 8: Player8 $42.07 USD - VPIP: 33, PFR: 19, 3B: 8, AF: 1.4, Hands: 67
Seat 9: Player9 $62.53 USD - VPIP: 17, PFR: 8, 3B: 8, AF: 1.0, Hands: 60
Player1 posts small blind [$0.25 USD].
Hero posts big blind [$0.50 USD].
Holecards Dealt to Hero [ ]
Player4 folds
Player5 folds
Player6 raises [$1.50 USD]
Player7 folds
Player8 calls [$1.50 USD]
Player9 folds
Player1 folds
Hero raises [$5.50 USD]
Player6 calls [$4.50 USD]
Player8 folds
Flop (Pot : $13.25)
  Hero bets [$6.50 USD]
Player6 calls [$6.50 USD]
Turn (Pot : $26.25)
  
hand 2
Villain plays 13/8, has a 3% 3bet from the SB over 400 hands, what is the best way of playing on the flop/turn? Is it correct to just outright fold on the flop?
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$50.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Sunday, December 30, 02:05:04 ET 2012
Table Nongoma III Real Money
Seat 4 is the button
Seat 1: Player1 $82.95 USD - VPIP: 36, PFR: 5, 3B: 5, AF: 0.9, Hands: 95
Seat 3: Player3 $23.36 USD - VPIP: 16, PFR: 13, 3B: 5, AF: 2.1, Hands: 4012
Seat 4: Hero $59.75 USD - VPIP: 17, PFR: 14, 3B: 4, AF: 4.3, Hands: 166252
Seat 5: Player5 $50.93 USD - VPIP: 13, PFR: 8, 3B: 3, AF: 3.1, Hands: 393
Seat 6: Player6 $44.36 USD - VPIP: 14, PFR: 8, 3B: 0, AF: 3.0, Hands: 63
Seat 9: Player9 $52.43 USD - VPIP: 17, PFR: 13, 3B: 5, AF: 2.7, Hands: 4969
Player5 posts small blind [$0.25 USD].
Player6 posts big blind [$0.50 USD].
Holecards Dealt to Hero [ ]
Player9 folds
Player1 folds
Player3 folds
Hero raises [$1.25 USD]
Player5 raises [$4.75 USD]
Player6 folds
Hero calls [$3.75 USD]
Flop (Pot : $10.25)
  Player5 bets [$6.50 USD]
Hero calls [$6.50 USD]
Turn (Pot : $23.25)
   Player5 bets [$15.00 USD]
hand 3
Villain is playing 20/17 over 272 hands, on the river its looking like he really wants a call. Should Ive just folded there?
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$50.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Sunday, December 30, 01:28:03 ET 2012
Table Vega II Real Money
Seat 1 is the button
Seat 1: Player1 $54.00 USD - VPIP: 19, PFR: 17, 3B: 11, AF: 5.6, Hands: 272
Seat 2: Player2 $23.64 USD - VPIP: 13, PFR: 12, 3B: 4, AF: 3.7, Hands: 2956
Seat 3: Player3 $50.75 USD - VPIP: 19, PFR: 16, 3B: 5, AF: 2.4, Hands: 2428
Seat 4: Hero $50.75 USD - VPIP: 17, PFR: 14, 3B: 4, AF: 4.3, Hands: 166252
Seat 5: Player5 $67.21 USD - VPIP: 31, PFR: 10, 3B: 4, AF: 1.7, Hands: 597
Seat 6: Player6 $51.24 USD - VPIP: 32, PFR: 20, 3B: 11, AF: 1.5, Hands: 25
Seat 7: Player7 $50.00 USD - VPIP: 25, PFR: 11, 3B: 2, AF: 1.9, Hands: 168
Seat 8: Player8 $29.41 USD - VPIP: 19, PFR: 16, 3B: 5, AF: 4.7, Hands: 1887
Seat 9: Player9 $20.00 USD - VPIP: 11, PFR: 10, 3B: 7, AF: 5.0, Hands: 2110
Player2 posts small blind [$0.25 USD].
Player3 posts big blind [$0.50 USD].
Holecards Dealt to Hero [ ]
Hero raises [$1.50 USD]
Player5 folds
Player6 folds
Player7 folds
Player8 folds
Player9 folds
Player1 calls [$1.50 USD]
Player2 folds
Player3 folds
Flop (Pot : $3.75)
  Hero bets [$2.00 USD]
Player1 calls [$2.00 USD]
Turn (Pot : $7.75)
   Hero checks
Player1 bets [$3.50 USD]
Hero calls [$3.50 USD]
River (Pot : $14.75)
    Hero checks
Player1 bets [$4.50 USD]
hand 4
Villain is a fish and is playing 32/13, is calling otr bad? I don’t know if he ever does it with any worse than a straight/flush. We do have 16% pot odds on a call otr.
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$50.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Sunday, December 30, 09:08:13 ET 2012
Table Luscinia III Real Money
Seat 9 is the button
Seat 1: Player1 $53.33 USD - VPIP: 17, PFR: 14, 3B: 5, AF: 2.4, Hands: 3888
Seat 2: Player2 $46.87 USD - VPIP: 18, PFR: 8, 3B: 10, AF: 1.7, Hands: 78
Seat 3: Player3 $21.25 USD - VPIP: 9, PFR: 8, 3B: 5, AF: 4.5, Hands: 1239
Seat 4: Player4 $42.39 USD - VPIP: 31, PFR: 13, 3B: 4, AF: 0.9, Hands: 86
Seat 5: Player5 $25.57 USD - VPIP: 16, PFR: 15, 3B: 5, AF: 6.0, Hands: 700
Seat 6: Player6 $19.25 USD - VPIP: 18, PFR: 15, 3B: 5, AF: 3.5, Hands: 534
Seat 7: Player7 $50.75 USD - VPIP: 14, PFR: 12, 3B: 4, AF: Infinity, Hands: 328
Seat 8: Player8 $50.00 USD - VPIP: 16, PFR: 13, 3B: 7, AF: 2.1, Hands: 516
Seat 9: Hero $59.64 USD - VPIP: 17, PFR: 14, 3B: 4, AF: 4.3, Hands: 166252
Player1 posts small blind [$0.25 USD].
Player2 posts big blind [$0.50 USD].
Holecards Dealt to Hero [ ]
Player3 folds
Player4 calls [$0.50 USD]
Player5 folds
Player6 folds
Player7 folds
Player8 folds
Hero raises [$2.00 USD]
Player1 folds
Player2 folds
Player4 calls [$1.50 USD]
Flop (Pot : $4.75)
  Player4 checks
Hero bets [$2.50 USD]
Player4 calls [$2.50 USD]
Turn (Pot : $9.75)
   Player4 checks
Hero bets [$5.00 USD]
Player4 calls [$5.00 USD]
River (Pot : $19.75)
    Player4 bets [$4.50 USD]
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r0mx0   Slovakia. Dec 31 2012 08:11. Posts 1581 | | |
forget 9 max . play 6 max |
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aernout   Netherlands. Dec 31 2012 08:30. Posts 161 | | |
| | On December 31 2012 07:11 r0mx0 wrote:
forget 9 max . play 6 max |
yeah that deffinitely helped, thanks for the advice on the hands |
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Oly   United Kingdom. Dec 31 2012 08:41. Posts 3585 | | |
1: cf both turn and river. Your only hope would be him turning a pair into a bluff and it's a very slim hope. 1:2 spr is still enough.
2: Fold turn. Yeah he has some combos of AK but it's just not enough against a nit.
3: You must bet turn. A good chunk of his range has picked up the other half of pair and gutty so will call again, and you could have picked something up so he wont fold a queen yet. As played fold has to be good to that size.
4: Bet the turn much bigger and call this river bet. |
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Rapoza   Brasil. Dec 31 2012 14:53. Posts 1612 | | | |
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Oly   United Kingdom. Dec 31 2012 16:04. Posts 3585 | | | |
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Almebeast   Sweden. Dec 31 2012 21:36. Posts 797 | | |
OP just listen to Oly 
Question about hand 2: If we fold that turn, are there any turn cards except a Q that we can continue on? Shouldn't we just muck pre, even though it seems ridiculous? I mean this nit probably has a 3bet range of {QQ+, AK} in this spot. So there's basically no difference between 22 and QQ for us. Is it worth calling pre only to pick up a smallish pot the times when he has AK and gives up? |
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priaph   Czech Republic. Jan 01 2013 10:52. Posts 43 | | |
H2: can we ever fold out AA KK by shoving the turn? I mean, how happy are you when a solid player shoves ott against your aces & kings... If yes, he has twice as many combinations of those than of TT JJ (if he 3bets TT) and sometimes we take the pot from AK that doublebarrels/get it in vs AhKh. So FR players, do we have FE on the turn? |
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Almebeast   Sweden. Jan 01 2013 11:59. Posts 797 | | |
We should have zero FE vs KK-AA. |
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aernout   Netherlands. Jan 01 2013 19:22. Posts 161 | | |
| | On December 31 2012 20:36 Almebeast wrote:
OP just listen to Oly 
Question about hand 2: If we fold that turn, are there any turn cards except a Q that we can continue on? Shouldn't we just muck pre, event though it seems ridiculous? I mean this nit probably has a 3bet range of {QQ+, AK} in this spot. So there's basically no difference between 22 and QQ for us. Is it worth calling pre only to pick up a smallish pot the times when he has AK and gives up? |
well I stoved and with QQ against JJ+,AKs,AKo we have 47% equity so idk maybe youre right about folding preespecially since we have so little invested in the pot. but 400 hands isnt that big of a sample though. |
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idonklife   Sweden. Jan 02 2013 10:20. Posts 182 | | |
i never really played FR but:
hand #1: like oly said pretty much. but how would you play if you had an ace in your hand? still check some of the time?
hand #2: fold or raise pre if you're considering folding this board (and any board except a queen). you haven't given us any stats for streets. maybe he's a nit preflop but not so much postflop. so can't give any advice except calling down really.
hand #3: i always bet turn (really weird check) but would never fold river as played. (i would probably close to always bet this river if i were villain in this spot). call and make a note of sizing and hand imo.
hand #4: like oly said.
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