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MARSHALL28   United States. Dec 26 2012 03:41. Posts 1897

why can't i connect to game center game server?


Daut    United States. Dec 26 2012 11:29. Posts 8955


  On December 25 2012 21:58 player999 wrote:
played a lot w/ friends last 2 days, game is so awesome

this hand came up playing HU today

me:
9cAd
QhQc3d3s
8s8d8c8h4c

villain:
AsTd
AcKdTc4h2s
JsJd7h4s

I draw 4d

we got 4 outs to improve on front (three 9s for +4 royalty, 1 ace for +9), and 4 to improve middle (for epic +12 on middle)
however we lose the scoop if we put it at front. what do you guys think?

what if it were 3 or 4 handed btw?

results (not that it matters):
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this is actually a fairly easy EV problem. just have to know how much to scoop, how much to win 2 also and you can write out the different scenarios and calculate it. have to take into account that you can still win the top if you draw a KQJT and he doesnt draw an A/T/9 or higher broadway. I guess its not so easy haha, but you just have to be pretty meticulous

NewbSaibot: 18 TIMES THE SPEED OF LIGHT. Because FUCK YOU, DautLast edit: 26/12/2012 11:33

NMcNasty    United States. Dec 27 2012 05:51. Posts 2039

Yeah I think playing for the scoop is best.

Something like %30 you get an extra 5 when u place 4 in middle vs 10% you hit ur boat and get 12.

So .30 * 5 > .1 * 12 without even counting top royalties yet.


kingpowa   France. Jan 08 2013 08:52. Posts 1525

Was bored, did the math.

There are 28 cards left.
If you play your 4 on front, you have 4 cards to win +12 (royalty for a full house in the middle)
If you play your 4 on middle, you are aiming at the scoop and royalties for pairs on top:

3 nines to win both scoop and royalty (+5+4), and 1 Ace for (+5+9), and it is not clear which cards will you make win only the scoop (let's assume J+ : 2 Jacks, 2 Queens, 3 Kings), so 7 cards to win (+5).

So if 4 on front, ev : 4/28*12=1,71

If 4 on middle, 3/28*9+1/28*14+7/28+5=0,96+0,5+1,25=2,71

So it's pretty clear you should play for the scoop.

But if you were to play in second, if getting a higcard, he could (and should) play it on top, in order to secure the top. If he puts a Quen, you still should go for the scoop, but if he places a King, it would be better to place the 4 on top.

sorry for shitty english. 

kingpowa   France. Jan 08 2013 08:55. Posts 1525

Concenring the points, can someone confirm that at at every hand the sum of the points must be zero ?
so if we are two, and I have a +12 royalty, my opponent has -12, and +12 for me.
And if we are three, they both have -12, and I have +24 (+12 from each)
is that right ?

sorry for shitty english. 

thewh00sel    United States. Jan 08 2013 14:24. Posts 2734


  On January 08 2013 07:55 kingpowa wrote:
Concenring the points, can someone confirm that at at every hand the sum of the points must be zero ?
so if we are two, and I have a +12 royalty, my opponent has -12, and +12 for me.
And if we are three, they both have -12, and I have +24 (+12 from each)
is that right ?


Yeah that's right. Although if you're heads up you don't really need to do negative for one person and positive for the other since all that really tells you is who owes what; you can just add points to one person. Also in a casino setting you just pay at the end of each hand.

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TimDawg    United States. Jan 15 2013 15:57. Posts 10197

If anyone wants to add me on game center, I'm TimDawg888

online bob is actually a pretty smart person, not at all like the creepy fucker that sits in the sofa telling me he does nasty shit to me when im asleep - pinball 

MARSHALL28   United States. Jan 16 2013 06:04. Posts 1897

too bad this thread didn't go anywhere.

hey jonny wanna play some chinese? 50$ pt?


Trolala   Estonia. Jan 17 2013 06:51. Posts 2050

how can I play it on PC?


Enigma   Canada. Jan 30 2013 08:20. Posts 158

This is interesting variant, I've only ever played 13card chinese. where you set it all at once.
Super fun either way, gonna give this a try.


CarliC   Mexico. Feb 02 2013 19:32. Posts 15


  On January 17 2013 05:51 Trolala wrote:
how can I play it on PC?


I was wondering the same thing, anyone knows if its possible?

www.caldoteam.comLast edit: 02/02/2013 20:33

Denar   France. Feb 18 2013 16:30. Posts 39

It seems like this app has some serious security issues :

http://www.pokerstarsblog.com/team_po...d-on-the-open-face-chines-130327.html

So if you have been seeing some fishy play, it might be related...


CarliC   Mexico. Feb 19 2013 14:04. Posts 15


  On February 18 2013 15:30 Denar wrote:
It seems like this app has some serious security issues :

http://www.pokerstarsblog.com/team_po...d-on-the-open-face-chines-130327.html

So if you have been seeing some fishy play, it might be related...


So sad to read this, I havent play for money but really wanted to. Are they taking care of these issues? Will ever be safe to play for money or the developers dont care?

www.caldoteam.com 

ReDDcaFFe   Bulgaria. Feb 26 2013 08:28. Posts 1172

Can you make like 5+ fantasy lands in a row?

I cant wait to take their money 

JonnyCosMo   United States. Mar 27 2013 01:22. Posts 7292

You can make 100+ if u run hot enuf

Everyone needs to see that you are king of the castle - PoorUser 

BILAT_POWER!!!   Philippines. Jul 29 2013 04:05. Posts 1525


how's this game? still gaining momentum, or just a fad?

serious question. i am hoping stars/tilt will have real money ofc games in the future.


TimDawg    United States. Jul 30 2013 01:25. Posts 10197

i've been playing a lot more of the pineapple version with friends

basically the same as regular OFC but instead of one card at a time, you get 3 at once and you must play 2 and discard 1 (the discards are face down). the game is much faster + you can go to fantasy a lot more/make better royalties

hopefully the OFC app will come out with an update for it as it continues to get more popular

online bob is actually a pretty smart person, not at all like the creepy fucker that sits in the sofa telling me he does nasty shit to me when im asleep - pinball 

JonnyCosMo   United States. Jul 30 2013 03:13. Posts 7292

The pineapple version is absolute crack. When they update the OFC app on iPhone w the pineapple version I will be playing none stop. Timdawg add me

Everyone needs to see that you are king of the castle - PoorUser 

djforever   Canada. Jul 30 2013 22:27. Posts 1510


  On July 30 2013 00:25 TimDawg wrote:
i've been playing a lot more of the pineapple version with friends

basically the same as regular OFC but instead of one card at a time, you get 3 at once and you must play 2 and discard 1 (the discards are face down). the game is much faster + you can go to fantasy a lot more/make better royalties

hopefully the OFC app will come out with an update for it as it continues to get more popular



we play aces up top as the qualifier for fantasy in pineapple instead of queens.


JonnyCosMo   United States. Aug 02 2013 05:41. Posts 7292


  On July 30 2013 21:27 djforever wrote:
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we play aces up top as the qualifier for fantasy in pineapple instead of queens.


fuck that. embrace the variance

Everyone needs to see that you are king of the castle - PoorUser 

 
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