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JonnyCosMo   United States. Oct 18 2012 06:59. Posts 7292 | | |
Played poker with a guy named Barry tonight. He owns a pretty big trading firm in Chicago that screens thousands of college grads each year to see if they are a good fit to be a trader. Apparently the interview process includes these odd logic puzzles to see how you think on your feet. He gave me a few tonight that were interesting to think about: (Try to answer each question in 5 minutes time, goal is to create an answer that makes some sense)
1. There are three 1 pound balls that need to be carried over a bridge. The bridge can only hold a total weight of you + 2 balls. Your task is to transport all 3 balls across the bridge in one trip. How do you do it?
2. A man works on the 50th floor. When he starts work, he takes the elevator to the 18th floor, then uses the stairs to walk up the remaining 32 floors. On the way back home, he takes the elevator all the way down. Why does he do this?
3. You find a man lying dead in the desert. There is nothing around him. You know what killed him, and you know exactly what he was doing before he died. What was he doing before he died and what killed him?
4. If I told you that I could flip a coin and pick heads or tails correctly 2 out of every 3 coin flips, what odds would you lay me?
5. Using only one mathematical symbol, and all the numbers between 0 and 9 (once and without repeating) make the equation equal 99.
And now for the harder ones that you can take your time with.
6. There are 3 light switches outside of a room. One of the switches is connected to a light bulb inside the room. Each of the three switches can be either 'ON' or 'OFF'. You are allowed to set each switch the way you want it before entering the room. Once you enter the room the door will lock you inside until you can determine which switch controls the bulb. How do you figure out which switch controls the bulb?
7. Mr. Black, Mr. Gray, and Mr. White are fighting in a truel. They each get a gun and take turns shooting at each other until only one person is left. Mr. Black, who hits his shot 1/3 of the time, gets to shoot first. Mr. Gray, who hits his shot 2/3 of the time, gets to shoot next, assuming he is still alive. Mr. White, who hits his shot all the time, shoots next, assuming he is also alive. The cycle repeats. If you are Mr. Black, where should you shoot first for the highest chance of survival?
Post others if you guys find more interesting ones.
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nlwolf   United Kingdom. Oct 18 2012 09:02. Posts 308 | | |
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60 + 1+2+3+4+5+7+8+9 = 99
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Shooting at White dominates shooting at Gray.
Why?
-if you miss it doesnt matter whom were you shooting at
-if you hit and kill Gray, you die always
-if you hit and kill White you still can win
Prob of winning when shooting White first: 31%
Better option: miss on purpose, then fight whomever is left next round. Probability of winning = 40%
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CamilaPunt   Brasil. Oct 18 2012 09:49. Posts 2422 | | |
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turn switch 1 on for a few minutes and turn it off, turn 2nd one on and get inside room
if bulb is hot and off -->switch 1
if bulb is on -> switch 2
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player999   Brasil. Oct 18 2012 09:53. Posts 7978 | | | |
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CamilaPunt   Brasil. Oct 18 2012 10:00. Posts 2422 | | | |
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TeSpartan   Iceland. Oct 18 2012 10:25. Posts 15 | | |
Read in Scottish accent (more fun lol)
Four old Vikings have only one lit torch. They are standing besides a narrow bridge in the middle of the night after a long day of battle, the bridge only holds two big Vikings at a time so to get home they must cross the bridge two at a time.
Each of them are wounded differently so their crossing time over the bridge is not equally long:
Viking A is rather healthy, it takes him 5 minutes to cross the bridge
Viking B is wounded, it takes him 10 minutes to cross the bridge
Viking C is wounded, it takes him 20 minutes to cross the bridge
Viking D is badly wounded, it takes him 25 minutes to cross the bridge
It is so dark that they cannot see unless one Viking carries the lit torch that they have over the bridge.
e.g. if A and C travel together over, their time would be 20 minutes and someone would have to bring the torch back to B and D waiting on the other side.
What is the shortest time for all of them to cross the bridge and get home safe and sound? And in what order should they go?
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TeSpartan   Iceland. Oct 18 2012 10:32. Posts 15 | | |
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Odds of guessing 3 out of 3 is: 1/8
Eight different results:
Odds of guessing 2 out of 3 is: Right Wrong Right
Wrong Right Right
Right Right Wrong = 3/8 = 37,5%
To be +EV you should lay someone lower odds than 3/8
Right or wrong  ?
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nlwolf   United Kingdom. Oct 18 2012 10:41. Posts 308 | | |
| | On October 18 2012 09:25 TeSpartan wrote:
Read in Scottish accent (more fun lol)
Four old Vikings have only one lit torch. They are standing besides a narrow bridge in the middle of the night after a long day of battle, the bridge only holds two big Vikings at a time so to get home they must cross the bridge two at a time.
Each of them are wounded differently so their crossing time over the bridge is not equally long:
Viking A is rather healthy, it takes him 5 minutes to cross the bridge
Viking B is wounded, it takes him 10 minutes to cross the bridge
Viking C is wounded, it takes him 20 minutes to cross the bridge
Viking D is badly wounded, it takes him 25 minutes to cross the bridge
It is so dark that they cannot see unless one Viking carries the lit torch that they have over the bridge.
e.g. if A and C travel together over, their time would be 20 minutes and someone would have to bring the torch back to B and D waiting on the other side.
What is the shortest time for all of them to cross the bridge and get home safe and sound? And in what order should they go?
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1.A,B -> A returns
2.C,D -> B returns
3.A,B
Time
1: 10+5 = 15min
2: 25+10 = 35min
3: 10 min
total = 60m
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TheHuHu3   United States. Oct 18 2012 10:49. Posts 5544 | | |
2 is easy. Player999 got it.
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Guy was a pilot and he lost his parachute |
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Rapoza   Brasil. Oct 18 2012 11:19. Posts 1612 | | | |
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Rapoza   Brasil. Oct 18 2012 11:25. Posts 1612 | | | |
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Rapoza   Brasil. Oct 18 2012 11:29. Posts 1612 | | | |
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Daut   United States. Oct 18 2012 11:45. Posts 8955 | | |
ok went through them and wrote down thought process
1: + Show Spoiler +
juggling is what i immediately thought of
2: + Show Spoiler +
hes short and cant reach the 50th floor button (have seen a variation of this before)
3: + Show Spoiler +
there are basically infinite answers to this. i am assuming this is one of those games where you have to figure out exactly what the questioner wants, but usually that involves asking many questions. with no questions, the answer i would give would be something along the lines of he was shot by the us government while looking for area 51 (cause i read about area 51 recently)
4: + Show Spoiler +
assuming a balanced coin and assuming you mean guess 2 or 3 out of 3....the odds are 1/8+3/8=1/2, so i would give you 1:1
5: + Show Spoiler +
my gut would tell me to use something other than + first. i assume subtraction will be easier than addition. 0123456789 the sum of these numbers is 45. so starting with 135, the sum of these numbers is 9, the sum of the remaining numbers is 36. 135-2-4-6-7-8-9-0=99
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have seen this before. i believe the answer is to turn the first two on and leave the 3rd switch off. after 30 minutes, you turn 2nd bulb off then enter the room. the on one is the first switch, the hot one is the 2nd switch and the cold bulb is the 3rd switch.
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im going to assume the only thing that matters is survival and not length of time staying alive. im also going to assume the players are logical and try to increase their chances of survival. i.e. if both first 2 guys missed, mr white will shoot mr gray cause it is 2/3 that mr gray kills him but only 1/3 that you klll him. this implies that mr gray will shoot at mr white because no matter what mr white will shoot at him and kill him next.
if you shoot at mr gray (1/3) you die immediately, (2/3) you miss, then (2/3)*(2/3) you are HU with gray when he shoots white. this leads to an endless string of 1/3*2/3 type things since you can both miss forever by running bad and it has a formula that i dont remember about cantor sets but we can estimate. your odds of winning are (4/9)*(1/3+2/27+4/243....this seems like it approaches 4/9 would be my guess). (2/3)*(1/3) its HU vs mr white (who kills mr gray after he misses) and (2/3)*(1/3)*(1/3) you WIN (2/3)*(1/3)*(2/3) you die.
so your odds of winning are.....(4/9)*(4/9)+ 2/27. so you win 16/81+6/81=22/81
if you shoot at mr white first (2/3) you miss. 2/9 you HU with mr white. (4/27) you win, 8/27 you die. then 4/9 you HU with gray. (16/81) you win, (20/81) you die. (1/3) you hit white. then odds of winning are (1/27+2/243+4/2187....about 1/21?)
16/81+1/21 is smaller than 22/81
shoot at gray first.
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Rapoza   Brasil. Oct 18 2012 11:58. Posts 1612 | | | |
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player999   Brasil. Oct 18 2012 12:05. Posts 7978 | | |
question 4 he means what odds to give him that he gets one single flip right, answers above are off
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answer is to give him better than 1:2, or -200, in the long run he risks 2 and loses once and wins 1 twice
but answering the guy I'd say I'd give him 1:5 cuz I wanna extract more, thats the answer he is looking for |
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MARSHALL28   United States. Oct 18 2012 12:10. Posts 1904 | | |
1. Build a raft.
2. The elevator broke on his way up.
3. If I already know, doesn't that defeat the purpose of the question?
4. I wouldn't lay you any because the coin is probably rigged.
5. im bad at math!!! ...
ill post the others after thinking
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Moksha   . Oct 18 2012 14:47. Posts 1 | | |
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a) bowling-roll 1 ball to otherside
b) walk across with the 2 remaining balls
c) ???
d) PROFIT!!!1
Popularish but one of my favs:
You are at a cross road, and you see two kids playing. One of them always tells the truth, the other always lies. You don't know which one is which.
You get to ask one question to one of them find out the correct direction.
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player999   Brasil. Oct 18 2012 16:10. Posts 7978 | | |
| | On October 18 2012 13:47 Moksha wrote:
1) + Show Spoiler +
a) bowling-roll 1 ball to otherside
b) walk across with the 2 remaining balls
c) ???
d) PROFIT!!!1
Popularish but one of my favs:
You are at a cross road, and you see two kids playing. One of them always tells the truth, the other always lies. You don't know which one is which.
You get to ask one question to one of them find out the correct direction.
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if I ask him if he lies, will he say yes? |
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Almebeast   Sweden. Oct 18 2012 19:25. Posts 797 | | |
| | On October 18 2012 13:47 Moksha wrote:
1) + Show Spoiler +
a) bowling-roll 1 ball to otherside
b) walk across with the 2 remaining balls
c) ???
d) PROFIT!!!1
Popularish but one of my favs:
You are at a cross road, and you see two kids playing. One of them always tells the truth, the other always lies. You don't know which one is which.
You get to ask one question to one of them find out the correct direction.
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Where would the other guy tell me to go? (Then head opposite way)
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NewbSaibot   United States. Oct 18 2012 21:18. Posts 4952 | | |
1. How big is the bridge?
2. Exercise
3. He was doing the thing that killed him, and he died because he was doing that.
4. I would lay you 1:100. No, 1:1000. Fuck it, 1:1000000000. I will lay you the lowest possible odds I can convince you to take.
5. 12345678 = 99. I used the numbers between 0 and 9, and I made them equal 99. The equal symbol itself is a mathematical symbol.
6. Turn 2 switches on. Then randomly guess which of the 2 is the light. It's worth the 50/50 gamble plus you might get lucky and the light will still be off when you enter. There's no guarantee the bulb will be accessible to touch, and some bulbs dont produce a perceptible level of heat.
7. Forfeit your turn and shoot into the air. You cant risk #3 living and killing you, you need to let #2 have his chance first. Upon seeing this they are likely to duel each other giving you more time. Then just roll the dice and try to kill whoever is left.
At first these answers might seem silly, but the goal is to be pragmatic. Usually these kinds of questions are meant to assess your line of thinking, not get a correct answer, since obviously there can be no correct answer most of the time. I've heard of interviewers asking questions like "how many golf balls could fill this room?" and "explain a database to your 5 year old nephew in 3 sentences". It's a personality test. |
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