On August 19 2012 17:14 uiCk wrote:
Ur shits restarted and taco is right, you leech on peoples ideas and incorporate them to strengthen your personal belief. Prove can be seen in fact you have yet to answer, negate any of my hundreds of statements I have made, and continuasly keep repeating and not explaingng, but stating, your belief.
Its like if the evolution of science has led to the evolution of religious people into incorporating rational in their beliefs. Which is very true and fucked up.
How can you leech on peoples ideas, that is the most rediculous thing I have heard in a long time. Dude the world we think we know was build from people building on other peoples ideas. Did you know that ideas are not your personal belongings?
What do you want me to negate? I can try, but I am not the oracle of Delphi, there are things that can not be explained, but only guessed or assumed.
And again I am not here to convince you of anything at all, I dont care what you believe. I am here to explain how I see it and listen to how other people would explain it.
I started out with nothing and I still got most of it left
Why does there need to be an over mind, a central control, if we are the over mind? You think your brain is just that a brain, or is out a collection of cells and neurons that need to work togheter with the environment around us to produce a result, image, thought etc? Why does there need to be a central over mind and who controls him, if you use your thought process, there NEEDs to be another force controlling that over mind and so forth. That is the principle of your belief and also the fault in your belief making it very much not plausible.
I wish one of your guys had children if I could kick them in the fucking head or stomp on their testicles so you can feel my pain because thats the pain I have waking up everyday -- Mike Tyson
On August 19 2012 17:14 uiCk wrote:
Ur shits restarted and taco is right, you leech on peoples ideas and incorporate them to strengthen your personal belief. Prove can be seen in fact you have yet to answer, negate any of my hundreds of statements I have made, and continuasly keep repeating and not explaingng, but stating, your belief.
Its like if the evolution of science has led to the evolution of religious people into incorporating rational in their beliefs. Which is very true and fucked up.
How can you leech on peoples ideas, that is the most rediculous thing I have heard in a long time. Dude the world we think we know was build from people building on other peoples ideas. Did you know that ideas are not your personal belongings?
Then go borrow some more advanced thought processes, Cruz current one or using is very weak.
I wish one of your guys had children if I could kick them in the fucking head or stomp on their testicles so you can feel my pain because thats the pain I have waking up everyday -- Mike Tyson
On August 19 2012 17:21 uiCk wrote:
Why does there need to be an over mind, a central control, if we are the over mind? You think your brain is just that a brain, or is out a collection of cells and neurons that need to work togheter with the environment around us to produce a result, image, thought etc? Why does there need to be a central over mind and who controls him, if you use your thought process, there NEEDs to be another force controlling that over mind and so forth. That is the principle of your belief and also the fault in your belief making it very much not plausible.
Because we obviously don't control the nature, environment and space so someone at least not human does that. God controls the overmind and no one controls God, God and the overmind is really just a metaphor for the knowledge hidden from us, we are also God.
I started out with nothing and I still got most of it left
Ok I give up, I was trying to have a civil discussion to explain and learn but somehow some people take offence if they can not follow a thought or their world view is brought into question and then they resort to immature remarks. I am out of this thread, have a nice experience!
I started out with nothing and I still got most of it left
On August 19 2012 17:36 Zorglub wrote:
Ok I give up, I was trying to have a civil discussion to explain and learn but somehow some people take offence if they can not follow a thought or their world view is brought into question and then they resort to immature remarks.
Yeah you tell yourself that it's because you are so totally logical that you super duper distorted our world views man.
Us non-enlightened freaks are just holding you down.
"Whaaa someone is using curse words sometimes and doesn't support my choice of murdering children whaa"
On August 19 2012 17:36 Zorglub wrote:
Ok I give up, I was trying to have a civil discussion to explain and learn but somehow some people take offence if they can not follow a thought or their world view is brought into question and then they resort to immature remarks.
Yeah you tell yourself that it's because you are so totally logical that you super duper distorted our world views man.
Us non-enlightened freaks are just holding you down.
"Whaaa someone is using curse words sometimes and doesn't support my choice of murdering children whaa"
Go kill some whales you icelandic whalekilling faggot, logic was specifically designed so it can not prove it, do you understand you stupid asshole? Do you still want to discuss you retarded son of a bitch?
I started out with nothing and I still got most of it left
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dogmeat Czech Republic. Aug 19 2012 18:59. Posts 6374
You gave up because you realized that you keep repeating the same thing, which is nor an explanation nor definition, which you seemed to have perceived as a discussion.
You have no stated anything else then
God controls us
We are being tricked, by god
Everything is known, and god is the one who losses that knowledge.
We don't exist but are merely image created by god, so we are god but we don't exist.
That's it. Over peroabably 100 posts, you have repeated all those points numerous times. Free will? God trick. Many different human behaviors? Tricked by god. Its normal that people get angered when all my ideas are ignored and you claim they are all false because in the end, its all an illusion. You have been Civil yes. Disrespect full ? Also yes.
Have I and others done the same? Yes sure. But I guess you can take our own advice, and that god tricked you into feeling attacked by immature remarks to give some closure to this discussion. Best kind of closure, ignorance.
I wish one of your guys had children if I could kick them in the fucking head or stomp on their testicles so you can feel my pain because thats the pain I have waking up everyday -- Mike Tyson
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dogmeat Czech Republic. Aug 19 2012 19:11. Posts 6374
On August 19 2012 18:00 uiCk wrote:
Yes sure. But I guess you can take our own advice, and that god tricked you into feeling attacked by immature remarks to give some closure to this discussion. Best kind of closure, ignorance.
For the first time in this discussion you are absolutely right, have a nice time!
I started out with nothing and I still got most of it left
I wish one of your guys had children if I could kick them in the fucking head or stomp on their testicles so you can feel my pain because thats the pain I have waking up everyday -- Mike Tyson
Does God have a plan for us? If yes, what is it? If he is omnipotent why does he need a simulator for experience? To me it would seem like the sum of whats happening in the cosmos outweighs the collective human experience. Wouldn't the simulation be more fun with free will ?
Also lol @ the metaphysical solipsism argument. "No one exists, no one suffers, it's all just a play in your own mind." Well damn I am enlightened now.
The funny thing is my epistemology is definitely solipsistic, but metaphysical solipsists like you Zorglub push too far in saying that they definitely do not exist. Such a position of certainty cannot be argued for or against and is quite evidently unintelligible and therefore faith-based.
A friend of mine has made a good video related to this a while ago:
fuck I should just sell some of my Pokemon cards, if no one stakes that is what I will have to do - lostaccount
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brambolius Netherlands. Aug 20 2012 04:29. Posts 1708
On August 19 2012 17:36 Zorglub wrote:
Ok I give up, I was trying to have a civil discussion to explain and learn but somehow some people take offence if they can not follow a thought or their world view is brought into question and then they resort to immature remarks.
Yeah you tell yourself that it's because you are so totally logical that you super duper distorted our world views man.
Us non-enlightened freaks are just holding you down.
"Whaaa someone is using curse words sometimes and doesn't support my choice of murdering children whaa"
Go kill some whales you icelandic whalekilling faggot, logic was specifically designed so it can not prove it, do you understand you stupid asshole? Do you still want to discuss you retarded son of a bitch?
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dogmeat Czech Republic. Aug 20 2012 19:24. Posts 6374
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