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InsideMan   United Kingdom. Aug 02 2012 06:00. Posts 158

I would like to spend a little bit of time, once a week, learning another poker variant that isn't mainstream. Just to be clear, I'm excluding the following games in all variations: Hold'em, Omaha Hi.
I know Galfond also likes to play 2-7 triple draw, which might be a good option. Thoughts?

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Defrag   Poland. Aug 02 2012 06:25. Posts 2693

2-7 triple draw, 7 card stud add Razz seems to be most popular, as they even had WSOP bracelet events this year.


RaSZi   Netherlands. Aug 02 2012 07:25. Posts 4089

Badugi, 2-7td /sd nl , and from there you can learn badacey and baduecy as they are played in most mixes live

 Last edit: 02/08/2012 07:25

InsideMan   United Kingdom. Aug 02 2012 07:35. Posts 158

@ Defrag

Yea, good point.

@ RaSZi

I've never heard of badacey and baduecy before, thanks for the info.

Any thoughts on which of these games require the most skill?

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Webjoker   Netherlands. Aug 02 2012 07:50. Posts 432

13/9 card Chinese - skillgame!


NMcNasty    United States. Aug 02 2012 10:59. Posts 1338

Omaha8 is the next biggest game but its kind of boring. I suggest learning triple draw, it runs by itself often enough on stars and is part of the 8game mix.


InsideMan   United Kingdom. Aug 02 2012 11:49. Posts 158


  On August 02 2012 10:59 NMcNasty wrote:
Omaha8 is the next biggest game but its kind of boring. I suggest learning triple draw, it runs by itself often enough on stars and is part of the 8game mix.



Yea, was also gonna ask which one the games are fun to play.

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RaSZi   Netherlands. Aug 06 2012 17:05. Posts 4089

Triple draw is a lot of fun. It goes a lot faster than badacey (split pot game between ace-5 and bagugi) and baduecey (split pot game between 2-7 and badugi) and it's always in mix games. Plus if you learn that one the rest comes kind of easy.


NewbSaibot   United States. Aug 06 2012 22:39. Posts 3598

Played this the other weekend.

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InsideMan   United Kingdom. Aug 07 2012 06:14. Posts 158


  On August 06 2012 22:39 NewbSaibot wrote:
Played this the other weekend.




Haha, I've heard 2-7 is like the Omaha of limit games.

Read up on the rules yesterday and played some micro stakes, looks like fun, I will be learning this on the side.

Is there any recommended reading? I've seen the sticky on 2+2 in "Draw and Other Poker" that has some interesting articles.

edit: I also see Cardrunners has some videos.

There is no such thing as certainty in life, only opportunity. Last edit: 07/08/2012 06:16

NMcNasty    United States. Aug 07 2012 10:05. Posts 1338

Negreanu actually has a very good chapter on it in SuperSystem2.

 Last edit: 07/08/2012 11:50

InsideMan   United Kingdom. Aug 07 2012 10:32. Posts 158


  On August 07 2012 10:05 NMcNasty wrote:
Negreanu actually has a very good chapter on in in SuperSystem2.



That's funny you should say that. I watched Triple Draw 101 on Cardrunners and he was saying that he thinks Negreanu was fishy in 2-7 triple draw, because in SSII he said it's ok to draw two on the last draw.

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NMcNasty    United States. Aug 07 2012 12:18. Posts 1338

I've seen the cardrunners vids years ago but can't remember the details except that they were hilariously overproduced. I think they were geared more toward low stakes players where tight ABC poker is enough. I really haven't found anything I strongly disagree with in the Negreanu chapter, if anything it might be too conservative. On average drawing two on the end is a bad play, but there are plenty of situations in which its fine, in blind battles or when the pot is very large for example. It actually takes a bit of math homework to figure that sort of stuff out. Like pretty much all forms of poker, the higher stakes games are much more aggressive, so draws and calldowns that are pretty much unthinkable at the low stakes become necessary.


 




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