In the mood for another roundtable discussion type thread where we attempt to get to the bottom of an issue that seemingly does not have a bottom. Even if we don't get to a bottom, hopefully, we can all learn something.
Stretching: What's the deal with it?
The subject baffles me. I've heard it's fantastic. I've heard it's ok. I've heard it's marginal at best. I've heard it's not good.
Personally, I don't know. I've done a mix of everything and just don't know.
I guess:
-I've found warming up and cooling down properly has much higher utility
-I've found not being an idiot has much higher utility
-I've found just breathing whether that's cardio or yoga or meditation seems to have higher utility
Stretching is similar to supplements in that people that take the time to stretch are healthy and well more so b/c of all the other things they are doing rather than stretching itself.
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dogmeat Czech Republic. Aug 01 2012 19:32. Posts 6374
I almost always warm up by doing some light exercise then stretching in some way simply because it helps my muscles to prepare and reduces any tension/soreness but haven't really found a need to cool down it just sounds like quitting early to me.
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I believe the going theory is that you can forget about stretching before exercise to help with muscle soreness or to prevent injury. Instead light warm up work is preferred ie/ dynamic stretching and if you must stretch do it post exercise when the muscles are already warm. I know I've read an article on this subject in the last year or so but I just can't find it. It would have been on pubmed or sciencedaily.
As for increasing flexibilty I have no idea how stretching applies, it's never interested me.
On August 01 2012 18:21 RiKD wrote:
Here's an opening statement/argument:
Stretching is similar to supplements in that people that take the time to stretch are healthy and well more so b/c of all the other things they are doing rather than stretching itself.
Agreed. I've read "factoids" that appear in newspapers or magazines that stretching can add ~10 years to your life etc but have never seen the paper the factoid is based on. You'd think that it would be hard to isolate and observe. There may be benefits to old people with circulation or something but I don't know enough to argue for or against it.
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Stroggoz New Zealand. Aug 01 2012 21:40. Posts 5365
what?! You have to stretch after a big amount of exercise otherwise your muscles will be extremely sore the next day.
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I practice BJJ - a sport in which being more flexible than the average human is extremely useful.
When I started practicing BJJ I was absolutely fucking terrible at every stretch imaginable but with countless hours of rolling
I've automatically become more flexible.
This started the addiction.
Since then I've been stretching for 20 minutesish after every exercise, mostly my legs/hips, and have
become exceedingly flexible for someone with my build. I'm more capped by my own bodyfat % than
my tendons in most stretches now.
I can almost bring my butt completely down with my legs split to the sides and can easily grab over
my feet and to the bottom of my ankles without hesitation nor warm-up.
I did this by simply stretching my legs in their desired positions a few nights of the month
whilst I used the computer (doesn't work out for the stretch-to-toes/ankles one obv)
I do not feel any more "healthy" after stretching so much nor would I put much work into it unless I was
exceedingly inflexible and/or limited in some way by it (as I was in BJJ. Gogoplatas all day erryday now)
and/or female.
I am however certain that it would be much harder for me to become injured, which is the obvious
benefit of stretching for any athlete.
Actual stretching (as opposed to ligament warmups) is a ridiculous thing to do before exercising imo.
As an example it has been demonstrated that you can't lift as much weight after stretching as you can before stretching.
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LikeASet United States. Aug 01 2012 23:33. Posts 2113
There are no significant studies out there that I am aware of that traditional static stretching will increase your ranges of motion. There are some studies that show that hamstring stretches display the most benefit. I've also read that static stretching can decrease performance immediately after performing the stretching.
My whole take on it is that I'll do dynamic stretching sometimes to warm up (i.e. swinging my arms/legs backwards and forwards and side to side) and sometimes I'll perform static stretching after weight training. Though I'm not sure if there's any solid proof out there that static stretching while speed up the healing process after intense resistance training.
On August 01 2012 22:33 LikeASet wrote:
There are no significant studies out there that I am aware of that traditional static stretching will increase your ranges of motion.
Personally, although I do love studies, I do not need a study in this case. I have increased my range of motion so much by stretching without
any sort of exercise.
Static stretching will of course not help you at all in increasing your range of motion if the limiting factor is a joint,
that would not make any sense, but it makes perfect sense and does when the limiting factor is your muscles (and by extension, your tendons).
TalentedTom Canada. Aug 02 2012 01:30. Posts 20070
my flexibility is really poor, i've always wanted to improve it but never took any steps to make that happen
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auffenpuffer Finland. Aug 02 2012 01:31. Posts 1429
If stretching does not increase range of motion, then what does?
On August 01 2012 20:24 Funktion wrote:
I believe the going theory is that you can forget about stretching before exercise to help with muscle soreness or to prevent injury. Instead light warm up work is preferred ie/ dynamic stretching and if you must stretch do it post exercise when the muscles are already warm. I know I've read an article on this subject in the last year or so but I just can't find it. It would have been on pubmed or sciencedaily.
As for increasing flexibilty I have no idea how stretching applies, it's never interested me.
On August 01 2012 18:21 RiKD wrote:
Here's an opening statement/argument:
Stretching is similar to supplements in that people that take the time to stretch are healthy and well more so b/c of all the other things they are doing rather than stretching itself.
Agreed. I've read "factoids" that appear in newspapers or magazines that stretching can add ~10 years to your life etc but have never seen the paper the factoid is based on. You'd think that it would be hard to isolate and observe. There may be benefits to old people with circulation or something but I don't know enough to argue for or against it.
I've heard that it's terrible to stretch while cold i.e. totally preworkout so i always do some kind of light excercise before then stretch a bit.
On August 01 2012 20:40 Stroggoz wrote:
what?! You have to stretch after a big amount of exercise otherwise your muscles will be extremely sore the next day.
Interesting. I'll experiment with that a bit Maybe I've just shrugged off the concept of warming down too, I usually run to where I want to go then just stop and often run at max speed before stopping. Sometimes I get sore, sometimes it's np. If you're on the treadmill it seems less weird to warm down slowly. I've got some friends quite into running and they never seem to stretch after a run or cooldown but do warmup in some way, maybe we're just noobs!
if poker is dangerous to them i would rank sports betting as a Kodiak grizzly bear who smells blood after you just threw a javelin into his cub - RaiNKhAN
Stretching improves the time of recovery. The faster you recover, the more you can train. When you are a competing athlete this is important.
Stretching increases range of motion. Stretching elongates your muscles, tendons and ligaments making them stronger.
Stretching improves your body awareness. Knowing your limits help you perform to the maximum of your ability.
Stretching improves co-ordination. Being stronger in increased range of motion is a good thing.
There are two types of stretches: static and dynamic. You can stretch during any time of day. You rarely see 100m dash competitors stretch before the start or a weightlifting champion stretch before the lift but let me assure you those athletes stretch aswell. If you don't have stretching as a part of your training regime then start the countdown to injuries. Feel free to adjust the timers clock as you will.
Here is some food for thought:
Take the top 10 contestants for every olympic event and calculate their average stretching ability and compare that to the stretching ability of yourself. If you want to perform better you got to stretch more, simple as that.
If you go by hearsay then you are probably misinformed.
If i get my books back i can reference sources for the naysayers.
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Venrae United States. Aug 02 2012 15:24. Posts 1545
I don't do it but pretty sure it's good for you if done right. I've heard each end of the spectrum as well but haven't looked in to it enough to have a real opinion. Just thought throwing out MWoD would help some people.
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YoMeR United States. Aug 02 2012 15:46. Posts 12438
read up on stretches via googleing. it's common knowledge that being flexible reduces risk of injury dramatically, increases over all strength (due to increased range of motion and being able to utilize your full motion more effectively), helps you heal after intense work outs, and just overall makes you feel better...
and being poker players sitting at the computer/casino all day/night stretching out hip flexer muscles and other muscles such as quads, hams etc actually help with back pains/posture/health...having a very tight upper leg/hip area can potentially lead to back problems later. I know personally stretching has helped me immensely in that area.
sorry i didn't read thread so i may be reposting someone else's thoughts but just thought i'd share some general knowledge.
If you're an athlete I think stretching can be beneficial. If you're somebody who is just exercising for general fitness and to look good then I don't think its necessary. Lifting weights and cardio keeps me flexible enough
Edit: I also spend a lot of time on my feet throughout the day so maybe my personal experience isn't relevant to somebody who spends their day in a chair
Can you stretch your lower back, I randomly get sick pain there, not from doing "anything wrong". I take walks, i do exercise 5-10 min every morning and night, I train 3 - 4 times a week, I always get up a lot, and stuff when sitting. Not fat, but get a lot of pain in my lower back. Anyone know if you can uhm, do something magical and make it go away lol?
On August 02 2012 15:06 Mariuslol wrote:
Can you stretch your lower back, I randomly get sick pain there, not from doing "anything wrong". I take walks, i do exercise 5-10 min every morning and night, I train 3 - 4 times a week, I always get up a lot, and stuff when sitting. Not fat, but get a lot of pain in my lower back. Anyone know if you can uhm, do something magical and make it go away lol?
Go see and doctor and/or physical therapist, you'll only get a bunch of wacked out advice here
He/she will probably tell you to build core strength and perhaps give you a few stretches for the back. Yea you can stretch your back, it just looks awkward and might require a medicine ball or some other prop. Pretty much +1 to what Yomer said for you Marius, let us know how it went. I have yet to come across on the internet half the exercises my physical therapist gave me. She drew stickfigures on a piece of paper. Definitely worth the time.
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EvilSky Czech Republic. Aug 02 2012 17:05. Posts 8918
I always forget to stretch, Im pretty sure I have the joints of a 70 year old.
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okyougosu Russian Federation. Aug 02 2012 17:23. Posts 963
the main point in stretching is the ability to perform roundhouse kick headshots
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NewbSaibot United States. Aug 02 2012 19:09. Posts 4952
Uh, does anybody here who doesnt advocate stretching actually work out? It's pretty well known you will insta-pull a muscle or otherwise injure yourself if you start heavy lifting without any warmup/stretching at all.
On August 02 2012 15:06 Mariuslol wrote:
Can you stretch your lower back, I randomly get sick pain there, not from doing "anything wrong". I take walks, i do exercise 5-10 min every morning and night, I train 3 - 4 times a week, I always get up a lot, and stuff when sitting. Not fat, but get a lot of pain in my lower back. Anyone know if you can uhm, do something magical and make it go away lol?
Go see and doctor and/or physical therapist, you'll only get a bunch of wacked out advice here
M J D !
good to see ya, was hopin to see ya, good to see ya.
On August 02 2012 18:09 NewbSaibot wrote:
Uh, does anybody here who doesnt advocate stretching actually work out? It's pretty well known you will insta-pull a muscle or otherwise injure yourself if you start heavy lifting without any warmup/stretching at all.
I don't do any warm up at all for weight sessions and I do dynamic stretching before I run. I do both frequently and I have never had an injury at all (we are talking over many years).
Edit: For clarity I run mostly sprints and maybe once a week or so longer distances just for fun.
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WhyYouKickMyDog United States. Aug 02 2012 23:17. Posts 1623
On August 02 2012 14:16 cariadon wrote:
Stretching improves the time of recovery. The faster you recover, the more you can train. When you are a competing athlete this is important.
Stretching increases range of motion. Stretching elongates your muscles, tendons and ligaments making them stronger.
Stretching improves your body awareness. Knowing your limits help you perform to the maximum of your ability.
Stretching improves co-ordination. Being stronger in increased range of motion is a good thing.
There are two types of stretches: static and dynamic. You can stretch during any time of day. You rarely see 100m dash competitors stretch before the start or a weightlifting champion stretch before the lift but let me assure you those athletes stretch aswell. If you don't have stretching as a part of your training regime then start the countdown to injuries. Feel free to adjust the timers clock as you will.
Here is some food for thought:
Take the top 10 contestants for every olympic event and calculate their average stretching ability and compare that to the stretching ability of yourself. If you want to perform better you got to stretch more, simple as that.
If you go by hearsay then you are probably misinformed.
If i get my books back i can reference sources for the naysayers.
i did a lot of research last year after having back problems, and i've used static and dynamic stretching (and strength training) to fix a bunch of issues with my posture. ive also discussed it a TON with friends who have done an extreme amount of research, alot more than me. Theres alot of bad information in what you said... bold = corrections
Stretching does not improve the time of recovery.
Stretching increases range of motion. Stretching elongates your muscles, tendons and ligaments making them temporarily (hours) weaker, with no impact on strength in the longer term.
Stretching improves your body awareness. However, it has no impact on any measure of athleticism except for flexibility.
There are three types of stretches: static and dynamic and ballistic. You can stretch during any time of day. You rarely see 100m dash competitors stretch before the start or a weightlifting champion stretch before the lift because it temporarily reduces strength. I don't know about runners, but powerlifters generally stretch for only one reason - to address a specific inflexibility that prevents them from performing a lift with good form .
There have been a huge number of high quality studies on the link between stretching and injuries. The results are clear - stretching has 0 effect on injury rates. This isn't even a debate anymore in the fitness community.
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WhyYouKickMyDog United States. Aug 02 2012 23:19. Posts 1623
Funktion took care of all the sources for me, thanks
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dogmeat Czech Republic. Aug 02 2012 23:47. Posts 6374
On August 02 2012 22:17 WhyYouKickMyDog wrote:
Stretching does not improve the time of recovery.
it doesnt improve actual recovery but it improves how u 'feel' during that time, at least for me
On August 02 2012 16:05 cariadon wrote:
He/she will probably tell you to build core strength and perhaps give you a few stretches for the back. Yea you can stretch your back, it just looks awkward and might require a medicine ball or some other prop. Pretty much +1 to what Yomer said for you Marius, let us know how it went. I have yet to come across on the internet half the exercises my physical therapist gave me. She drew stickfigures on a piece of paper. Definitely worth the time.
Yeap, ok, i'll update later, It's in 3,5 hours or so
On August 02 2012 14:16 cariadon wrote:
Stretching improves the time of recovery. The faster you recover, the more you can train. When you are a competing athlete this is important.
Stretching increases range of motion. Stretching elongates your muscles, tendons and ligaments making them stronger.
Stretching improves your body awareness. Knowing your limits help you perform to the maximum of your ability.
Stretching improves co-ordination. Being stronger in increased range of motion is a good thing.
There are two types of stretches: static and dynamic. You can stretch during any time of day. You rarely see 100m dash competitors stretch before the start or a weightlifting champion stretch before the lift but let me assure you those athletes stretch aswell. If you don't have stretching as a part of your training regime then start the countdown to injuries. Feel free to adjust the timers clock as you will.
Here is some food for thought:
Take the top 10 contestants for every olympic event and calculate their average stretching ability and compare that to the stretching ability of yourself. If you want to perform better you got to stretch more, simple as that.
If you go by hearsay then you are probably misinformed.
If i get my books back i can reference sources for the naysayers.
i did a lot of research last year after having back problems, and i've used static and dynamic stretching (and strength training) to fix a bunch of issues with my posture. ive also discussed it a TON with friends who have done an extreme amount of research, alot more than me. Theres alot of bad information in what you said... bold = corrections bold corrections indeed, but you and your friends are wrong.
Stretching does not improve the time of recovery. stretching most definitely improves the rate of recovery after an injury
Stretching increases range of motion. Stretching elongates your muscles, tendons and ligaments making them temporarily (hours) weaker, with no impact on strength in the longer term. being able to perform in a larger range of motion is most definitely a big plus in a dynamic activity e.g the supervast majority of sports
Stretching improves your body awareness. However, it has no impact on any measure of athleticism except for flexibility.
There are three types of stretches: static and dynamic and ballisticballistic stretching is a form of dynamic stretching. You can stretch during any time of day. You rarely see 100m dash competitors stretch before the start or a weightlifting champion stretch before the lift because it temporarily reduces strength. I don't know about runners, but powerlifters generally stretch for only one reason - to address a specific inflexibility that prevents them from performing a lift with good form . re-read the line again, you missed the point + Show Spoiler +
top athletes who compete in whatever form of powerful short duration event use stretching as a part of their workout
There have been a huge number of high quality studies on the link between stretching and injuries. The results are clear - stretching has 0 effect on injury rates. This isn't even a debate anymore in the fitness community. i'm glad i don't belong to said community
Bodybuilding is a very specific type of sport. Just because you feel enlightened by facts i am aware of doesn't mean you need to undermine and attempt at taking a piss on my post. WhyYouKickMyDog you are anti-stretching i am pro-stretching. I have a question for you. Am i better off stretching a lot or not stretching at all ?
On August 02 2012 22:17 WhyYouKickMyDog wrote:
i did a lot of research last year after having back problems, and i've used static and dynamic stretching (and strength training) to fix a bunch of issues with my posture. ive also discussed it a TON with friends who have done an extreme amount of research, alot more than me.
Stretching does not improve the time of recovery.
Stretching increases range of motion. Stretching elongates your muscles, tendons and ligaments making them temporarily (hours) weaker, with no impact on strength in the longer term.
Stretching improves your body awareness. However, it has no impact on any measure of athleticism except for flexibility.
There have been a huge number of high quality studies on the link between stretching and injuries. The results are clear - stretching has 0 effect on injury rates. This isn't even a debate anymore in the fitness community.
Let's see.
1. You have back problems.
2. You use static and dynamic stretching (and strength training).
3. It fixed a bunch of issues with your posture.
4. You write the exact opposites "correcting" my post.
Correct me if i am wrong.
By using static and dynamic exercises you reduced the time of recovery. Imagine not having stretched at all.
Your range of motion has increased. You are stronger now than you were before you were injured.
By having a better posture and better range of motion you are less likely to be injured again.
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WhyYouKickMyDog United States. Aug 03 2012 09:57. Posts 1623
Everything i said is correct. I clearly pointed out that stretching does have usefulness - it increases flexibility. That is the only measurable benefit of stretching. Stretching does NOT prevent injury, reduce the intensity or duration of soreness, or do many of those other myths you spouted. The only thing it does is increase flexibility, which was most certainly helpful in correcting my posture.
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LikeASet United States. Aug 03 2012 11:10. Posts 2113
Yes, even NASM and other trainer certification organizations state that there is an on going debate about stretching whether it has direct impact on injury rates and any long term significant benefits. Most bodybuilding pros advocate warming up with the same exact movements as the exercise you're about to do in the actual workout. So if you're going to do squats, you don't really need to be stretching your quads, glutes, hamstrings, etc. just do multiple warm up sets of squatting with very light weight making sure you're going through the full range of motion. If you're a fairly deconditioned person and there is a particular tight muscle group that prevents you from doing a certain movement correctly, then you can myofascial release (foam rolling), dynamic, and static stretching to help relax and loosen the particular muscle group.
If you're about to train intensely and you're in a cold area, then a 5-10 warm up cardio session will help reduce injury. To promote recovery after an intense workout just focus on light cardio afterwards (i do 15-30 mins) followed by a meal as soon as possible.
Hmm seems like some confusion and/or misunderstandings are starting to filter in because people are not referring to stretching as either static or dynamic.
I wonder if BJ Penn truly has a weaker mid-section due to being highly flexible as GSP seemed to believe.
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WhyYouKickMyDog United States. Aug 03 2012 12:37. Posts 1623
On August 03 2012 11:07 Funktion wrote:
Hmm seems like some confusion and/or misunderstandings are starting to filter in because people are not referring to stretching as either static or dynamic.
I wonder if BJ Penn truly has a weaker mid-section due to being highly flexible as GSP seemed to believe.
ya for the most part i was referring to static stretching. dynamic stretching also warms up your muscles, which absolutely prevents injury. dynamic stretching seems to prevent injury just as well as other types of warming up (by warming up i mean literally increasing temperature of muscles - not stretching). this isnt extremely well studied though.
not sure if GSP is right or not about that. the evidence shows that stretching only has a temporary effect on strength, lasting for a few hours, no longer than 1 day. you can be extremely flexible and extremely strong too. Ronnie Coleman for example - and he stretches post-workout only.
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dogmeat Czech Republic. Aug 03 2012 13:13. Posts 6374
link on coleman being extremely flexible, coz he looks like he cant wipe his ass
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WhyYouKickMyDog United States. Aug 03 2012 13:29. Posts 1623
WhyYouKickMyDog United States. Aug 03 2012 13:38. Posts 1623
On August 03 2012 05:44 cariadon wrote:
Correct me if i am wrong.
By using static and dynamic exercises you reduced the time of recovery. Imagine not having stretched at all.
Your range of motion has increased. You are stronger now than you were before you were injured.
By having a better posture and better range of motion you are less likely to be injured again.
You are wrong. I increased my flexibility, which allowed me to have correct posture. I didn't recover from anything - there was no "injury" to recover from, and no soreness to recover from. There was only an occurence of pain as a direct result of maintaing poor posture for long periods of time, and fixing the posture nearly immediately fixed the pain.
You are flagrantly retarded if you believe stretching causes an increase in strength. I can understand why you're arguing some things, but that claim is just LOLOLOL
And yes, by having better posture and better range of motion, I am less likely to become injured. Having enough flexibility to move with correct form prevents injury. However, if you already have enough flexibility to perform movements with correct form, then there is no need to stretch, as stretching itself does not prevent injury. For pretty much all sports, its a bad idea to do static stretching before competing. Static stretching is only good for addressing a specific inflexibility that inhibits correct form for your sport-specific movements.
On August 02 2012 15:06 Mariuslol wrote:
Can you stretch your lower back, I randomly get sick pain there, not from doing "anything wrong". I take walks, i do exercise 5-10 min every morning and night, I train 3 - 4 times a week, I always get up a lot, and stuff when sitting. Not fat, but get a lot of pain in my lower back. Anyone know if you can uhm, do something magical and make it go away lol?
Go see and doctor and/or physical therapist, you'll only get a bunch of wacked out advice here
M J D !
good to see ya, was hopin to see ya, good to see ya.
I still read from time to time, but this forum really went over the deep end
Correct me if i am wrong.
By using static and dynamic exercises you reduced the time of recovery. Imagine not having stretched at all.
Your range of motion has increased. You are stronger now than you were before you were injured.
By having a better posture and better range of motion you are less likely to be injured again.
You are wrongRIGHT. I increased my flexibility, which allowed me to have correct posture. I didn't recover from anything - there was no "injury" to recover from, and no soreness to recover from. I recovered from a back problem that caused pain. There was only an occurence of pain as a direct result of maintaing poor posture for long periods of time, and fixing the posture nearly immediately fixed the pain. Spine and other bones are connected to muscles, the culprits responsible for problems in my lumbar region. Thank god i know DOMS (delayed onset muscle soreness) comes from exercising too much and no amount of post-exercise stretching will save me from being a dumbass in the first place.
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And yes, by having better posture and better range of motion, I am less likely to become injured. Having enough flexibility to move with correct form prevents injury. However, if you already have enough flexibility to perform movements with correct form, then there is no need to stretch, as stretching itself does not prevent injury. You were correct again and i am grasping at straws. I dodge the question about recovering from back problems (time) because my friends haven't done much research on the subject so i decide to use cloak and dagger.
You are flagrantly retardedwell informed if you believe stretching CAN causes an increase in strength because i suspect that by increasing our muscle length we are increasing the distance over which our muscles are able to contract. This results in a potential increase to our muscles power and therefore increases our athletic ability, while also leading to an improvement in dynamic balance, or the ability to control our muscles. I can understand why you're arguing some things, but that claim is just LOLOLOL For every muscle in the body there is an opposite or opposing muscle, (the antagonist). If the opposing muscles are more flexible, the working muscles do not have to exert as much force against the opposing muscles. Therefore each movement of the working muscles actually takes less effort. Also some of the dynamic stretch exercises get the small muscles you never thought you even had.
Now let me show everyone how smart i am. For pretty much all sports, its a bad idea to do static stretching before competing. WHAM ! I feel really smart even though nobody has argued the point. Static stretching is only good for addressing a specific inflexibility that inhibits correct form for your sport-specific movements and stretching is really important to maintaining flexibility!! I've also found out that there indeed are two types of stretching staticand dynamic Static stretches include static stretching, passive stretching, active stretching, PNF stretching and isometric stretching. Dynamic stretching is mostly ballistic, dynamic and active isolated stretching.
wow you guys argue in the most retarded way. Stop rewriting eachothers posts lol
what wackass site is this nigga?
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WhyYouKickMyDog United States. Aug 04 2012 09:34. Posts 1623
just rewrote his once when it made sense to get my point across. done with him, kids either a troll or brain damaged. he thinks stretching causes an increase in strength hahahahahahahahaha
On August 03 2012 05:44 cariadon wrote:
You are stronger now than you were before you were injured.
You are flagrantly retarded if you believe stretching causes an increase in strength. I can understand why you're arguing some things, but that claim is just LOLOLOL
Reading comprehension 101.
A+ would read again.
On February 19 2009 22:21 Confedrate wrote: i dont get it
"Stretching elongates your muscles, tendons and ligaments making them stronger."
This is word for word what i said. He just wanted to be smart but it came out all wrong.
Hey, doc told me I'm super tense all the time, cuz im awesome (didn't say the last part). Seems like I can't relax the muscles even if I try real hard, so got told to youtube some stretching for lower back.
Since when you stretch them they get more relaxed afterwards, other than that a lot of tips to unwind and unstress lal.
Doctor youtubed with me, and I remember this one:
For lower back, that's bout it, I don't remember much more, since she was kinda hot and I was a little flustered, after she'd been grabbing me all over. (Ok, only poked my stomach and back a bit).
On August 04 2012 17:40 Funktion wrote:
Forum says, "Go to a real doctor."
Doctor says, "Go on youtube".
Doctor says a lot of things and then shows you videos with specific stretches you should do, that you can access from home easily in case you forget them.
Not a quality post Funktion... not a quality post at all.
edit: i do something very very similar and i find it better than the standard stretch most do nice stretch
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iakim322 United States. Aug 04 2012 19:49. Posts 1335
For people who do yoga, do you just go to those free classes at your local gym or go to a private instructor/class? I'd like to go to fix a back problem and just increase flexibility.
Either way, how do you go about not looking like a creeper? I've briefly looked at the yoga classes going on at my gym, and I have yet to spot a guy.
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WhyYouKickMyDog United States. Aug 05 2012 16:47. Posts 1623
On August 03 2012 05:44 cariadon wrote:
You are stronger now than you were before you were injured.
You are flagrantly retarded if you believe stretching causes an increase in strength. I can understand why you're arguing some things, but that claim is just LOLOLOL
Reading comprehension 101.
A+ would read again.
? Did I misread something? He clearly stated he believes stretching increases strength (lol)
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WhyYouKickMyDog United States. Aug 05 2012 16:49. Posts 1623
On August 04 2012 18:49 iakim322 wrote:
For people who do yoga, do you just go to those free classes at your local gym or go to a private instructor/class? I'd like to go to fix a back problem and just increase flexibility.
Either way, how do you go about not looking like a creeper? I've briefly looked at the yoga classes going on at my gym, and I have yet to spot a guy.
I don't think going to a yoga class makes you look like a creeper, i'd just do it. Just find a yoga studio nearby. Unless you live in a college town, its 90% old ladies, usually very few hot chicks, and they won't think you're a creep.
On August 04 2012 17:40 Funktion wrote:
Forum says, "Go to a real doctor."
Doctor says, "Go on youtube".
Doctor says a lot of things and then shows you videos with specific stretches you should do, that you can access from home easily in case you forget them.
Not a quality post Funktion... not a quality post at all.
On August 04 2012 18:49 iakim322 wrote:
For people who do yoga, do you just go to those free classes at your local gym or go to a private instructor/class? I'd like to go to fix a back problem and just increase flexibility.
Either way, how do you go about not looking like a creeper? I've briefly looked at the yoga classes going on at my gym, and I have yet to spot a guy.
i'm no expert but have used a lot of rodney yee's dvds. back care yoga is fantastic. am pm yoga. yoga for beginners. yoga for athletes.
has anyone on this forum gone to a yoga class at a local gym? I would love to hear a trip report from someone on the other side.
Anytime I see a guy in one of those classes by himself it just screams out un-redeemable loser and/or creeper. They would have to end up being gay, a winning winner who just doesn't give a fuck and wanted to do some yoga (may or may not be high as fuck and/or tripping on acid), or a winning winner who is banging every chick in the class for that behavior to be redeemable. (i realize this last paragraph probably drastically reduces the chances of getting a trip report but it's kind of a "i could be being an asshole/prove me wrong" situation).
Uhm RiKD what do you have against yoga.. You look like you're just reinforcing stereotypes from films or something.
Go do yoga if you want to do yoga. Just don't mention once every three sentences that you do yoga if you're talking to someone
if you're so embarrassed.
People do yoga in the parks during summer. They might be really early or happen at random times so you've missed them. Just ask what's going on and if you can join them next time. They might ask for a small fee or it might be free. There are closed events aswell, or full groups. If you are nice and can interact with girls and have no problem being around a group of girls then they probably will welcome you. It might be a girl thing and you've got to respect that. If you are awkward with girls then you can start by doing stuff at home, learning from the internet. It is more fun to do yoga in groups but the point of the matter is - there are no shortcuts. Learning to do yoga correctly takes a lot of time and effort.
On August 04 2012 18:49 iakim322 wrote:
For people who do yoga, do you just go to those free classes at your local gym or go to a private instructor/class? I'd like to go to fix a back problem and just increase flexibility.
Either way, how do you go about not looking like a creeper? I've briefly looked at the yoga classes going on at my gym, and I have yet to spot a guy.
i'm no expert but have used a lot of rodney yee's dvds. back care yoga is fantastic. am pm yoga. yoga for beginners. yoga for athletes.
has anyone on this forum gone to a yoga class at a local gym? I would love to hear a trip report from someone on the other side.
Anytime I see a guy in one of those classes by himself it just screams out un-redeemable loser and/or creeper. They would have to end up being gay, a winning winner who just doesn't give a fuck and wanted to do some yoga (may or may not be high as fuck and/or tripping on acid), or a winning winner who is banging every chick in the class for that behavior to be redeemable. (i realize this last paragraph probably drastically reduces the chances of getting a trip report but it's kind of a "i could be being an asshole/prove me wrong" situation).
See that kind of typical perception of yoga is why I asked what I asked in the first place. I would also initially have a difficult time not looking at that only guy in the room as some loser (soon to be me), but I think that's just natural and it shouldn't be that way. I also second wanting to hear a trip report from someone. Still curious as to if people definitely recommend seeking out a private class as opposed to the gym ones. I'm probably going to try it out at the gym this week. My doctor keeps recommending I go for my back problems, and I guess I have no reason not to
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Maybe I've just shrugged off the concept of warming down too, I usually run to where I want to go then just stop and often run at max speed before stopping. Sometimes I get sore, sometimes it's np. If you're on the treadmill it seems less weird to warm down slowly. I've got some friends quite into running and they never seem to stretch after a run or cooldown but do warmup in some way, maybe we're just noobs!
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