MARSHALL28 United States. Aug 02 2012 22:47. Posts 1904
Maybe a lot of you guys are just too sensitive and also to quick to flame others. You guys seem a lot ruder than me. Calling me a douche for pretty much no reason I can tell.
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bigredhoss Cook Islands. Aug 02 2012 22:59. Posts 8649
On August 02 2012 18:51 MARSHALL28 wrote:
how was anything i said being a douche? ...
if i post in a HS forum, i expect responses from ppl who play HS.
i guess i coulda just ignored it...
out of the numerous people on this forum who have had more success than you at poker, it seems like the majority of them somehow manage to communicate with people who play lower stakes than themselves without being condescending or arrogant, in fact many of them are even polite and helpful.
not to mention the question is stupid and can be answered pretty much as well by someone playing lower stakes anyway. it's not like you're asking what your river c/r bluff frequency should be on xyz board vs a tough opponent. you're asking people over the internet how to deal with your own personal psychological weakness. it's the same thing as a 5nl player saying "variance make me sad what can i do".
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PoorUser United States. Aug 03 2012 00:16. Posts 7472
same as mid high stakes, mid stakes, low mid stakes, low stakes and microstakes swings. imagine that.
On August 02 2012 18:51 MARSHALL28 wrote:
how was anything i said being a douche? ...
if i post in a HS forum, i expect responses from ppl who play HS.
i guess i coulda just ignored it...
out of the numerous people on this forum who have had more success than you at poker, it seems like the majority of them somehow manage to communicate with people who play lower stakes than themselves without being condescending or arrogant, in fact many of them are even polite and helpful.
not to mention the question is stupid and can be answered pretty much as well by someone playing lower stakes anyway. it's not like you're asking what your river c/r bluff frequency should be on xyz board vs a tough opponent. you're asking people over the internet how to deal with your own personal psychological weakness. it's the same thing as a 5nl player saying "variance make me sad what can i do".
It seems to me that some people are just simply clueless about how they come off which is crazy since this is a poker forum since we are constantly thinking about image but Marshall and Wobbly both come to mind. I don't think they are purposely trying to come off as sarcastic, trollish or douchey they just do. It's like being color blind. Add in naniwa or so one of my friends tell me.
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MARSHALL28 United States. Aug 03 2012 02:56. Posts 1904
On August 02 2012 23:16 PoorUser wrote:
same as mid high stakes, mid stakes, low mid stakes, low stakes and microstakes swings. imagine that.
And none of you jump on something like this and get all riled up about it? ...
This is someone who plays higher stakes being condescending to someone who plays lower stakes.
I've taken shit like this for a long time and I don't ever whine or complain or call someone who does this a douche. I take what I can learn from it and I move on.
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bigredhoss Cook Islands. Aug 03 2012 03:14. Posts 8649
you are hopeless :|
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MARSHALL28 United States. Aug 03 2012 03:53. Posts 1904
On August 03 2012 02:14 bigredhoss wrote:
you are hopeless :|
K.. So you've been proven wrong and you decide to avoid the issue by making a statement that I have no recourse in order to respond against.
Who is the douche now?
If you were a reasonable person -- which I would struggle to believe at this point, you might be able to take a step back and look at how --you come off on internet forums.
I doubt that will happen though, people like you are too set in their ways.
Honestly, you are just an oversensitive and incredibly biased troll. So I'm going to stop responding to your posts. Think what you want of me. I am always straight up,, even when I know I come across bad in certain instances. I am soon going to withdraw from most if not all poker websites because I'm just getting sick of putting up with the politics and the over-sensitivity that the majority of posters exhibit. You know you are wrong so you respond with a 3 word line since you got nothing else to back it up. It pisses me off because I feel compelled to respond -- thus contributing to the world of trolls-- something I have a major problem with and am going to fix that by not responding to any message or post that doesn't absolutely need a response from me.
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bigredhoss Cook Islands. Aug 03 2012 05:02. Posts 8649
sorry marshall, you did a nice job of proving me wrong.
anyway it seems like you've found a solution to the problem you seem to have with being victimized on forums by sensitive people like myself, which is totally random and has nothing to do with your personality, so i wish you the best of luck with your withdrawal from poker websites.
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PoorUser United States. Aug 03 2012 05:13. Posts 7472
On August 02 2012 23:16 PoorUser wrote:
same as mid high stakes, mid stakes, low mid stakes, low stakes and microstakes swings. imagine that.
And none of you jump on something like this and get all riled up about it? ...
This is someone who plays higher stakes being condescending to someone who plays lower stakes.
I've taken shit like this for a long time and I don't ever whine or complain or call someone who does this a douche. I take what I can learn from it and I move on.
at least its condescending and informative. if you are playing with so much money that if effects your mood and your play then dont play with that much money. its the same answer for any one at any limit. i faced similar problems at 100nl... 7 years ago so i waited until i had more buyins and then went back and tried again. this is all blatently obvious and you seem to know as much from your last sentence in OP. if its not "your style" to do things that cushion the amount of variance in poker, then deal with the variance in poker?
On August 02 2012 23:16 PoorUser wrote:
same as mid high stakes, mid stakes, low mid stakes, low stakes and microstakes swings. imagine that.
And none of you jump on something like this and get all riled up about it? ...
This is someone who plays higher stakes being condescending to someone who plays lower stakes.
I've taken shit like this for a long time and I don't ever whine or complain or call someone who does this a douche. I take what I can learn from it and I move on.
at least its condescending and informative. if you are playing with so much money that if effects your mood and your play then dont play with that much money. its the same answer for any one at any limit. i faced similar problems at 100nl... 7 years ago so i waited until i had more buyins and then went back and tried again. this is all blatently obvious and you seem to know as much from your last sentence in OP. if its not "your style" to do things that cushion the amount of variance in poker, then deal with the variance in poker?
What you said didn't bother me. I was just making a point that people seem to hold me to a different standard than everybody else for what reason I have no idea. Like, you act condescending and it's fine nobody says anything, I do it and everybody gets all up in arms.
i think the distinction between what pooruser posted and what you posted is hard for most people to explain but luckily i learned it a few years ago from team america so i can explain it well.
every forum has dicks, assholes and pussies im an asshole. people show something all nice and happy and i try to shit all over it. assholes are grumpy and cynical people who just like to show everyone how everything sucks. what pooruser said was an asshole comment.
pussies are the oversensitive people who cry and whine every time a dick or an asshole start fucking or shitting on everything.
then there are dicks. dicks like to try and push people around, exert their alphaness and make others feel like they are inferior. you are a dick.
of course this doesnt encompass everything posted on forums. some people are nice and helpful and cheerful etc. but i think in this debate looking at it as dicks vs asshole is the way to go. and people just react badly to dicks because theyve been dealing with us assholes for so long they know to just ignore our grumpiness.
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On August 02 2012 23:16 PoorUser wrote:
same as mid high stakes, mid stakes, low mid stakes, low stakes and microstakes swings. imagine that.
And none of you jump on something like this and get all riled up about it? ...
This is someone who plays higher stakes being condescending to someone who plays lower stakes.
I've taken shit like this for a long time and I don't ever whine or complain or call someone who does this a douche. I take what I can learn from it and I move on.
at least its condescending and informative. if you are playing with so much money that if effects your mood and your play then dont play with that much money. its the same answer for any one at any limit. i faced similar problems at 100nl... 7 years ago so i waited until i had more buyins and then went back and tried again. this is all blatently obvious and you seem to know as much from your last sentence in OP. if its not "your style" to do things that cushion the amount of variance in poker, then deal with the variance in poker?
What you said didn't bother me. I was just making a point that people seem to hold me to a different standard than everybody else for what reason I have no idea. Like, you act condescending and it's fine nobody says anything, I do it and everybody gets all up in arms.
Judging from your recent posts, I think you're suffering from fallacious thinking that playing high stakes makes you some kind of elitist in this world. I used to suffer from this as well(and still do). Reality is that its far from true and a dangerous way of thinking. Thread title like "dealing with HS swings" can come off attention/approval seeking because most people here understands that stakes of your regular grind has nothing to do with your emotional well being.
Best advice I can give you is try to separate your work and your life. Keep your daily results to your self. You gotta accept the fact that being a poker player is a lonely road. No1 cares that you just won 20k or lost 100k. Some might be interested but they don't really care. If you really want to share your day, get a girlfriend. Good girlfriends would at least act like they care. Far as dealing with swings go, I would recommend checking out Tommy Angelo's work.
On August 02 2012 23:16 PoorUser wrote:
same as mid high stakes, mid stakes, low mid stakes, low stakes and microstakes swings. imagine that.
And none of you jump on something like this and get all riled up about it? ...
This is someone who plays higher stakes being condescending to someone who plays lower stakes.
I've taken shit like this for a long time and I don't ever whine or complain or call someone who does this a douche. I take what I can learn from it and I move on.
at least its condescending and informative. if you are playing with so much money that if effects your mood and your play then dont play with that much money. its the same answer for any one at any limit. i faced similar problems at 100nl... 7 years ago so i waited until i had more buyins and then went back and tried again. this is all blatently obvious and you seem to know as much from your last sentence in OP. if its not "your style" to do things that cushion the amount of variance in poker, then deal with the variance in poker?
What you said didn't bother me. I was just making a point that people seem to hold me to a different standard than everybody else for what reason I have no idea. Like, you act condescending and it's fine nobody says anything, I do it and everybody gets all up in arms.
Judging from your recent posts, I think you're suffering from fallacious thinking that playing high stakes makes you some kind of elitist in this world. I used to suffer from this as well(and still do). Reality is that its far from true and a dangerous way of thinking. Thread title like "dealing with HS swings" can come off attention/approval seeking because most people here understands that stakes of your regular grind has nothing to do with your emotional well being.
Best advice I can give you is try to separate your work and your life. Keep your daily results to your self. You gotta accept the fact that being a poker player is a lonely road. No1 cares that you just won 20k or lost 100k. Some might be interested but they don't really care. If you really want to share your day, get a girlfriend. Good girlfriends would at least act like they care. Far as dealing with swings go, I would recommend checking out Tommy Angelo's work.
I definitely think something is different about it though. I guess what I got from your post is that the difference is in my perception of how I live my life. With higher stakes comes a different lifestyle. At lower stakes, winning and losing 1-5k a day isn't such a big deal because it's on par with what I would need to spend to live my normal life. But when I start to change my lifestyle and realize that I'm able to spend a lot more, losing affects my psyche a ton more because all of the stuff I just thought I was able to buy, after this last downswing, I'm no longer able to afford. And even though I'm still up a lot, I had so much more the days before. It's a very difficult thing to get a hold of unless you treat poker like a video game or you hardly spend any money--OR--like a bunch of guys suggested, play massively overrolled and don't start spending any extra money until you've reached a threshold that makes losing some of it no longer a concern. That's really hard for me to do, not sure I'll ever master that one based on my personality.
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RaiNKhAN United States. Aug 04 2012 01:23. Posts 4080
On August 02 2012 23:16 PoorUser wrote:
same as mid high stakes, mid stakes, low mid stakes, low stakes and microstakes swings. imagine that.
And none of you jump on something like this and get all riled up about it? ...
This is someone who plays higher stakes being condescending to someone who plays lower stakes.
I've taken shit like this for a long time and I don't ever whine or complain or call someone who does this a douche. I take what I can learn from it and I move on.
at least its condescending and informative. if you are playing with so much money that if effects your mood and your play then dont play with that much money. its the same answer for any one at any limit. i faced similar problems at 100nl... 7 years ago so i waited until i had more buyins and then went back and tried again. this is all blatently obvious and you seem to know as much from your last sentence in OP. if its not "your style" to do things that cushion the amount of variance in poker, then deal with the variance in poker?
What you said didn't bother me. I was just making a point that people seem to hold me to a different standard than everybody else for what reason I have no idea. Like, you act condescending and it's fine nobody says anything, I do it and everybody gets all up in arms.
Judging from your recent posts, I think you're suffering from fallacious thinking that playing high stakes makes you some kind of elitist in this world. I used to suffer from this as well(and still do). Reality is that its far from true and a dangerous way of thinking. Thread title like "dealing with HS swings" can come off attention/approval seeking because most people here understands that stakes of your regular grind has nothing to do with your emotional well being.
Best advice I can give you is try to separate your work and your life. Keep your daily results to your self. You gotta accept the fact that being a poker player is a lonely road. No1 cares that you just won 20k or lost 100k. Some might be interested but they don't really care. If you really want to share your day, get a girlfriend. Good girlfriends would at least act like they care. Far as dealing with swings go, I would recommend checking out Tommy Angelo's work.
I like this post a lot.
Marshall, if you think losing 36k was bad then you need to brace yourself because it can happen again very easily in a similar sample size and you won't know what hit you. I think this is all affecting you because it's such a huge rise in the stakes you are used to playing. Again, take what Andrew said to heart I think it's the best advice in here for you
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