UFC on Fox: Shogun vs. Vera

Date: Saturday, August 4th
Preliminary Card (Fuel TV): 16:00 LP.net / 2pm PST / 5pm EST
Main Card Time (FOX): 19:00 LP.net / 5pm PST / 8pm EST
Live Streams: Main card is live on FOX & the Prelims are live on Fuel TV - http://www.vipbox.tv (All MMA events are listed under the UFC button. Press the UFC button and you'll see the event in the list.)





Main Card (FOX)

Mauricio Rua (20-6) vs. Brandon Vera (12-5) (Light Heavyweight)
Lyoto Machida (17-3) vs. Ryan Bader (14-2) (Light Heavyweight)
Joe Lauzon (21-7) vs. Jamie Varner (20-6-1) (Lightweight)
Mike Swick (14-4) vs. DaMarques Johnson (15-10) (Welterweight)

Preliminary Card (Fuel TV)

Cole Miller (18-6) vs. Nam Phan (17-10) (Featherweight)
Phil Davis (9-1) vs. Wagner Prado (8-0) (Light Heavyweight)
Rani Yahya (16-7) vs. Josh Grispi (14-3) (Featherweight)
Oli Thompson (9-3) vs. Phil De Fries (8-1) (Heavyweight)
Michihiro Omigawa (13-11-1) vs. Manvel Gamburyan (11-7) (Featherweight)
Ulysses Gomez (9-2) vs. John Moraga (10-1) (Flyweight)

UFC on FOX 4 Injury List

- Chad Griggs was expected to face Phil Davis at the event. However, Griggs was forced out of the bout with an injury and replaced by promotional newcomer Wagner Prado.
- Brian Stann was expected to headline the event against promotional newcomer Hector Lombard. However, Stann was forced out of the bout citing a shoulder injury.
- Pablo Garza was forced to withdraw from his fight against Josh Grispi due to injury, Grispi will now face Rani Yahya.
- Terry Etim was forced to withdraw from his fight against Joe Lauzon due to injury, Lauzon will now face Jamie Varner.
- Rob Broughton was expected to face Matt Mitrione at the event. However, the bout was scrapped after Broughton pulled out for an undisclosed personal matter.
- Ben Rothwell pulled out of his fight against Travis Browne due to an injured ankle. This led to Browne being removed from the card, while Mike Swick vs. DaMarques Johnson was bumped up to the main card.

Shogun > Vera
Machida > Bader
Varner > Lauzon
Swick > Johnson
Miller > Phan (Miller looked like shit in his last fight, Phan is terrible but usually solid at being a mediocre fighter.)
Davis > Prado (anyone know anything about Prado? 8-0 with 7 wins via KO/TKO, he's on Team Nogueira.)
Yahya > Grispi
Thompson > De Fries
Gamburyan > Omigawa
Gomez > Moraga

any wrestlers in the card? i hope they keep fighting in the UFC

Prado is supposed to be a bad mf but I dunno, hard to say since I haven't seen him fight. If he's really good it might be 3/3 for the Brazilians at light heavyweight. After watching some on youtube I think Davids takes it by some kind of sub, probably a arm triangle or some kind of Kimura/americana/armbarvariation from side control.

Davis's striking improved in every fight, which is good. His fight vs. Rashad was kinda boring since Rashad didn't want to pull the trigger and risk getting clipped in an exchange.

Davis's wrestling is top 2 I think, at Light Heavyweight, and he's strong, which allows him to own most people on the ground when he's on top.

Here are the records of the last 5 guys Prado has beaten:

0-2 | http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Aldo-Sultao-96023
3-3 | http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Wellington-Guilherme-Rodrigues-58978
1-3 | http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Cleber-Tavares-de-Moura-12991
5-9 | http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Fernando-Tressino-26296
7-4 | http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Luis-Eduardo-da-Paixao-70967

Really cool card. Too bad Rothwell got hurt.

During the press conference today, Dana said "the winner of Shogun/Vera gets the next title shot".

On July 30 2012 17:37 PuertoRican wrote: During the press conference today, Dana said "the winner of Shogun/Vera gets the next title shot".

cant put a bet on the big fights, they pay at -300 or worse and well, Shogun is a beat but is famous for his slumps so he is high risk and Machida will win also but he is fighting a wrestler with massive KO power so i do see the upset from time to time, not worth to bet at -310.

Davis which is the safest bet pays at -500 which is absurd and should never be a bet unless its the sickest lock ever and Davis is solid but new, not solid enough for that imo.


toughts?

On July 30 2012 17:46 HaiVan wrote: Show nested quote + On July 30 2012 17:37 PuertoRican wrote: During the press conference today, Dana said "the winner of Shogun/Vera gets the next title shot".

It's a big slap in the face to the true #1 contender, Alexander Gustafsson, who might not be ready in terms of skill, but is on a 5 win streak and finished 4 of those 5 people.

It seems weird since Shogun is coming off a loss, a record of 1-2 in his last 3 fights, one of those fights being a loss to the current champion. If he beats Vera, he would have put himself on a 1 win streak against a guy that's not in the top 15 of the Light Heavyweight divsion.

Also, it's crazy how Vera was on a 3 loss streak and cut from the UFC until Thiago Silva tested positive, which was then turned into a NC. Vera then comes back to beat Eliot Marshall via Decision, then headlines a UFC card vs. Shogun, all while having only 1 win in his last 4 fights.

Hopefully this fight is entertaining, no matter who wins. I mainly want to see some improvement from both fighters.

I still think Vera wins. To me favoring shogun above -300 vs anyone who used to be good/still is decent seems foolish. he got his face caved in twice and that gets to peoples' heads in any form of competition over time. if shogun loses this fight you will never be able to capitalize on these odds vs him ever again b/c it will label him as a burnout so hell be like -135 and shit vs randoms and u cant make a big score anymore on +250 or > lines

In terms of value I think this goes to Vera and I would believe the line closer to the fight will reflect it in his favor

Dana White video blog day 1.

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haha, nice hype video for Shogun. Suck a dick Rampage.

vera is garbage. not even broken down shogun will lose to him.

vera/shogun getting title shot is obviously a crock of shit. neither were competitive with jones first time around and there are more deserving people, namely gustaffson, machida (competitive with jones first fight), glover teixiera (should he beat rampage) and anderson (pipe dream that would never happen). other than those 4 and hendo everyone else is at least 2 fights away from a title shot.

just a fun little fact, the co main and main events have 4 light heavyweights who were all finished by jones in the past 2 years.

On July 31 2012 12:41 Daut wrote: just a fun little fact, the co main and main events have 4 light heavyweights who were all finished by jones in the past 2 years.

Vera +301/Shogun -345 right now on pinnacle. does it close higher or lower?

Short story about Prado. He got his car transformed in a Brazilian TV show like Discovery's Overhaulin'. During the show he told the host that he was an MMA fighter. The host was friends with Minotauro and bla bla bla...

I don't know anything about him apart from that. Never saw him fight.

Jones has to fight someone. Gustafsson's best win by far is Thiago Silva, and Machida just lost to Jones in his last fight. There's really nobody who deserves a title shot right now.

gustaffsson would be more deserving of a title shot than thales leites, patrick cote, demian maia, dan hardy, mark hominick or matt serra were.

and machida may look insanely impressive against bader saturday. giving him a title shot after a huge dominating win would be fine imo.

also jones isnt fighting hendo til september. if glover teixeira beats rampage around then he would be fine to get one as well

cormier hurry up and knock mir out.

On July 31 2012 13:21 Raidern wrote: Short story about Prado. He got his car transformed in a Brazilian TV show like Discovery's Overhaulin'. During the show he told the host that he was an MMA fighter. The host was friends with Minotauro and bla bla bla... I don't know anything about him apart from that. Never saw him fight.

plus, team nogueira sucks nowaydays
they took other guy who was in the Big Brother Brasil
the only info they had was that the guy was a random muai thay teacher somewhere and they took the guy to train with them, wtf ?