UFC on Fox: Shogun vs. Vera - Page 6

i really hope they give the title shot to machida he deserves it!

So sad that shogun has a weak cardio, he could be really good if he didn't gas so fast!

- Dana just said that Machida gets the winner of Jones/Henderson.

$50,000 for each bonus

Knockout of the Night: Mike Swick
Submission of the Night: Joe Lauzon
Fight of the Night: Joe Lauzon vs. Jamie Varner

Rua is too old school, time to retire.

So fucking awkward for the UFC to now have two divisions locked up in public uninterest,
both the Silva and Jones have ruined the division's competitiveness.

Who actually wants to pay to see Jones completely smash Machida 3 fights after he completely dominated him?

Who really believes that a 60 year old dude that hasn't improved in 10 years is now, 9 months later,
any more of a challenge for a much-faster-improving Jones than last time?

Crazy awkward for the UFC.

Is jon jones really unbeatable or are there just too few people who are both WILLING to fight / incapable of beating him?

its just like boxing. only problem is they run it like its the WWE that we get to see uber exciting fights each month and championship fights always have that drama element. this is why boxing critics say that the UFC shows way too many PPVs.

60 year old? What in the world are you talking about taco? Machida is the one guy in that division who has the tools to beat Jones.

that was fucking sad to watch

no longer a shogun fan

On August 04 2012 22:56 RaiNKhAN wrote: Is jon jones really unbeatable or are there just too few people who are both WILLING to fight / incapable of beating him?

the only person capable of "beating" jones is machida. if machida fought a 100% perfect fight and made no mistakes he could win 3 rounds off jones. thats pretty unlikely but in the realm of possibility. sure jones is still -400 or -500 against him, but its the only rematch i care to see jones have at 205 before moving up.

nobody else at 205 can do that. there are a few guys like hendo who could get really lucky and finish him but flash KO type stuff like that is just an outlier. nobody else is capable of fighting with him

Goddamit I would pay premium to see Silva vs Jones. Fuck hendo. Machida will make me watch it for free since he's a nit and evades strikes so it'll probably be worth watching.
Jones is just way to strong in the clinch or ground the only way is to keep it standing for it to be entertaining (then you have to face his insane reach and creative striking) heh
Silva is just so good at standup no living human can beat him currently in that department.

On August 04 2012 23:24 SleepyHead wrote: 60 year old? What in the world are you talking about taco? Machida is the one guy in that division who has the tools to beat Jones.

I don't think it's unreasonable to exaggerate so heavily when the age difference is what, 9 years?

When most fighters' careers are only slightly longer than that, and he already outskills him?

I think Gustafsson has more of a chance and Hendo, and I don't think he has much of a chance.

Argument would go: Potentially as much or at least close to as much power, better reach, better size and probably at a better age.

That said Hendo has more of an X factor in his "auro" or whatever. Dude KTFO Fedor for god's sake.

i dont think white guys will have a chance in MMA championships in general as the years progress. it's going to be lots of black guys given the opportunity to wrestle in college or strikers from brazil. dumb statement but if I'm just being honest...

On August 05 2012 02:49 whamm! wrote: i dont think white guys will have a chance in MMA championships in general as the years progress. it's going to be lots of black guys given the opportunity to wrestle in college or strikers from brazil. dumb statement but if I'm just being honest...

We definitely won't see much of this retarded white low-skill "tough guy" build that some fighters
have gone for (Brandon Vera, Roy Nelson, Heath Herring, Matt Hamill, Tim Boetsch etc).
Relying on your chin, toughness and heart will simply stop working (At least for the white guys).

Not hating with the 'low-skill' description but tbh none of these guys is even decently well rounded.

if you count dominick cruz as non-white then you are right whamm

Wasn't Herring pretty good?

ok brown black. cruz is like cruz right? lol

On August 05 2012 06:03 DustySwedeDude wrote: Wasn't Herring pretty good?

Lolwtf no.

He just barely managed to scrape together some success with the aforementioned method.

On August 05 2012 00:07 whamm! wrote: Goddamit I would pay premium to see Silva vs Jones. Fuck hendo. Machida will make me watch it for free since he's a nit and evades strikes so it'll probably be worth watching. Jones is just way to strong in the clinch or ground the only way is to keep it standing for it to be entertaining (then you have to face his insane reach and creative striking) heh Silva is just so good at standup no living human can beat him currently in that department.

I think its way more likely to see a jones vs cigano than jones vs silva

dos santos would absolutely murder jon jones

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