$10/$20 PLO w Middle Set - Deeeep :( - Page 2

On July 28 2012 14:56 JonnyCosMo wrote: Show nested quote + On July 28 2012 09:33 Fayth wrote: can u really afford playing PLO 10k deep? -.- This isn't my hand, I usually play PLO a lot shorter than NL since Im still learning.

u have 2nd nuts, go all in, duh.

Given description I shove here.

On July 28 2012 16:05 locoo wrote: it's an easy ship or at least call, hero lead/called, I think that was a mistake I'd rather c/raise or c/c that flop... if you aren't even gonna play it for stacks and a shiiiit load of turns are bad for you what are you really acomplishing by leading? im noob omaha

Yeah I stink at plo but this makes sense to me, if we dont want to get it in on a brick turn what are we lead/calling the flop for.

its a 4 way pot and we are going with our hand vs limpers who are presumably shorter. given how drawy the board is it will often check around since the limpers will probably look to check raise strong hands vs the preflop raiser and not bet themselves so leading into them is better cause they will probably put in a raise with any 77, lots of QT and all their draws and the strong player wont just bet any 4 in position 4 way on this board cause he knows it probably hit someone. and against the strong player check raising creates a nightmare scenario this deep. leading is completely fine even if we dont want to felt our hand vs the reg for 500x.

i think lead/folding the flop vs him is probably the play here in hindsight. people just dont look at someone who is a NL player and try to get them to fold monsters in omaha. and the note that he has big hands when big money starts going in leads me to believe hes very strong here. people who are 500bb deep and know how to play deep know what happens when you raise a QT7hh board in PLO. him being gambley means he has draws here too, but the draws he has are flipping or slight favorites vs us. hes not gonna overvalue some marginal made hand like naked 77 here. calling the flop raise is probably a mistake like mcnasty said

def prefer checking this flop, just have more control over the reaction of other players, typically one of the shorter stacks leads and you can really find out what type of hand villan has. alternatively, it gets checked around to villan who makes a bet, we can call and get one of the other stacks to make a move and gaining a lot more information on their ranges..

On July 31 2012 13:16 casinocasino wrote: def prefer checking this flop, just have more control over the reaction of other players, typically one of the shorter stacks leads and you can really find out what type of hand villan has. alternatively, it gets checked around to villan who makes a bet, we can call and get one of the other stacks to make a move and gaining a lot more information on their ranges..

I like checking flop here as well 4way, sure sucks if it gets checked around but really anyone with a clue is not jamming over our lead without ranges that have good equity vs our hand(naked mid set with str8 blockers). I like checking here and evaluating the flop action before committing any of my stack to the pot.

I honestly don't mind it getting checked around either.

On August 02 2012 02:09 kaboom wrote: Show nested quote + On July 31 2012 13:16 casinocasino wrote: def prefer checking this flop, just have more control over the reaction of other players, typically one of the shorter stacks leads and you can really find out what type of hand villan has. alternatively, it gets checked around to villan who makes a bet, we can call and get one of the other stacks to make a move and gaining a lot more information on their ranges.. I like checking flop here as well 4way, sure sucks if it gets checked around but really anyone with a clue is not jamming over our lead without ranges that have good equity vs our hand(naked mid set with str8 blockers). I like checking here and evaluating the flop action before committing any of my stack to the pot. I honestly don't mind it getting checked around either.

How don't you mind getting it checked around?

On August 03 2012 03:50 JonnyCosMo wrote: Show nested quote + On August 02 2012 02:09 kaboom wrote:   On July 31 2012 13:16 casinocasino wrote: def prefer checking this flop, just have more control over the reaction of other players, typically one of the shorter stacks leads and you can really find out what type of hand villan has. alternatively, it gets checked around to villan who makes a bet, we can call and get one of the other stacks to make a move and gaining a lot more information on their ranges.. I like checking flop here as well 4way, sure sucks if it gets checked around but really anyone with a clue is not jamming over our lead without ranges that have good equity vs our hand(naked mid set with str8 blockers). I like checking here and evaluating the flop action before committing any of my stack to the pot. I honestly don't mind it getting checked around either. How don't you mind getting it checked around?

we have the worst position and slightly more than half the deck is potentially bad for us, I would prefer to play a small pot instead of building possibly a monster pot OOP.

it's omaha, there's still turn and river to play.

cc flop
plo deep stack oop is survival of the nittiest

On August 04 2012 05:26 MiPwnYa wrote: cc flop plo deep stack oop is survival of the nittiest

lol a couple people said this exact thing to me.

stupid game this PLO is

Results?

Guy folded.

Didn't get to see other dude's hand.

On August 04 2012 05:26 MiPwnYa wrote: cc flop plo deep stack oop is survival of the nittiest

true
+1 to check call

c/c flop is pretty good especially if he is v aggr. i think i 3b pre tho