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longple    Sweden. Jul 20 2012 06:37. Posts 4472

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetec...rains-robot-bodies.html#ixzz218zkLD9A

crazy shit is going down

saw documentary some time ago, think it was this one http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1049412/ when Raymond Kurzweil talks about how sure he is man will merge with machine within 30 years


in before skynet takes over world and arnold kills us all

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Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Jul 20 2012 06:39. Posts 9634

Immortality would suck


dnagardi   Hungary. Jul 20 2012 06:58. Posts 1779

i dont see how can this work
1. the brain is an organic matter it decays overtime so putting into a metal frame wont save u
2. i dont believe you can put ones consciousness into a harddrive


Loco   Canada. Jul 20 2012 07:12. Posts 21022


  On July 20 2012 05:39 Spitfiree wrote:
Immortality would suck



this

I saw the documentary too, it's interesting but technology won't be our savior.

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longple    Sweden. Jul 20 2012 07:17. Posts 4472

yea to me it feels like they should just stay out of this one

this is just scary imo


RaiNKhAN    United States. Jul 20 2012 07:28. Posts 4080

maybe expand the length of your life but not forever obv. would be funny that even after an extra 300 years if someone was still bumhunting cash games and waiting for full tilt money instead of accomplishing sick things

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greenbastard   Sweden. Jul 20 2012 08:09. Posts 178

^ lol


taco   Iceland. Jul 20 2012 08:20. Posts 1793

"‘I understand these are some very big challenges for scientists,’ Itskov says. ‘But I believe in something you call ‘The American Dream.’ If you put all your energy and time into something, you can make it a reality."

Sick hustler trying to get funding from rich people by namedropping the American dream?


Achoo   Canada. Jul 20 2012 08:46. Posts 1454

I'd rather be dead than to be immortal.

Odds are exactly 50%: it either happens or not 

CrownRoyal   United States. Jul 20 2012 08:47. Posts 11386

do you think i could enjoy a cigarette if i was a robot?

WHAT IS THIS 

the cleaner   Germany. Jul 20 2012 08:55. Posts 3014

i saw the documentary transcendent man too, and it seems logical to me. i believe that technology will overtake mankind and there is no way around it.

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Arirang   Canada. Jul 20 2012 09:10. Posts 1673

Rather one likes it or not, this sort of shit is gonna get researched. The powerful and the rich had always wanted to live forever, so it's a field of research that will get funded.

With enough time, everything that we imagine is probably possible? Need more Great Scientists, they give 1 turn research A_A.


2c0ntent   Egypt. Jul 20 2012 09:11. Posts 1387

sounds like a scammer

also the american dream, "life, liberty, the pursuit of happiness, and immortality"


  On July 20 2012 08:10 Arirang wrote:
Rather one likes it or not, this sort of shit is gonna get researched. The powerful and the rich had always wanted to live forever, so it's a field of research that will get funded.

With enough time, everything that we imagine is probably possible? Need more Great Scientists, they give 1 turn research A_A.



lol civilization rapes so many hours of life so quickly..

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longple    Sweden. Jul 20 2012 09:25. Posts 4472


  On July 20 2012 07:55 the cleaner wrote:
i saw the documentary transcendent man too




ah yea thats the one i saw i think, not the one i posted in op

Fucking insane times we live in, sick rail

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goose58   United States. Jul 20 2012 09:25. Posts 871

Mad scientists lol.


Fudyann   Netherlands. Jul 20 2012 09:44. Posts 704

Assuming _all_ the problems with aging, including reduced mental capacity, are solved, not having to die if you don't want to would be super awesome.


dogmeat   Czech Republic. Jul 20 2012 09:55. Posts 6374


  On July 20 2012 08:44 Fudyann wrote:
not having to die if you don't want to would be super awesome.



ban baal 

2c0ntent   Egypt. Jul 20 2012 10:12. Posts 1387


  On July 20 2012 08:25 longple wrote:
Show nested quote +




ah yea thats the one i saw i think, not the one i posted in op

Fucking insane times we live in, sick rail


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Smuft   Canada. Jul 20 2012 10:19. Posts 633

Elky is in love with these types of ideas; immortality and Ray's predictions in general. He's at a longevity clinic in Colorado right now getting tested for anything that might upset his plans to "live forever".


Loco   Canada. Jul 20 2012 10:52. Posts 21022

The real question is, do these people really like life that much or are they afraid of dying that much?

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Mariuslol   Norway. Jul 20 2012 11:53. Posts 4742


Don't really get most of this stuff, but I've heard it over and over again that we kinda go through our bodies in a 7 year period, so when we eat, move around etc, we "shed" the old us with new. If that's true, then it seems plausable to find some solution so we don't age and die. If we can have that process going, without the decay.


TheHuHu3   United States. Jul 20 2012 12:34. Posts 5544

Once everyone on this planet dies we reincarnate as another person on another earth in a parallel universe. You will be reborn the same time you die (day, month, year) and retain all the knowledge you've acquired up to your death. You will be the only person on this planet that has this fortunate circumstance; everyone else will get their own planet.

TheHuHu4 coming soon :) 

Expiate   Bulgaria. Jul 20 2012 12:50. Posts 236

Living forever in one form would be so boring, and if proton decay exists might not be possible at all.


Funktion   Australia. Jul 20 2012 13:05. Posts 1638

Everyone saying immortality would be boring are probably just boring people.

The article is lol retarded, 10 years...good luck rusky. Probably won't even come close to stage one in my life time.


GiYoM   Korea (South). Jul 20 2012 13:51. Posts 455

Actually most futurists predictions are about the same. Shit starts to get real in 10 years


Floofy   Canada. Jul 20 2012 14:06. Posts 8708

its not that living forever is boring, its more that living forever AS A ROBOT might be boring. No fucking, no eating, no drinking, no sports, etc. The only thing we might be able to do is like, play games...

Also i have a weird question... what if they transfered our consciousness into a robot (not the brain). would we still be "alive". Guess not...

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FarmMylife   Canada. Jul 20 2012 14:17. Posts 111

I am not really interested in being a robot or a hologram forever, living forever in my actual body I would want to do but like how enjoyable can sex be as a hologram or a robot.


Funktion   Australia. Jul 20 2012 18:42. Posts 1638

We will see in 10 years but my money is on this won't be happening. These predictions get made all the time and rarely materialise. I know in the late 80's/early 90's that by now everyone was meant to be disease free, living on the moon and getting around in their flying cars. Didn't happen. I'd argue that even a hover board is easier to invent than this shit and that hasn't happened either. No doubt these sorts of predictions have been going on through time with the usual 'oh but now we really are close or have the technology'.


  ‘I understand these are some very big challenges for scientists,’ Itskov says. ‘But I believe in something you call ‘The American Dream.’ If you put all your energy and time into something, you can make it a reality.


Sounds legit. BRB going to put all my time and energy into time travel or a faster than light speed ship.


cariadon   Estonia. Jul 20 2012 18:55. Posts 4019

At first i thought Tutz made this, surprised to see longple.
Guy is just scamming billionaires to freeroll life.
Tl:dr - not happening.


Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Jul 20 2012 19:15. Posts 9634


  On July 20 2012 08:55 dogmeat wrote:
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actually no it would fuck up the world


longple    Sweden. Jul 20 2012 19:23. Posts 4472

not sure what to belive really, dont think any of us have much of a clue really science wise

but its pretty interesting and scary stuff imo


uiCk   Canada. Jul 20 2012 19:30. Posts 3521


  On July 20 2012 09:52 Loco wrote:
The real question is, do these people really like life that much or are they afraid of dying that much?


Im sure most people who want immortality is because they are afraid of dying. But if u are in science, chances are you are doing it as something to archive. IMO I'm not afraid of dying but am heavily pro and think that immortality is inevitable at one point unless human species extinctns or degresses . The later I actually think might actually be true

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casinocasino   Canada. Jul 20 2012 20:08. Posts 3347

research something about monkey head transplant.. guy was trying to switch heads from one monkey to the next, it was still paralyzed, but if they find a way to cure paralysis then they can have people living multiple lifetimes.

I think this idea stems from fallout where the robots walking around with a human brain shooting lasers


Silver_nz   New Zealand. Jul 20 2012 20:36. Posts 5647



Funktion   Australia. Jul 20 2012 21:03. Posts 1638


  On July 20 2012 19:08 casinocasino wrote:
research something about monkey head transplant.. guy was trying to switch heads from one monkey to the next, it was still paralyzed, but if they find a way to cure paralysis then they can have people living multiple lifetimes.

I think this idea stems from fallout where the robots walking around with a human brain shooting lasers


First done 40 years ago and hasn't really made progress other than to keep blood going to it.


collegesucks   United States. Jul 20 2012 22:08. Posts 5780


Expiate   Bulgaria. Jul 21 2012 03:59. Posts 236

Forget this with transferring the consciousness, neuroscientists are ages away from solving it, like they are in the "stone age". Let's say in 100 years rich people will be able to pay for stopping aging/becoming a robot, so what? You must beat evolution, because in 10k years you'll feel like a retard. If you manage to do this, you'll still have to be sick bloody patient for the time when brain will be solved and you will be able to acquire new senses like sensing electricity or whatever you desire.


iRiis   United Kingdom. Jul 21 2012 10:20. Posts 71


  On July 20 2012 07:46 Achoo wrote:
I'd rather be dead than to be immortal.



Shit life?

Damn I'd take immortality ezpz.


Liquid`Drone   Norway. Jul 21 2012 19:13. Posts 3096

the idea that immortality, at least some form of it, might be achievable through our lifetime, is super interesting. but also scary - the implications for our society are impossible to predict.

Nobody wants to die, but for the entirety of human civilization, we have, and everything is organized in accordance with this fact. People oftentimes motivate themselves explicitly with statements such as YOLO - but that's not really appliccable if that life lasts a million years. So then, say you're kinda getting like, the potential benefits of less hastyness (in accordance to all fantasy lore ever, the immortality of the elves is the main component in what makes them different and superior to mankind!!), but the negative(?) of lacking motivation/increased hedonism. And then you're getting the temporary extra-motivational boost to people who want to pursue quick sudden wealth to be among the first to be granted immortality, and stuff is even more cutthroat for a while. or whatever - predicting how stuff is gonna turn out is prolly harder than predicting when or if the technological singularity occurs.

The main potential problem though, is how immortality will initially be granted to the people who already control the power-structures of the world. The powerful often want to maintain the status quo (which is understandable), and they also have the power to do so. The fact is, most really powerful are toppled by their death. If that doesn't happen, what then? If immortality was achieved for the top dogs of society 300 years ago, would any of the waves of revolutions have happened? Slavery? Women's suffrage? Or universal male suffrage? It's like, immortality could potentially advance "some" individuals or groups of individuals to a point where they're essentially part of a higher consciousness than man or whatnot, but I think it'd be compleetely disruptive for well, social mobility.

You're also not gonna get any Buffets who accumulate vast vast wealth and who then donate 99% of it at death.

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