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Syllogism   New Zealand. Jul 20 2012 06:23. Posts 214

Mass Shooting At Aurora, Colorado Midnight Showing Of ‘Batman Dark Knight Rises’ – 14 Estimated Deaths, Including A Baby Shot At Point Blank Range


http://www.inquisitr.com/280857/mass-...ing-a-baby-shot-at-point-blank-range/


http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/articles/365...n-colorado-shooting.htm#ixzz219kh7GN4


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-18921492

At least 14 people have been killed in a shooting at a Batman film premiere in the US city of Denver, police say. About 50 people have been injured in the incident at the cinema complex in the suburb of Aurora.

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handbanana21   United States. Jul 20 2012 07:05. Posts 3037

sigh.. what a mess.


BILAT_POWER!!!   Philippines. Jul 20 2012 07:23. Posts 1525

Was the shooter wearing a mask with little bat ears or a gas mask?


RaiNKhAN    United States. Jul 20 2012 07:35. Posts 4080

That is so ridiculous. Colorado seems so safe from an outside perspective and from the times I've been there, but then you see this, and the Columbine incident as well and you realize that anything can happen anywhere. I read about a shooting in Toronto earlier too in Danzig. Very scary

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Achoo   Canada. Jul 20 2012 08:06. Posts 1454

2d amendment ftw !

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dogmeat   Czech Republic. Jul 20 2012 08:15. Posts 6374


  On July 20 2012 07:06 Achoo wrote:
2d amendment ftw !



colorado has the most strict laws i think

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Achoo   Canada. Jul 20 2012 08:23. Posts 1454

You mean you can't buy an ak-47 in your local shop center ? wtf you guys are letting your civil liberties go bit by bit

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Zep   United States. Jul 20 2012 08:23. Posts 2292


  On July 20 2012 07:15 dogmeat wrote:
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colorado has the most strict laws i think

Yes. Not NY, MA, or DC. Definitely Colorado.

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daysare   Poland. Jul 20 2012 08:23. Posts 670

ultimate argument for torrenting shit


dnagardi   Hungary. Jul 20 2012 08:25. Posts 1779

is this a deliberate advertising for the movie?
or the reptilian operation has begun

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qwerty67890   New Zealand. Jul 20 2012 09:11. Posts 14026

just enjoying a film at my local cinema
glad I'm not American.


2c0ntent   Egypt. Jul 20 2012 09:25. Posts 1387

damn I went and grabbed my cellphone like holy shit to call my friend in aurora, but then I noticed it said colorado rather than illinois

phew

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qwerty67890   New Zealand. Jul 20 2012 09:27. Posts 14026


  On July 20 2012 08:25 2c0ntent wrote:
damn I went and grabbed my cellphone like holy shit to call my friend in aurora, but then I noticed it said colorado rather than illinois

phew



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BILAT_POWER!!!   Philippines. Jul 20 2012 10:08. Posts 1525

LOL


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Carreira   Peru. Jul 20 2012 13:02. Posts 154

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blackjacki2   United States. Jul 20 2012 13:02. Posts 2582

the shooter looks a bit like Tom Dwan in this pic


NotSorry   United States. Jul 20 2012 13:03. Posts 2603

kid looks bat shit crazy

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bigredhoss   Cook Islands. Jul 20 2012 13:23. Posts 8649

woww is that really the killer? jfc...

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Highcard   Canada. Jul 20 2012 13:38. Posts 5428

the picture looks normal

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SleepyHead   . Jul 20 2012 13:48. Posts 881

According to the article he owned the gun illegally.

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Rapoza   Brasil. Jul 20 2012 13:54. Posts 1612

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Arirang   Canada. Jul 20 2012 14:03. Posts 1673

All of this shit is in poor taste of white people going "aww this is awful". But this is legit funny.

http://news.ca.msn.com/top-stories/de...-missed-toronto-eaton-centre-shooting


Arirang   Canada. Jul 20 2012 14:05. Posts 1673


  On July 20 2012 12:38 Highcard wrote:
the picture looks normal


It's not, that's a very awkward smile. All that is, is of a person who's trying to smile. He's lifting his eyebrows and making a smile, but his eyes aren't squinted like a real smile... Usually that's a recipe for a creepy/akward smile.


MathIsGreat   . Jul 20 2012 14:10. Posts 13

Where was batman at when you needed him?


bigredhoss   Cook Islands. Jul 20 2012 14:11. Posts 8649


  On July 20 2012 12:38 Highcard wrote:
the picture looks normal



for a serial killer maybe

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blackjacki2   United States. Jul 20 2012 14:19. Posts 2582


  On July 20 2012 13:03 Arirang wrote:
All of this shit is in poor taste of white people going "aww this is awful". But this is legit funny.

http://news.ca.msn.com/top-stories/de...-missed-toronto-eaton-centre-shooting



Legit funny? wtf is wrong with you


patti   United States. Jul 20 2012 14:39. Posts 550

life is such a joke sometimes, could have been any one of us


humPah   Finland. Jul 20 2012 14:51. Posts 1544


  On July 20 2012 13:03 Arirang wrote:
All of this shit is in poor taste of white people going "aww this is awful". But this is legit funny.

http://news.ca.msn.com/top-stories/de...-missed-toronto-eaton-centre-shooting



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LikeASet   United States. Jul 20 2012 15:00. Posts 2113

Picture is normal, if this incident never happened and then someone showed you his picture, you wouldn't think anything unusual about it. It's people like this killer that make we wish our country didn't have the death penalty but instead had some system where all the most dangerous criminals get dropped off by helicopter onto a secluded island where they have to fend for themselves. Then you can just have the navy patrol around the island ready to shoot down anyone that tries to escape by makeshift raft.


Arirang   Canada. Jul 20 2012 15:02. Posts 1673


  On July 20 2012 12:54 Rapoza wrote:
just wonder how did he get that stuff


Getting gun in North America is not that hard.


nolan   Ireland. Jul 20 2012 15:08. Posts 6205


  On July 20 2012 14:02 Arirang wrote:
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Getting gun in North America is not that hard.


getting a gun in most states in north america requires having identification, being 18+, and not being a registered felon.

that's pretty much all it takes to get any weapon that isn't an automatic.

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disCord   United States. Jul 20 2012 15:23. Posts 1005

dude, i knew that kid in high school, wtf...


blackjacki2   United States. Jul 20 2012 16:14. Posts 2582


  On July 20 2012 14:23 disCord wrote:
dude, i knew that kid in high school, wtf...



go on...


PuertoRican   United States. Jul 20 2012 16:17. Posts 13257

The shooter looks like a lesbian attending a wedding.

The only masculine thing about him in that pic is his 80s style haircut.

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bigredhoss   Cook Islands. Jul 20 2012 23:26. Posts 8649


  On July 20 2012 14:00 LikeASet wrote:
Picture is normal, if this incident never happened and then someone showed you his picture, you wouldn't think anything unusual about it.



wrong, pretty sure i would still think he's crazy looking.

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LikeASet   United States. Jul 21 2012 00:06. Posts 2113

Preeety sure if the picture wasn't so blown up and you saw it in a year book or something you wouldn't think anything of it. If anything, I could understand someone saying that the guy is not photogenic, but "crazy" looking? I think that's an overstatement. He's actually a good looking fellow, despite the fact that he's an evil monster.


NotSorry   United States. Jul 21 2012 00:29. Posts 2603


  On July 20 2012 14:08 nolan wrote:
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getting a gun in most states in north america requires having identification, being 18+, and not being a registered felon.

that's pretty much all it takes to get any weapon that isn't an automatic.

Here in Cali I can go to the corner and pick up a scratched small hand gun for $50-100. Something along the lines of an ak-47/AR-15 would obviously require a few phone calls and bit more money but still very doable.


As for the picture, just look at the eyes, don't even focus the on the face. Kid has the look of the guy who just killed 2people in their bedroom to steal their handgun to sell it to me for $50-100 on the corner.

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El_Tanque   United States. Jul 21 2012 01:31. Posts 362

its not hard, you can even go to a business that sells guns and just find a shady dealer.

i mean ffs, in men in black they bought alien guns in NYC... easy.


LikeASet   United States. Jul 21 2012 01:43. Posts 2113

Preeety sure if the picture wasn't so blown up and you saw it in a year book or something you wouldn't think anything of it. If anything, I could understand someone saying that the guy is not photogenic, but "crazy" looking? I think that's an overstatement. He's actually a good looking fellow, despite the fact that he's an evil monster.


Rapoza   Brasil. Jul 21 2012 01:54. Posts 1612

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NotSorry   United States. Jul 21 2012 02:19. Posts 2603

explosives/tear gas is very easy to make at home with shit you can pick up at walmart, gas masks and bulletproof vests are solid with no background checks of even id needed in many stores that handle hunting/camping supplies

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bigredhoss   Cook Islands. Jul 21 2012 02:22. Posts 8649


  On July 20 2012 23:06 LikeASet wrote:
Preeety sure if the picture wasn't so blown up and you saw it in a year book or something you wouldn't think anything of it. If anything, I could understand someone saying that the guy is not photogenic, but "crazy" looking? I think that's an overstatement. He's actually a good looking fellow, despite the fact that he's an evil monster.



it's nothing to do with looking good or bad, it's just his expression seems kinda creepy/unnatural to me, basically what arirang described. i didn't mean that he looks literally certifiably insane from that one picture, just a v intense pose for a yearbook photo (or anything imo, really).

if it was 1 of like 30 pictures on a yearbook page it probably wouldn't stand out to me just glancing at it, but if someone pointed it out and said "look at that dude" and i focused on it i would think he looks kinda nutty, even without knowing about this incident.

not like i would think he's crazy enough to do something like this just from the photo, but more like i would think he's super high-strung and/or needs to get on/off some meds, etc. kind of crazy

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Rapoza   Brasil. Jul 21 2012 02:22. Posts 1612

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NotSorry   United States. Jul 21 2012 02:41. Posts 2603


  On July 21 2012 01:22 Rapoza wrote:
ty notsorry

np, it's kind of scary when you think about just how easy it is to get/make this kind of stuff

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casinocasino   Canada. Jul 21 2012 03:16. Posts 3347

they should just take all those facing the death penalty and throw them off a plane


qwerty67890   New Zealand. Jul 21 2012 03:17. Posts 14026

hes got those hollow emotionless eyes like Dahmer


egood   United States. Jul 21 2012 04:18. Posts 1883

inc metal detectors in movie theatres.


RaiNKhAN    United States. Jul 21 2012 04:25. Posts 4080


  On July 21 2012 03:18 egood wrote:
inc 15 year old ushers in movie theatres.

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waga   United Kingdom. Jul 21 2012 08:23. Posts 2375

Monsters have to look like monsters.
The world would be too scary if serial killers look like an average joe !!!

There is nothing wrong with his face , stop being pussies.


disCord   United States. Jul 21 2012 12:29. Posts 1005


  On July 20 2012 15:14 blackjacki2 wrote:
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go on...
I knew him for 3 years. He was a grade below me, in my soccer team, both in school and in a league outside of it. I know that he was a smart kid, since he took multiple college level courses before graduating. The main reason why this surprises me so much is that he was very soft spoken and I never really saw him angry. The vast majority of the time he was smiling from ear to ear. To be fair, I wasn't in touch with him after I graduated, but this is still a huge shock to me.


NMcNasty    United States. Jul 21 2012 12:51. Posts 2041


  On July 21 2012 11:29 disCord wrote:
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The main reason why this surprises me so much is that he was very soft spoken and I never really saw him angry. The vast majority of the time he was smiling from ear to ear.



Wtf, isn't that like the exact standard psycho profile?


blackjacki2   United States. Jul 21 2012 13:14. Posts 2582


  On July 21 2012 11:51 NMcNasty wrote:
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Wtf, isn't that like the exact standard psycho profile?



yeah, ppl said the same about the virginia tech shooter. Being shy and soft spoken leads to social isolation and it's usually the "loners" that do stuff like this.


YoMeR   United States. Jul 21 2012 17:08. Posts 12438

fucking tragic...rip ;(

goddamn this isn't the 3rd world wtf how are all these mass killings happening so often here.

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napalm   Poland. Jul 21 2012 17:38. Posts 171

lol 3rd worlds are better in that regard

how are they gonna kill 15 ppl with stones

and no cinemas:D


NotSorry   United States. Jul 21 2012 19:54. Posts 2603

Who needs stones when they all have shoulder mounted rocket launchers thanks to HSBC.

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Highcard   Canada. Jul 21 2012 20:02. Posts 5428


  On July 20 2012 13:03 Arirang wrote:
All of this shit is in poor taste of white people going "aww this is awful". But this is legit funny.

http://news.ca.msn.com/top-stories/de...-missed-toronto-eaton-centre-shooting



Ban asap wtf

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El_Tanque   United States. Jul 22 2012 16:24. Posts 362


  On July 21 2012 12:14 blackjacki2 wrote:
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yeah, ppl said the same about the virginia tech shooter. Being shy and soft spoken leads to social isolation and it's usually the "loners" that do stuff like this.



fucking introverts...


Stroggoz   New Zealand. Jul 23 2012 01:43. Posts 5365


  On July 21 2012 11:51 NMcNasty wrote:
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Wtf, isn't that like the exact standard psycho profile?



sounds like the profile for a standard shy person or maybe an introvert, which is a fair amount of the human population. I fit that description quite well and i am no axe murderer.

most psychopaths are the opposite, according to this checklist. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hare_Psychopathy_Checklist

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BILAT_POWER!!!   Philippines. Jul 23 2012 02:16. Posts 1525


  On July 21 2012 02:17 byrnesam wrote:
hes got those hollow emotionless eyes like Dahmer




He should have joined the KKK. At least have a 'cause'.

And what is it with Colorado?


NotSorry   United States. Jul 23 2012 02:25. Posts 2603

Damn going off that check list I should be out killing people right now...

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BILAT_POWER!!!   Philippines. Jul 23 2012 02:30. Posts 1525

LOL. Me too!!!


BILAT_POWER!!!   Philippines. Jul 23 2012 02:31. Posts 1525

Honestly, I think Im sick in the head. Whamm knows this. Lololol


chickin   United States. Jul 23 2012 05:55. Posts 5


Poll: Would you rather be the dead, the injured, or the movie shooter?
(Vote): The dead
(Vote): The injured
(Vote): The movie shooter

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BILAT_POWER!!!   Philippines. Jul 23 2012 06:10. Posts 1525

Movie shooter. I shoot them for watching that crap.

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chickin   United States. Jul 23 2012 12:28. Posts 5

I stand in judgement of the shooter because he didn't wear a batman costume or a bane mask.
He didn't even speak any words before he just started shooting.
Man was a coward and came to the theatre not even in a batman villain character despite planning the attack for months.
Dressed in full riot gear vs unarmed civilians that's just being scared.
He could of brought a microphone and introduced himself as Simon and made everyone do what Simon says and people would be confused they might think its all an act until he tells people get naked and they don't so he starts blazing.
He could of demanded orgy sex of the hostages. He had the power of a school teacher over children and he didn't even give any orders. He didn't have any training tho.
How you going to go to the theatre, get on stage, be too afraid to introduce yourself, but not afraid to mutha fuckin kill people?

Overall, I feel sorry for the shooter cause he just wasted a once in a life time opportunity to play the crowd.

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 Last edit: 23/07/2012 18:09

tapatapaz   Brasil. Jul 23 2012 12:35. Posts 1279

wat. future shooter alert

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tapatapaz   Brasil. Jul 23 2012 12:39. Posts 1279

and what kind of retarded poll is that? please post more chickin, your personality is intriguing, to say the least

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TalentedTom    Canada. Jul 23 2012 13:21. Posts 20070


  On July 21 2012 02:16 casinocasino wrote:
they should just take all those facing the death penalty and throw them off a plane



or spend 1-2 million a head executing them... hmm?

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Stat.Quo   Somalia. Jul 23 2012 13:40. Posts 1230

what was that stone cold steve austin movie on the island where only 1 lives??? Collateral or something like that, now that would be a sick idea for death row dudes, hell guys, when I become prez of Somalia in the next 15-20 years, I might introduce that, it'll be Somalia's first gambling website lool


FarmMylife   Canada. Jul 23 2012 15:01. Posts 111

I dont really understand the body armor and riot gear if your just gonna surrender to the police anyways. The USA should really look at changing its gun laws. What do you really need to be able to by a fully auto AR-15 or AK47 even a hand gun. I think ppl should have the right to bear arms. But like they didnt have RPG's AK47 and AR-15s when they wrote that law and who knows maybe they were actually talking about bear arms. This whole even would have never had happened if they USA didnt have retarded laws and policy.

Besides Bear Arms are fucking awesome everyone should have access to bear arms


Luhos   United States. Jul 23 2012 15:39. Posts 57

Its not as if anyone can own fully automatic weapons legally, you need to have a certain license and be living in a state in which its legal. For example, in Illinois its illegal to even own a fully automatic weapon, where in Missouri its legal with the proper license. In cases such as these, the shooter almost never has fully automatic weapons. From what I've heard his weapons were semi-auto.

If you want to argue about tightening up the gun laws, I'm sure you can make valid arguments. However, its not as if people are walking down the street with fully auto weapons, its VERY rare to even know someone that owns one.


Rapoza   Brasil. Jul 23 2012 16:57. Posts 1612

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Jelle   Belgium. Jul 23 2012 17:17. Posts 3476

I wonder what pushed this person so far... I don't know if gun laws are the main problem but they sure are easy to fix and would go a long way

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NewbSaibot   United States. Jul 23 2012 17:44. Posts 4952


  On July 23 2012 14:01 FarmMylife wrote:
I dont really understand the body armor and riot gear if your just gonna surrender to the police anyways.

Supposedly the kid is some sort of quasi-genius. I think a lot of this might be some sort of setup for an insanity defense. Kill a bunch of people, then inexplicably surrender without resisting, boobytrap your house but then tell them where all the traps are, dye your hair orange, show up to court and act like a fucking retard etc. The kid studied neuroscience, he's probably read all about psychology and behavioral mannerisms. It's all probably some elaborate show to represent a textbook case of insanity.

Although trying to kill 200 people does kinda make you insane.....

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taco   Iceland. Jul 23 2012 18:26. Posts 1793


  On July 23 2012 15:57 Rapoza wrote:
Fully automatic sucks balls. As far as i know this shit isnt used even in the army. Not enough ammo(gotta reload every time the trigger is pressed).



Lolwut no you don't need to do it every time the trigger is pressed.


impact69   Mexico. Jul 23 2012 19:01. Posts 307




Released only days before the shooting, Lil Wayne’s video “My Homies Still” features him and his boys sitting in a movie theater full of skeletons. Aside from this scarily prophetic scene, the video features many dismembered dummies, a symbol associated with Mind Control.


dogmeat   Czech Republic. Jul 23 2012 19:08. Posts 6374


  On July 23 2012 18:01 impact69 wrote:



Released only days before the shooting, Lil Wayne’s video “My Homies Still” features him and his boys sitting in a movie theater full of skeletons. Aside from this scarily prophetic scene, the video features many dismembered dummies, a symbol associated with Mind Control.


wtf am i listening to?


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qwerty67890   New Zealand. Jul 26 2012 08:44. Posts 14026

Id rather go to the cinema with James Holmes than with Lil Wayne and his homies


brambolius   Netherlands. Jul 26 2012 11:32. Posts 1708

the orange hair = postal guy obv.

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2c0ntent   Egypt. Jul 26 2012 15:59. Posts 1387


  On July 21 2012 07:23 waga wrote:
Monsters have to look like monsters.
The world would be too scary if serial killers look like an average joe !!!

There is nothing wrong with his face , stop being pussies.



yep

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Zep   United States. Jul 26 2012 16:32. Posts 2292

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qwerty67890   New Zealand. Jul 27 2012 03:56. Posts 14026

number of illegal drugs ive seen in my lifetime: loads
number of illegal firearms ive seen: none


pluzich   . Jul 27 2012 08:55. Posts 828

Owning guns is OK.

People who buy weapons should be checked.

Automatic weapons/100-round magazines should either be illegal or should be given after strict checkups.

And yes, that WILL stop the majority of massacres (or lessen the number of killed drastically) and will make 0 difference for people who want guns for hunting and personal/home safety.


waga   United Kingdom. Jul 27 2012 09:23. Posts 2375

I'd love to see some numbers...
How many persons died by accident (childs playing with guns etc)
and how many lives were saved because someone had a gun in his house.

It's not the farwest anymore you know ...
your life is not in danger because you don't own a gun ...
bleh ... mentality will not change anyway ... why I bother ...


sniderstyle   United States. Jul 27 2012 10:12. Posts 2046

Isn't hunting easy enough with a rifle? Where's the sport in using automatic weaponry for hunting.

The general population doesn't need assault rilfes, leave that for the miliatary
I can't believe people get their panties in a bunch about te rights of civiliians to have deadly and mass killing weapons. tanks are illegal to own, why can't assault rifles.

It's easy to buy pot
It's not eaasy to buy illegal firearms

a 24 old white kid from aurora colorodo would probably have a tough time finding a guy who sells illegal guns

if this lunatic only had a pistol or a shotgun, 70 people wouldn't have been shot.

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FarmMylife   Canada. Jul 27 2012 11:10. Posts 111

Obviously making a law that Guns are illegal to own won't change the fact that people that really want to obtain a gun will eventually get one. But it does make it that much harder to find them. Canada has a Gun Registry where everyone has to go through a bunch of shit to be able to own a gun it hasn't stopped criminals from being able to obtain guns, but I don't know many 24yr old College Students in Vancouver that would have the connections to get a gun illegally.


Bejamin1   Canada. Jul 27 2012 11:28. Posts 7042

Gun laws would probably be quite ineffective at reducing this type of gun violence. A person who's been driven this far over the edge is likely to get his weapons regardless. However it is correct to suggest it would be harder for them to do so and a bit more likely for them to get caught. Anything that makes it harder probably isn't a bad thing.

In general gun control laws reduce gun violence because weapons escalate already tense situations. It is statistically proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that carrying a weapon makes you more likely to be hurt as opposed to not having one. The illusion that they make you safer - is just that. People get tense and emotional, someone pulls a weapon and it escalates the situation x1000. If the other person also carries a weapon "for protection" now you have a potential shoot-out. Canadian boarder guards don't carry weapons for that reason. Police in Britain same thing. Possessing a weapon only escalates the potential for serious violence and doesn't make anyone safer. There are times when weapons are going to be necessary but reducing them as much as possible greatly reduces the amount of gun violence.

It's not to say a guy like this couldn't still get his weapons. He'd probably find away. Someone determined to do so will probably succeed eventually. It's just to say he'll be more likely to get caught, he'll have more trouble doing so, and other types of gun violence can be reduced with better laws.

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waga   United Kingdom. Jul 27 2012 11:35. Posts 2375


  On July 27 2012 10:28 Bejamin1 wrote:
Gun laws would probably be quite ineffective at reducing this type of gun violence. A person who's been driven this far over the edge is likely to get his weapons regardless. However it is correct to suggest it would be harder for them to do so and a bit more likely for them to get caught. Anything that makes it harder probably isn't a bad thing.

In general gun control laws reduce gun violence because weapons escalate already tense situations. It is statistically proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that carrying a weapon makes you more likely to be hurt as opposed to not having one. The illusion that they make you safer - is just that. People get tense and emotional, someone pulls a weapon and it escalates the situation x1000. If the other person also carries a weapon "for protection" now you have a potential shoot-out. Canadian boarder guards don't carry weapons for that reason. Police in Britain same thing. Possessing a weapon only escalates the potential for serious violence and doesn't make anyone safer. There are times when weapons are going to be necessary but reducing them as much as possible greatly reduces the amount of gun violence.

It's not to say a guy like this couldn't still get his weapons. He'd probably find away. Someone determined to do so will probably succeed eventually. It's just to say he'll be more likely to get caught, he'll have more trouble doing so, and other types of gun violence can be reduced with better laws.



really good post


whamm!   Albania. Jul 27 2012 11:55. Posts 11625

because of the access to assault rifles crazy kids now are killing masses of people instead of doing it the old fashioned way and shooting themselves in the head.
this wont end until some gun control laws are passed. how many high powered guns does an ordinary citizen need anyway?


Achoo   Canada. Jul 27 2012 14:17. Posts 1454


  On July 27 2012 10:28 Bejamin1 wrote:
Gun laws would probably be quite ineffective at reducing this type of gun violence. A person who's been driven this far over the edge is likely to get his weapons regardless. However it is correct to suggest it would be harder for them to do so and a bit more likely for them to get caught. Anything that makes it harder probably isn't a bad thing.

In general gun control laws reduce gun violence because weapons escalate already tense situations. It is statistically proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that carrying a weapon makes you more likely to be hurt as opposed to not having one. The illusion that they make you safer - is just that. People get tense and emotional, someone pulls a weapon and it escalates the situation x1000. If the other person also carries a weapon "for protection" now you have a potential shoot-out. Canadian boarder guards don't carry weapons for that reason. Police in Britain same thing. Possessing a weapon only escalates the potential for serious violence and doesn't make anyone safer. There are times when weapons are going to be necessary but reducing them as much as possible greatly reduces the amount of gun violence.

It's not to say a guy like this couldn't still get his weapons. He'd probably find away. Someone determined to do so will probably succeed eventually. It's just to say he'll be more likely to get caught, he'll have more trouble doing so, and other types of gun violence can be reduced with better laws.



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brambolius   Netherlands. Jul 28 2012 12:03. Posts 1708


  On July 27 2012 10:55 whamm! wrote:
because of the access to assault rifles crazy kids now are killing masses of people instead of doing it the old fashioned way and shooting themselves in the head.



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