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Deadlift   . Jul 19 2012 11:25. Posts 98

For the hand below in the super micro stakes should I assume I am beat most of the time?

If I should fold my hand, what hands should I consider calling with? Overpairs? 2 pair? Sets only?

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sunnysky7   . Jul 19 2012 22:06. Posts 1549

if villain 3bet like a maniac,lets say >10% i dont mind always calling down here
villain's range should be wide enough to make long term call profitable


waga   United Kingdom. Jul 19 2012 22:27. Posts 2375

I have no fucking idea what to do lol
minraise preflop followed by a 650% overbet flop :D

I probably laugh and call just because " lolwat?" but that may be terrible
as sunnysky7 I think it depends a lot of his %3bet.

I would not be surprised to see 9T TJ 99 TT AK but also AA KK QQ
so it depends if this idiot can have 9T TJ 99 TT I guess , but wtf? :D


waga   United Kingdom. Jul 19 2012 22:36. Posts 2375

oh and to answer your question on this board I call AJ, JT,89,79,7T, 2pair ,set , and obviously straight
89 79 7T , is probablt slightly -EV , but I'm curious ^^
(you can't have overpair , please 4bet QQ+ )

 Last edit: 19/07/2012 22:39

roparadisco   Canada. Jul 19 2012 23:34. Posts 31

I think the same thing as sunnysky but however in this hand, I think it'd be not that profitable of a call long term. Sure we can convince ourselves that he can do this with worst than us however, for that over shove and preflop action, I don't consider calling here. The min 3bt is sign of something strong usually at these stakes...

Donk fishtard can't play an overpair so he shoves like this on a lower flop, I'm sure you've seen it before.

Unless a specific read, I'd fold and wait for a better spot. Not that much in pot, lots of hands we are far behind. Too much unknown for it to be +EV imo.

My 2 c.


roparadisco   Canada. Jul 19 2012 23:35. Posts 31

Also, to answer OP, in this spot, to call that over shove, bottomo of my calling range is TPTK (if i have a read on villain).

If not, the min I call with is 2 pairs.


Tensai176   Canada. Jul 20 2012 01:02. Posts 1018

LOL I think I call


Tensai176   Canada. Jul 20 2012 01:02. Posts 1018

and see QQ or AA a shit-ton of the time


4TM   United States. Jul 20 2012 01:06. Posts 712

I probably fold. This line seems like retardedly played KK/AA


Rapoza   Brasil. Jul 20 2012 01:08. Posts 1612

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Pouncer Style 4 the win 

idonklife   Sweden. Jul 20 2012 02:55. Posts 182

you have to call but you can also fold


locoo   Peru. Jul 20 2012 03:47. Posts 4566

I'd fold this time unless he have done this before, you can't really have an overpair so I would call with 2 pair+

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HeRoS)eNGagE   Canada. Jul 20 2012 11:54. Posts 10896

call if uve seen him do that before,
flip a coin if you havent
;o


hording   Sweden. Jul 20 2012 12:14. Posts 474

easy fold imo? with no reads.. why double him up when he shows QQ / AA 2p here

easy call if we've seen badaggro-moves before from him obv

also, call with 2p+ (things that beat AA/QQ basically)

 Last edit: 20/07/2012 12:15

goose58   United States. Jul 20 2012 16:14. Posts 871

Fold, mini-3bet at low stakes is AA-KK 90% of the time vs an unknown.

If someone is constantly putting their stack in with nothing, just wait for a good enough hand to call.


TalentedTom    Canada. Jul 21 2012 17:28. Posts 20070

this is a 100% snap call

I think anything else is kinda bad

Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light not our darkness that most frightens us and as we let our own lights shine we unconsciously give other people permision to do the same 

Deadlift   . Jul 21 2012 21:29. Posts 98


  On July 21 2012 16:28 TalentedTom wrote:
this is a 100% snap call

I think anything else is kinda bad



Is the logic here that if he's going to make such an absurd bet he could do it with basically any hand?


asdf2000   United States. Jul 21 2012 22:46. Posts 7710

we would call why exactly? are we just praying his range goes wider than 99 ?

Grindin so hard, Im smashin pussies left and right. 

TalentedTom    Canada. Jul 22 2012 00:18. Posts 20070


  On July 21 2012 20:29 Deadlift wrote:
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Is the logic here that if he's going to make such an absurd bet he could do it with basically any hand?


the logic here is that there is no logic, we have the top of our range vs opponents who are clicking buttons. Trying to put irrational players on hands is a nightmare, the best approach is to just play your equity against them

Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light not our darkness that most frightens us and as we let our own lights shine we unconsciously give other people permision to do the same 

TalentedTom    Canada. Jul 22 2012 00:19. Posts 20070

rapoza pretty much nailed it with his example - click call and see what happens

Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light not our darkness that most frightens us and as we let our own lights shine we unconsciously give other people permision to do the same 

edzwoo   United States. Jul 22 2012 14:43. Posts 5911

thread title made me think of starcraft


Minsk   United States. Jul 26 2012 04:04. Posts 1558

probably fold...they have to be crazier than average fish to call i think


 



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