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Deadlift   . Jul 19 2012 10:25. Posts 98 | | |
For the hand below in the super micro stakes should I assume I am beat most of the time?
If I should fold my hand, what hands should I consider calling with? Overpairs? 2 pair? Sets only?
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sunnysky7   . Jul 19 2012 21:06. Posts 1543 | | |
if villain 3bet like a maniac,lets say >10% i dont mind always calling down here
villain's range should be wide enough to make long term call profitable |
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waga   Malta. Jul 19 2012 21:36. Posts 1960 | | |
oh and to answer your question on this board I call AJ, JT,89,79,7T, 2pair ,set , and obviously straight
89 79 7T , is probablt slightly -EV , but I'm curious ^^
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I think the same thing as sunnysky but however in this hand, I think it'd be not that profitable of a call long term. Sure we can convince ourselves that he can do this with worst than us however, for that over shove and preflop action, I don't consider calling here. The min 3bt is sign of something strong usually at these stakes...
Donk fishtard can't play an overpair so he shoves like this on a lower flop, I'm sure you've seen it before.
Unless a specific read, I'd fold and wait for a better spot. Not that much in pot, lots of hands we are far behind. Too much unknown for it to be +EV imo.
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Also, to answer OP, in this spot, to call that over shove, bottomo of my calling range is TPTK (if i have a read on villain).
If not, the min I call with is 2 pairs. |
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Tensai176   Canada. Jul 20 2012 00:02. Posts 921 | | | |
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Tensai176   Canada. Jul 20 2012 00:02. Posts 921 | | |
and see QQ or AA a shit-ton of the time |
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4TM   United States. Jul 20 2012 00:06. Posts 378 | | |
I probably fold. This line seems like retardedly played KK/AA |
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Rapoza   Brasil. Jul 20 2012 00:08. Posts 1130 | | | |
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idonklife   Sweden. Jul 20 2012 01:55. Posts 182 | | |
you have to call but you can also fold |
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locoo   Peru. Jul 20 2012 02:47. Posts 4203 | | |
I'd fold this time unless he have done this before, you can't really have an overpair so I would call with 2 pair+ |
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call if uve seen him do that before,
flip a coin if you havent
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hording   Sweden. Jul 20 2012 11:14. Posts 459 | | |
easy fold imo? with no reads.. why double him up when he shows QQ / AA 2p here
easy call if we've seen badaggro-moves before from him obv
also, call with 2p+ (things that beat AA/QQ basically) |
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goose58   United States. Jul 20 2012 15:14. Posts 463 | | |
Fold, mini-3bet at low stakes is AA-KK 90% of the time vs an unknown.
If someone is constantly putting their stack in with nothing, just wait for a good enough hand to call. |
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TalentedTom   Canada. Jul 21 2012 16:28. Posts 18671 | | |
this is a 100% snap call
I think anything else is kinda bad |
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Deadlift   . Jul 21 2012 20:29. Posts 98 | | |
| | On July 21 2012 16:28 TalentedTom wrote:
this is a 100% snap call
I think anything else is kinda bad |
Is the logic here that if he's going to make such an absurd bet he could do it with basically any hand? |
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asdf2000   United States. Jul 21 2012 21:46. Posts 7293 | | |
we would call why exactly? are we just praying his range goes wider than 99 ? |
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TalentedTom   Canada. Jul 21 2012 23:18. Posts 18671 | | |
| | On July 21 2012 20:29 Deadlift wrote:
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On July 21 2012 16:28 TalentedTom wrote:
this is a 100% snap call
I think anything else is kinda bad |
Is the logic here that if he's going to make such an absurd bet he could do it with basically any hand?
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the logic here is that there is no logic, we have the top of our range vs opponents who are clicking buttons. Trying to put irrational players on hands is a nightmare, the best approach is to just play your equity against them |
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TalentedTom   Canada. Jul 21 2012 23:19. Posts 18671 | | |
rapoza pretty much nailed it with his example - click call and see what happens |
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